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KKW,

You did not get the point of this. Point was that same light can be done on different way.

This is ebay link is very popular light redone. But even you did not recognized it. Smile

And you have it at home Smile

I don’t think I missed your point, but that we’re trying to focus on different points. (though misunderstanding is very possible in short text based communication)

Unless the “redone” light is made by Brinyte it’s a moot point, because that’s who you’re contacting (we all know how common similar looking lights from different manufacturers is). If it is done by Brinyte, perhaps more patience is required before you get a response, I bet around Christmas and New Years is a bad time to expect quick communication.

I’m still suspecting 50pcs isn’t enough to get them to change the design at all though, based on their reluctance to sell hosts as part of the group buy. Had they been willing to sell hosts at $20 each I would have bought 30 hosts instead of 20 lights and 20 bare pills. I try not to complain about it, because I realize I have to deal with their business model, not what I wish it was.

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Had no probs with communication from Brinyte. And I’ve got two batches of lights from them. I ordered two B158’s as test samples, and they kindly put my own logo on the lights, even for just two.

Back onto the topic of modding, I’m still waiting for my pills from Gearbest. Delivery seems slow, even for one of these sorts of places. Sad

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Had no probs with communication from Brinyte. And I’ve got two batches of lights from them. I ordered two B158’s as test samples, and they kindly put my own logo on the lights, even for just two.

Back onto the topic of modding, I’m still waiting for my pills from Gearbest. Delivery seems slow, even for one of these sorts of places. Sad

I’m waiting on mine too, and I ordered them just a few days after they went live.

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Shipped on 6/12/15 according to the email. DX and Fasttech are normally about 14 days….

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Tom E wrote:

Ahh - don't forget me? Post #68? Pretty please? Innocent

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5A LGHG2, 4.6 NCR PF, Djozz fet driver, XPG2 S4 2B, everything bypassed.

4.1-ish A on a Samsung 30Q fresh from charger (also djozz fet driver).

I made a video to show that measuring the way I do (voltage measurement over a 0.01 Ohm sense resistor) gives some variation, when the (fat solide copper) wires are pushed down well, it is between 4.1 and 4.2A:

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I use UNI-T UT210E clamp meter and very thick gage wire. Maybe it has higher readings than your dmm? If so that would mean that it draws about 4.1 as with your cell (HG2 and 30Q are almost same in performance), and about 3.6A with panasonic NCR PF... But I don't really think it reads wrong...

KKW,

I just wanted that you recognize that flashlight and you did not managed. It is UF 1504 ODM order.

BTW I got instant response from Brinyte (with email Mnhalen gave).

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BTW I got instant response from Brinyte (with email Mnhalen gave).

I figured you would. As far as my communications with them go, brinyte has probably the nicest customer service rep I’ve ever dealt with. No exaggeration at all.

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I just received mine and i was quite amazed to see that the centering ring for the xml-2 led is the same Convoy uses in their flashlights, although it seems a bit thinner at the bottom, anyways this is a good thing because i have XPL centering rings from Simon on the way so they would help focusing that xpg-2 that is going in the B158.

Black is from B158, white is from Convoy.

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Has anybody received some of the new XP-L centering rings to confirm they fit on the current C8 reflectors?

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JamesB wrote:
5 minutes mod to my B158.

Changed the led for a XP-L hi 16mm noctigon from intl-outdoor, removed the driver and connected the led directly from the contact plate for direct drive as i only needed max output.

I also removed the Klingon protrusions on the body with a lathe since i don’t intend to mount the B158 to anything, lost 26 grammes in the process and the light is much nicer to hold.

!http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/152841B158.jpg!

I prefer them for better heat sinking.

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Ok - you guys put me to shame because I'm still ol'school with a DMM setup w/thick wires, measuring amps across the cell and end of battery tube Smile.

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I will do measurement again and will take pics. It really jumps high but it settles at lower A after 2-3 seconds. I will show result again when I fill up NCR PF.

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luminarium iaculator wrote:

I use UNI-T UT210E clamp meter and very thick gage wire. Maybe it has higher readings than your dmm? If so that would mean that it draws about 4.1 as with your cell (HG2 and 30Q are almost same in performance), and about 3.6A with panasonic NCR PF... But I don't really think it reads wrong...

I'm not too happy with the current jumping up and down in my measurement above, with the thick copper wires I do not get a good enough contact for a stable current.

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Yes. I measured again with uni-t ut210E clamp meter.

LG HG2 (brown), Panasonic ncr PF (green). Both charged to 4.25V.

This clamp meter has a bit of jump than it settles on real readings. Silicone 12AWG high strand wire used with tinned ends(maybe I should leave exposed wire for better contact?)

So HG2 has 4.4A while NCR PF has 3.9A readings.

I will mention that this was taken with savage finger press on battery - and exposed aluminum at the end of flashlight tube. Since this meter has hold function my wife pressed it Smile

Also if you will gently press you will get even lower readings than that. Interesting... Gentle press low A readings, savage press higher readings.

Maybe all that means that solid + - contact(firmly pressed battery inside flashlight) also has some influence on current draw? I don't know.

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Maybe all that means that solid + – contact(firmly pressed battery inside flashlight) also has some influence on current draw? I don’t know.

This stands to reason since contact area and total number of contact points will definitely affect the contact resistance. I would think that well mated surfaces would be more influential than just pressure alone.

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There's a couple of factors from my experiences. For my test leads that simply have solder blobs at the end, I refresh the solder on occasion and get higher amps. I've also found NO-OX-ID treatment on the solder blobs will sometimes bump readings, or stabilize the readings. In addition, sometimes a heavy wire jumper from batt- to the body tube gets lower lumens measurements than a fully bypassed tailcap assembled on the light. So, there are issues in contact surfaces.

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Heat the end of your jumper till the solder melts, then mash it flat quickly with a screwdriver blade. Gives you a lot more strands in contact with the flat battery end and hopefully more current flow. Not sure what to do with the body end as each light will be a bit different.

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Brinyte has an excellent costumer support as Mhanlen said... 

Brinyte do accept OEM ODM orders. Moq for odm is 50 pcs.

So if any of you guys wants something in B158 style but with your logo or some other idea here is your chance to order it.

They are very serious company for doing small or serious business.

Don't ask me what and how I managed to deal. If you want to place your own oem or odm order with them I strongly suggest contact them on  this email

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luminarium iaculator wrote:

Brinyte has an excellent costumer support as Mhanlen said… 

Brinyte do accept OEM ODM orders. Moq for odm is 50 pcs.

So if any of you guys wants something in B158 style but with your logo or some other idea here is your chance to order it.

They are very serious company for doing small or serious business.

Don’t ask me what and how I managed to deal. If you want to place your own oem or odm order with them I strongly suggest contact them on  this email

I told ya! I wasn’t exaggerating when I said they have the nicest customer service rep I’ve ever dealt with. I’m talking USA too. They sent me a personalized Christmas email when it had been more than a month than I had talked to anyone there. I guess the key is having the right email address. If anyone ever wanted the email just shoot me a PM and I’ll pass it along.

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Yes. The best and most prompt costumer service ever Smile

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I finally started on my B158 last night. I’m a big fan so far. I did a gas-dedomed XP-G2 S2 1D from FT and the tint came out really nice. Also a FET+1 driver of course. Just by the unscientific measurement of pointing both hotspots at a wall from 15ft and comparing, the throw seems quite a bit better than my Jacob A60 with the same specs. That’s before it’s even done. I still have to install the lighted tailcap and bypass the tail spring, center the emitter (it’s pretty far off center right now), and paint the pill-top black to cut down some of the ugly reflections. I’ll have to measure amps after the Clamp Meter GB comes through.

Did everyone else use the white plastic centering ring or just get rid of it? I am using it for now, just to hold the emitter down.

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pilotdog68 wrote:
I finally started on my B158 last night. I’m a big fan so far. I did a gas-dedomed XP-G2 S2 1D from FT and the tint came out really nice. Also a FET+1 driver of course. Just by the unscientific measurement of pointing both hotspots at a wall from 15ft and comparing, the throw seems quite a bit better than my Jacob A60 with the same specs. That’s before it’s even done. I still have to install the lighted tailcap and bypass the tail spring, center the emitter (it’s pretty far off center right now), and paint the pill-top black to cut down some of the ugly reflections. I’ll have to measure amps after the Clamp Meter GB comes through.

Did everyone else use the white plastic centering ring or just get rid of it? I am using it for now, just to hold the emitter down.

I’m using it. But I’m a mod-lite type guy, so my opinion only goes so far on this matter.

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I also use white centering ring off course. It is far easier to put a dab of artic silver under led mcpcb than to solder to pill and then you see it is a just bit off center. No difference in performance in my book and I tried both.

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Yeah I don’t like semi/permanent thermal glues either, I normally use Ceramique II. I just didn’t know if that ring was causing some of the beam “blemishes” since it sticks up above the emitter.

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pilotdog68 wrote:
beam "blemishes"

Just don't white wall it Smile Use it.

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luminarium iaculator wrote:

pilotdog68 wrote:
beam "blemishes"

Just don't white wall it Smile Use it.

Nah, once it starts being useful, I'm out! Tongue Out

I have soldered the board to the pill btw. Before heating, I used two pieces of a match between board and side of the pill to keep the board centered while the solder melted.

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luminarium iaculator wrote:

pilotdog68 wrote:
beam “blemishes”

Just don’t white wall it Smile Use it.

The nasty beam ring artefacts when fully zoomed annoy me a LOT in real life frequent use, i’ll have to emulate Djozz’s black paint mod

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My lights get used to “show off” indoors more than anything (I live in a city apartment, and don’t get out as much as I would like to) and ugly beams don’t impress Wink

When I am actually outside with them, it doesn’t matter nearly as much.

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Suit yourself guys. I have mirror foil on the order. I plan to put it around emitter and in combination with precolimator lenses I plan to get spill effect and pump bit more lumens. As for the black paint: once when even tiny particle of paint gets on led burnout follows Smile Maybe that will not happen to you... Maybe it will happen to lets say your buyer if you are selling some.

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luminarium iaculator wrote:
As for the black paint: once when even tiny particle of paint gets on led burnout follows Smile Maybe that will not happen to you… Maybe it will happen to lets say your buyer if you are selling some.

Nah I don’t usually sell. I’ll cover the emitter with a straw to protect it, but worst case scenario I have to replace a $2 LED

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