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And you need spacers. Simon sells those.

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Thanks JasonWW and Jack
I should have said this but I will try a few different 18650s in mine but it’s just that I don’t have those do da’s but tomorrow I’ll dig around the shed for something that fits , and report back

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I have been running my L6 exclusively on 18650 with printed battery sleeve/adapter, i couldn’t be bother to buy additional 26650 so i just 18650 that i have plenty but if runtime is important you should get 26650 as they are bigger in capacity.

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So my question is can either of these lights run with 2 18650s because I know he has Panasonic NCR18650Bs (protected) ?

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I am getting my convoy l6 modded with xhp70.2 FET driver.. should I use shockli or liitokala?

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Shockli might be too fat?

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I’m running Shockli 5500 in any of my 3 L6’s, 1 orig black or 2 clears. Little close fit in one of the clears but still works. You’ll need a solder blob or magnets.

On L6 with TA driver I’m getting 4800 lux @ 5 meter for approx 120,000 cd. (4.15v)

Sorry don’t have liitokala to compare against. But definitely an upgrade to Keeppower Protected.

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On L6 with TA driver I’m getting 4800 lux @ 5 meter for approx 120,000 cd. (4.15v)

Is this with SMO or OP reflector?
XHP70 or XHP70.2?
Dome on or sliced off?

I think a better way to compare the batteries would be to measure the amp draw at the tail cap.

What is the Shokli length?

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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I have 26650 series connector coming from the jaxman.. I forget to mention that.

According from the blf, liitokala battery works best with the FET driver..

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Newlumen wrote:
I have 26650 series connector coming from the jaxman.. I forget to mention that.

Add some wire bypasses so you don’t melt the springs.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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JasonWW wrote:
Etex wrote:
I On L6 with TA driver I’m getting 4800 lux @ 5 meter for approx 120,000 cd. (4.15v)

What is the Shokli length?

Shockli 5500 mAh
Diameter: 26.7mm
Height: 65.3mm

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Stock emitter with op reflector was just comparing to my stock driver w KP batteries.

Unfortunately, my inferior amp meter is not good to yeild meaningful results.

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Look at the cells, the Shockli says max current 20A, pulse 30A… the LiitoKala’s say 50A. Should tell the story right there.

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DB Custom wrote:
Look at the cells, the Shockli says max current 20A, pulse 30A… the LiitoKala’s say 50A. Should tell the story right there.

Dale, you know more than anyone that you can rarely go by what the wrappers say. If we did, we’d have 6,000 mah 18650 cells. Lol

It seems like the most you can get from the L6, fet, 70.2 combo is about 17 to 18 amps. That’s within range of both batteries.

Of course, the blue liitokala are tried and true. I think the black ones are just as good from the reviews I read. Have the Shockli been tested? I’d like to know more about them.

Who knows, if the Shokli turn out to have more internal resistance and only pull, let’s say 14 amps, they still might be a good choice. The 17.3 amps I’m getting are really up there and it gets hot really fast. I only use full power on very rare ocassions. I might get me a pair of the Shockli just to tame it a little. Know what I mean?

(The 14 amps was just hypothetical. I don’t know anything about that cell).

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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I don’t know about the “rarely” part, but yeah I do know a few things… the Shockli are a rewrapped Windyfire from what I can gather. I also know that you have to start somewhere, and you can’t discount every cells wrapper lingo just because there have been “miscue’s” in the past. I know everyone shuns Trustfire cells, but their 6,000 mAh 32650 is the best in the class. So perhaps common knowledge isn’t an across-the-board kind of thing?

I have both the sky blue LiitoKala and the new black ones, and I have an L6 with XHP-70.2 and FET driver… making 9,280.5 lumens at 18.16A on the new black LiitoKala cell. The blue ones do 16.48A for 9108 lumens. Surprising, yes?

FWIW, I’ve seen more than one light tested where one name brand cell gave higher amperage, while another name brand cell bests it in lumens output while having less current draw. So it’s not all about the exact numbers.

I also know that it really doesn’t make much difference in the end when you’re pulling 3.6C on the cells (3.6 x the capacity of the cell), the output will drop rapidly as the cells take the hit so the absolute max lumens simply won’t last long enough to really add it all up.

Edit: Another quirky little FWIW…. the Efest 20700 dark metallic purple cell yields 18.71A and 9,591 lumens in this light.

Dale

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Thanks db, then I will use black liitokala on the convoy l6. Shockli will go to the trustfire tr j20… Both modded lights are coming soon to me.

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Anyone got experience with these?

https://www.nkon.nl/rechargeable/26650/enercig-26650-5200mah-flat-top-ba...
Edit, international link might be more useful instead of Dutch Wink

https://eu.nkon.nl/rechargeable/26650/enercig-26650-5200mah-flat-top-bat...

My L6 arrived this week Smile

Since the Black and gold Liitokala 26650’s still didnt arrive, and some laptop pulls do the job, but i dont trust my current measurements (20 cm standard hirschmann measuring wire, gave 2,6 A and dropped quickly to 2,4 and lower)

I thought, lets try these, since the efest is out of stock, and they can deliver fast to me

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DB Custom wrote:
I don’t know about the “rarely” part, but yeah I do know a few things… the Shockli are a rewrapped Windyfire from what I can gather. I also know that you have to start somewhere, and you can’t discount every cells wrapper lingo just because there have been “miscue’s” in the past. I know everyone shuns Trustfire cells, but their 6,000 mAh 32650 is the best in the class. So perhaps common knowledge isn’t an across-the-board kind of thing?

I have both the sky blue LiitoKala and the new black ones, and I have an L6 with XHP-70.2 and FET driver… making 9,280.5 lumens at 18.16A on the new black LiitoKala cell. The blue ones do 16.48A for 9108 lumens. Surprising, yes?

FWIW, I’ve seen more than one light tested where one name brand cell gave higher amperage, while another name brand cell bests it in lumens output while having less current draw. So it’s not all about the exact numbers.

I also know that it really doesn’t make much difference in the end when you’re pulling 3.6C on the cells (3.6 x the capacity of the cell), the output will drop rapidly as the cells take the hit so the absolute max lumens simply won’t last long enough to really add it all up.

Edit: Another quirky little FWIW…. the Efest 20700 dark metallic purple cell yields 18.71A and 9,591 lumens in this light.


I suppose certain cells can draw the same amps, but do so with different levels of voltage sag. That 20700 you mention probably does 18.7 amps, but at a higher voltage so that’s why you see the higher lumen output.

This is a variable I had not thought of. This new dimension is very interesting.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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JasonWW in case you didn’t see this HKJ tests for Shockli

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/53998

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Etex wrote:
JasonWW in case you didn’t see this HKJ tests for Shockli

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/53998


Thanks.

Very nice performance. I wonder what kind of amp draw you’d get from the Shockli in an L6 with a fet driver with the 70.2?

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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Hi all,

Has anyone done a direct comparison type test of Convoys copper mcpcbs vs like sinkpad or noctigon? They seem very good, I’m just wandering if there is anything to be gained from one board to another. I see here in this pic there is some kind of a mask over the center pad…
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/CREE-XLAMP-XHP70-N4-1C/330416_3...

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We had some really heavy fog roll in Saturday night. Heavy fog looks amazing in the beam of a high powered light. Cool
I set my L6 on the patio and took a few pictures. You could see the water vapor swirling in the air like a micro-snowstorm.

I also had my Q8 prototype near the door so that one had to come out to play too.

Fun in the fog. Smile

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Very nice pictures j-dub! Thumbs Up

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anyone know where to get a translucent tailcap for Convoy L6?

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rizky_p wrote:
anyone know where to get a translucent tailcap for Convoy L6?

Simon of course. He has the side switch cover as well.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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Thanks, i will ask Simon.

JasonWW wrote:
rizky_p wrote:
anyone know where to get a translucent tailcap for Convoy L6?
Simon of course. He has the side switch cover as well.
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Or banggood or kaidomain. you need to look for 16mm diameter.

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Or banggood or kaidomain. you need to look for 16mm diameter.

thanks.

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I think Simon is the only one with the translucent side switch if you wanted that.

He will give you a couple for free, just pay for shipping. Or if you buy something from his store, he will toss them in for free. He’s a good guy.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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yeah he answered my PM earlier today, he offered me both translucent switches for convoy L6 i am going to order S2+ desert tan from him.

JasonWW wrote:
I think Simon is the only one with the translucent side switch if you wanted that.

He will give you a couple for free, just pay for shipping. Or if you buy something from his store, he will toss them in for free. He’s a good guy.

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I finally got my convoy l6 in xhp70.2.. very nice light, and heavy too..hot spot is big. The side switch is disabled.. only tail switch..

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