Convoy L6... XHP70 Beast!

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twisted raven wrote:
Is it common for the XHP70, XHP70.2 to only halfly light up on its lowest output?

Only 2 dies of my XHP70.2 are lit on the lowest mode, and noticeably dimmer looking on higher modes.

I was getting some faint flickering on the higher modes as well (fresh batteries), but have since not been able to replicate it.


It depends on the driver output at it lowest level. If it’s a very low moonlight, then some of the dies might not light up, but anything above moonlight should be all of them.

Sometimes protected cells can act funny. Both of my KeepPower protected cells did a weird flicker on the stock driver on high mode. I have a video of it. It only did it at 4v and above. Very strange. Using different batteries fixed it.

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my friend was asking for some beam shots tonight, figure I share it here too. this is my l6 @ 17A start, after 5mins it is too hot to handle, seriously!

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That’s pretty tight focus. Mine looks exsctly the same. Must be a smo reflector.

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yes it is with the smo reflector, and dome sliced xhp70.2 with no centering ring

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JasonWW wrote:
twisted raven wrote:
Is it common for the XHP70, XHP70.2 to only halfly light up on its lowest output?

Only 2 dies of my XHP70.2 are lit on the lowest mode, and noticeably dimmer looking on higher modes.

I was getting some faint flickering on the higher modes as well (fresh batteries), but have since not been able to replicate it.


It depends on the driver output at it lowest level. If it’s a very low moonlight, then some of the dies might not light up, but anything above moonlight should be all of them.

Sometimes protected cells can act funny. Both of my KeepPower protected cells did a weird flicker on the stock driver on high mode. I have a video of it. It only did it at 4v and above. Very strange. Using different batteries fixed it.

I don’t feel it’s the driver, although maybe. I noticed that the flickering is no longer an issue with the light, but I figure it doesn’t flicker now because the one half of the XHP70 .2 doesn’t light up, while before when it flickered, it was that one half of the LED going in and out.

Even if it’s 1% output or 100% output, I can see only one side of the emitter glow once I power the light off.

Will have to message Vinh about it. He accidentally gave me a tail-switch UI instead of a side-switch UI anyways.

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The dies on the xhp70.2 are wired in 2s2p. So if it has been pushed hard and run very hot it’s possible one of those little bonding wires has been damaged and is not getting good contact. That would cause 2 of the dies to not light up or be weaker.

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Quick question, would a XHP70.2 be a direct drop-in into my stock L6?

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Quick question, would a XHP70.2 be a direct drop-in into my stock L6?

Sure. Just get it on a 20mm DTP mcpcb.
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Quick question, would a XHP70.2 be a direct drop-in into my stock L6?
Sure. Just get it on a 20mm DTP mcpcb.

Thanks!

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Does Simone sell spare OP reflector for convoy L6?

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Does Simone sell spare OP reflector for convoy L6?

Not that I know of, but if you ask Simon he may be able to sell you one. You can contact him through his Aliexpress store.
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@Tangra If Simon doesn’t sell OP reflectors , send me a PM

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ok so can someone link me to some batteries on ebay that work 100% with this light?

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mortuus wrote:
ok so can someone link me to some batteries on ebay that work 100% with this light?

The problem with ebay is you never really know what your going to get. Could be legit cells or could be fakes. That’s why no one buys from ebay. Have you checked if Banggood, Gearbest or Fastech can ship cells to Sweden?
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JasonWW wrote:
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ok so can someone link me to some batteries on ebay that work 100% with this light?
The problem with ebay is you never really know what your going to get. Could be legit cells or could be fakes. That’s why no one buys from ebay. Have you checked if Banggood, Gearbest or Fastech can ship cells to Sweden?

Maybe NKON can ship to Sweden too! The prices are not the cheapest ones, but maybe it can help!

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sadly neither BG or gearbest ships those batteries to sweden anymore Sad i am so doomed lol.. i will check nkon thanks.

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twisted raven wrote:
Is it common for the XHP70, XHP70.2 to only halfly light up on its lowest output?

Only 2 dies of my XHP70.2 are lit on the lowest mode, and noticeably dimmer looking on higher modes.

I was getting some faint flickering on the higher modes as well (fresh batteries), but have since not been able to replicate it.

No, this is a common problem with these new Cree “.2” LEDs. Your’s might be a defective one. A few people had problems with the XHP50.2 when it came it.

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The_Driver wrote:
twisted raven wrote:
Is it common for the XHP70, XHP70.2 to only halfly light up on its lowest output?

Only 2 dies of my XHP70.2 are lit on the lowest mode, and noticeably dimmer looking on higher modes.

I was getting some faint flickering on the higher modes as well (fresh batteries), but have since not been able to replicate it.

No, this is a common problem with these new Cree “.2” LEDs. Your’s might be a defective one. A few people had problems with the XHP50.2 when it came it.


I have not seen this happen as like the 50.2, yet? I would try to re-flow it with a bit more solder paste, I had one 70.2 do the same thing, well almost, flickering , low out put, testing on the rock, re-flowing it took care of it. The other thing was too much heat during the re-flow the solder mask turn color ever so slightly and the 70.2 ended up dying. I re-flowed another keeping better attention during the process, all went well!

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JasonWW wrote:
mortuus wrote:
ok so can someone link me to some batteries on ebay that work 100% with this light?
The problem with ebay is you never really know what your going to get. Could be legit cells or could be fakes. That’s why no one buys from ebay. Have you checked if Banggood, Gearbest or Fastech can ship cells to Sweden?

Maybe NKON can ship to Sweden too! The prices are not the cheapest ones, but maybe it can help!

There is no maybe.
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mortuus wrote:
ok so can someone link me to some batteries on ebay that work 100% with this light?

Jaxman sells the liitokala 26650 that do wonders in the L6, just add a solder blob. Jaxman battery link

I have ordered from them and got batteies delivered to Sweden.

Edit: Holy shit i just noticed the shipping price. That have gone up by alot since i bought from them.

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Lowtech wrote:
MascaratumB wrote:
JasonWW wrote:
mortuus wrote:
ok so can someone link me to some batteries on ebay that work 100% with this light?
The problem with ebay is you never really know what your going to get. Could be legit cells or could be fakes. That’s why no one buys from ebay. Have you checked if Banggood, Gearbest or Fastech can ship cells to Sweden?

Maybe NKON can ship to Sweden too! The prices are not the cheapest ones, but maybe it can help!

There is no maybe.
They do and are relaible.

I know they are, I recently bought some batteries from them, and NKON and the batteries are reliable!
Took some days (a week, maybe) to arrive but were tracked and came well packed. The shipment is a bit pricy, though…

I normally buy my Li-Ion from an AliExpress store and so far they were reliable too (Sony US18650VTC6 and Sanyo UP14500P): https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1382210?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.5bdadf47w... .

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We were talking about high-powered 26650 protected batteries earlier. The Orbtronic 5200mah is rated for 15 amps.

Another choice would be the Imalent 4500mah 26650. It is also rated at 15 amps. I think it tests at 5000mah.

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oke have to ask again, these purple efest work for l6 ? i think i read something about most flat 26650 cant make contact….

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Efest-26550-4200mAh-Purple-LI-MN-50AMP-IMR-Battery-2-Pack/262680214558?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

its so damn hard to find batteries that fits your budget and that can ship to sweden, aliexpress and other chinese sites is a no go for me… blah…

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mortuus wrote:
oke have to ask again, these purple efest work for l6 ? i think i read something about most flat 26650 cant make contact….

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Efest-26550-4200mAh-Purple-LI-MN-50AMP-IMR-Battery-2-Pack/262680214558?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

its so damn hard to find batteries that fits your budget and that can ship to sweden, aliexpress and other chinese sites is a no go for me… blah…


After a little hunting around I found some specs on those. They show to be 26.5mm +-.2mm in diameter. Does anyone know if that is acceptable?

If you look at the pics here
https://pink-mule.com/1-x-efest-purple-imr-26650-4200mah-50a-flat-top-en

you can see that they are a raised flat top so they should make contact. If not, you can always add a solder blob.

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yes that is the question, does anyone here using those type of flat batteries without having to add this solder? im looking at nkons batteries keeppower but says they are not for flashlights so im not sure… come on simon make a new version of the l6 that takes either flat or not its too confusing what batteries will work or not. u guys must think i am an total idiot lol.

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Mtnelectronics sell unprotected shockli 26650 button top.

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yes that is the question, does anyone here using those type of flat batteries without having to add this solder?

I use the flat top Liitokala 26650s the “naughty” way with a button magnet and nylon washer between the batteries.

Unless the drivers don’t have a spring anymore (too lazy to look back through the thread to look) the flat top has no problem connecting at the top to the driver.

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