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Has Simon ever thought about offering a diffusor for the light? Just a simple one to be stuck on the head. I think this would be a very practical addition.

That seems bizarre to me. What purpose would it serve?

I guess you could add diffusion film over the lens.


Plenty of requirements that need a diffuser, for area lighting. I’ve been calling for a diffuser for the L6 for ages. That request is now redundant as I have a diffuser on the Q8.
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Don’t they make Isopropyl Alcohol in a round opaque white bottle? Wonder if that bottle will fit either the L6 or Q8? Hmmmm….

Edit: Pay attention at the grocery store (take your tape measure) diffusers for all your lights are sitting around on the grocers shelves waiting for you to use what’s in em… Wink

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White plastic cup could fit

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Anyone know where I can find this on sale or if it will be on sale during the 11.11 event? Trying to get this monster for my friend.

Oh and does it come with 18650 spacers? I know some of these bigger lights come with them (I’ve gotten the Thorfire S70s with spacers).

Thanks!

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GeeKeR wrote:
Anyone know where I can find this on sale or if it will be on sale during the 11.11 event? Trying to get this monster for my friend.

Oh and does it come with 18650 spacers? I know some of these bigger lights come with them (I’ve gotten the Thorfire S70s with spacers).

Thanks!

try the code “cl6gift” on gearbest, works for me on the black version.. and i dont think u want to run this light with 18650.

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Has anyone tried these Keeppower 27700 batteries in this L6?

http://www.keeppower.com.cn/products_detail.php?id=554

I’ve got older Keeppower 26650 with protection, and they quite tight. Since i have understood this new 27700 is about the same size as normal protected 26650, i think it might fit, but i’m not sure.

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Those are protected cells so they’re likely to be as much fatter as the 26650’s that you found tight. I’d venture a guess that they won’t fit the L6.

With a rated 10A continuous discharge I don’t know if they’d drive the L6 like many of us use it. A stock light, should probably be ok. You might could hone the inside of the battery tube and get a snug fit, you’d have good run time with a stock light and 5700mAh capacity.

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mortuus][quote=GeeKeR wrote:
[…] and i dont think u want to run this light with 18650.

Why not? If you get a good set of spacers (Simon sells them), the only downside as far as I can see would be less runtime.

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For those awaiting a good deal on the L6, it’s around $45 right now – not sure BG or GB
Check the various deals/coupons and codes threads.

Edit: i must have dreamed it… can’t find it anymore. Facepalm
Edit2: now i’m sure i’ve seen it. I actually wondered wether i would rather get another Q8 instead as they were about the same price – at that instant. Probably during that “black” weekend frenzyness.

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Right now on GearBest it is available for 42.51€ (roughly 50$) with FinGB30 code.

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SJT wrote:
Has anyone tried these Keeppower 27700 batteries in this L6?

http://www.keeppower.com.cn/products_detail.php?id=554

I’ve got older Keeppower 26650 with protection, and they quite tight. Since i have understood this new 27700 is about the same size as normal protected 26650, i think it might fit, but i’m not sure.

Had the clear L6 and 26650 unprotected KeepPower black listed in this thread were just right in L&W.
Just got a Black L6 today to replace the modded Clear I sold and the same KPP black are pretty tight on OD.

I really doubt those 27700 are going to fit in either direction, especially if protected.

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patmurris wrote:
For those awaiting a good deal on the L6, it’s around $45 right now – not sure BG or GB
Check the various deals/coupons and codes threads.

Edit: i must have dreamed it… can’t find it anymore. Facepalm
Edit2: now i’m sure i’ve seen it. I actually wondered wether i would rather get another Q8 instead as they were about the same price – at that instant. Probably during that “black” weekend frenzyness.

You weren’t dreaming, it was around Nov 15th. I got a CW Black one for bout $45. I was in the market for one for a while and think it is the best price I have ever seen.
It just arrived today. Will mod it soon.

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I know the recommended battery for the L6 is generally the Keeppower ICR26650 5200mAh, but looking at HKJ's test it is very easy to find better performing cells. So I'm a bit hesitating. Why the KP ICR is considered the best match? Apart from size consideration, is it only because of its protection's circuitry, making it a safer choice for 2x configuration?

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I know the recommended battery for the L6 is generally the Keeppower ICR26650 5200mAh, but looking at HKJ’s test it is very easy to find better performing cells. So I’m a bit hesitating. Why the KP ICR is considered the best match? Is it only because of its protection’s circuitry, making it a safer choice for 2x configuration?


I’m not sure where you heard that, but the recommended battery for the L6 is the Liitokala.

Maybe as far as protected cells are concerned, the top choice is the KeepPower 5200.

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It's listed in first post of this thread at least two times and it is repeated in various other forums. Does the Liitokala exists with protection?

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It’s been a long time since I read post one. The last update to it was 11 months ago. It does seem to be biased towards safety and not towards performance. For newcomers the protected cell is recommended.

Most folks here (modders) don’t run protected cells, though. They can’t, because they just don’t produce enough output.

My modded L6 pulls 17 to 18 amps with the Liitokalas for about 8,500 lumen.

It only pulls about 10 amps with the protected KeepPower 5200 for about 6,500 lumen.

That’s a big difference and clearly seen with your eyes. It’s also why almost all L6 modders use unprotected cells.

If your light is stock and you are worried about safety stuff then stick with protected. It is fine for lower powered lights. In fact, Orbtronic makes a 26650 protected cell with a 15 amp rating. I don’t know if it cuts all power at loads over 15A or just limits the load like the KeepPowers do.

Everyone using unprotected cells in series just need to follow a few safety rules. Always use a matched and married set and always check that the voltages are identical before charging.

Liitokala does not make protected cells.

I hope that helps.

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JasonWW wrote:
fneuf wrote:

I know the recommended battery for the L6 is generally the Keeppower ICR26650 5200mAh, but looking at HKJ’s test it is very easy to find better performing cells. So I’m a bit hesitating. Why the KP ICR is considered the best match? Is it only because of its protection’s circuitry, making it a safer choice for 2x configuration?


I’m not sure where you heard that, but the recommended battery for the L6 is the Liitokala.

Maybe as far as protected cells are concerned, the top choice is the KeepPower 5200.

Eh doesnt simon himself recommend to use keeppower icr? not that u must but i never heard that litokala was the main battery choice for this light and ive read almost the entire thread of this massive light. I will myself tho use efest batteries for this light once it arrives.

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I know the recommended battery for the L6 is generally the Keeppower ICR26650 5200mAh, but looking at HKJ’s test it is very easy to find better performing cells. So I’m a bit hesitating. Why the KP ICR is considered the best match? Is it only because of its protection’s circuitry, making it a safer choice for 2x configuration?


I’m not sure where you heard that, but the recommended battery for the L6 is the Liitokala.

Maybe as far as protected cells are concerned, the top choice is the KeepPower 5200.

Eh doesnt simon himself recommend to use keeppower icr? not that u must but i never heard that litokala was the main battery choice for this light and ive read almost the entire thread of this massive light. I will myself tho use efest batteries for this light once it arrives.


I guess this particular thread is mostly about the stock L6.

If you read this thread you get a very different battery choice.
L2 and L6 Modding Thread

It’s a matter of choosing what is best for your particular situation.

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This thread kinda swings both ways from what I remembe. Mainly because Simon recommends Protected cells on his site.
Most members here do not want protected cells, including myself, and Jdub managed a deal with BG early on for the black unprotected Keep 5000mAh. I bought those for my first L6 because I intended to mod it.

But seriously consider measurements with any cell you may buy. L6 is pretty picky on diameter and length and the tops of cells need to be high enough to contact the other cell in series.

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JasonWW wrote:
fneuf wrote:

I know the recommended battery for the L6 is generally the Keeppower ICR26650 5200mAh, but looking at HKJ’s test it is very easy to find better performing cells. So I’m a bit hesitating. Why the KP ICR is considered the best match? Is it only because of its protection’s circuitry, making it a safer choice for 2x configuration?


I’m not sure where you heard that, but the recommended battery for the L6 is the Liitokala.

Maybe as far as protected cells are concerned, the top choice is the KeepPower 5200.


Convoy recommend the 69.5mm protected Keeppower (which as far as I’m aware is actually INR, not ICR as commonly thought). I doubt that in the stock L6 there would be any significant difference in performance between the protected Keeppower and unprotected Liitokala.
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stephenk wrote:
I doubt that in the stock L6 there would be any significant difference in performance between the protected Keeppower and unprotected Liitokala.

There’s not. I tested it.
I actually got a bit higher amps on the brightest setting with the KP for some reason (it might be an anomoly), but as soon as you resistor mod it, the Liitokala has the advantage. Then with a FET driver the Liitokala has a much bigger advantage.

Quote:
Stock FX30 driver (not Simon’s version):
Liitokala
Turbo/high = 4.60 amps
Med = 2.55 amps
Low = 0.55 amps

KeepPower
Turbo/high = 5.10 amps
Med = 1.90 amps
Low = 0.45 amps

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The Black LiitoKala 5000mAh 26650 or the light blue one are the best cells for the L6. Hands down.

Edit: Unless you want to adapt it to iJoy 21700’s. Wink

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DB Custom wrote:
The Black LiitoKala 5000mAh 26650 or the light blue one are the best cells for the L6*. Hands down.

Edit: Unless you want to adapt it to iJoy 21700’s. Wink


*If you want high drain and unprotected.
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That wasn’t the question, not a matter of what someone wants the question read which is best. Wink Big Smile

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DB Custom wrote:
That wasn’t the question, not a matter of what someone wants the question read which is best. Wink Big Smile

What do think the best protected cell is?

I’ve heard the Orbtronic has a 15A ability, but I don’t know much about how it handles current at the limit. Such as limit it or just shut off.

I’m thinking the KeepPower 5200 are the best protected.

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Greetings all!

I may as well chime in on this…
The cell recommended by Convoy and the cell the L6 was designed around is indeed the KeepPower 5200mAh as listed in the OP and recommended by Simon himself. Keep in mind though that was definitely stated with safety being priority #1 and that is based on the stock L6. In stock form you will see little if any difference from a higher-drain cell. Again, that is only when referring to the STOCK L6.

If you’re running a modded L6 with a different driver setup there are definitely better high-performance cells out there like the black LiitoKala cells or the light blue or any others Dale or Kawiboy or any of our other modding maniacs recommend. Wink

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Thanks for all those remarks guys. As I intend to offer it as a gift, I'll stick on the most secure solution.

 

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Convoy recommend the 69.5mm protected Keeppower (which as far as I’m aware is actually INR, not ICR as commonly thought).

Do you have any source stating that? Their own site is not sufficiently detailed. A "new" 6000mAh option is also listed there.

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fneuf wrote:
A “new” 6000mAh option is also listed there.

Interesting, this is the first seemingly legit 6,000mah 26650 cell I’ve seen.
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Seem to be close to the 27mm diameter side though.

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That is nice, 6000mAh 26650. They are listed for unprotected too. 20A continuous.
And some 18350 1200mAh 10A cont…

They have a line of flashlights. Big Smile
Got some 26650 spacers for pack builds also.
Thanks for the link! Cool stuff to look fwd to.

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