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mortuus wrote:
but would the KP 6000 even fit l6, i asume they are the same as the 5200 dimensions? i agree its hard to even find the kp 5200, i have been checking nkon from time to time no luck, just says out of stock all the time Sad not even a date or anything when to expect them there…

Yes they will fit if they are the same size as the KP-5200/protected cells. I am running the 5200’s in my L6 Thumbs Up

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mortuus wrote:
but would the KP 6000 even fit l6, i asume they are the same as the 5200 dimensions? i agree its hard to even find the kp 5200, i have been checking nkon from time to time no luck, just says out of stock all the time Sad not even a date or anything when to expect them there…

Yes they will fit if they are the same size as the KP-5200/protected cells. I am running the 5200’s in my L6 Thumbs Up


We really don’t know if the new 6000 KP is the same size as the old 5200.
Some people think the new KP 6000mah is basically a Shockli 5500mah which people have reported as fitting the L6, but I can’t remember which L6. The big tube or the little tube version. So it’s a bit of a gamble.

If you’ve got a big tube L6 it will probably fit. If you have the small tube, it’s unknown.

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Micael wrote:
Thanks for the help but not in stock. Yes I’m in Sweden that dont help Smile

I found thes at Nkon Enerpower 26650 4800mAh (protected) – 12A.

Thanks for the help.


That one has some confusing information. In one place it says it’s protected, then in another place it says “Without protection circuit! Not for flashlights!”.

That is odd.

At 26.2mm and 68mm it should fit fine. Being a flat top, you’ll need to either use a magnet or solder blob them.

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There definitely seems to be a shortage of protected 26650 cells right now.

I’m wondering if KeepPowers 5200 is being replaced by their new 6000 model?

I just checked the Chinese website and see they have them listed! I’d like to get a few Big Smile

Chinese website? Url Smile

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JasonWW wrote:
Some people think the new KP 6000mah is basically a Shockli 5500mah which people have reported as fitting the L6, but I can’t remember which L6. The big tube or the little tube version. So it’s a bit of a gamble.

If you’ve got a big tube L6 it will probably fit. If you have the small tube, it’s unknown.

It probably doesn’t help much, but I just picked up an L2 host (2pc ring style tube) and a Shockli 5500mah from MtnE. The cell fits and will slide out, but barely. IIRC, the L2 and some of L6 tubes should be about the same size, right? Not sure if that’s the larger or smaller L6 tube though.

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I just received the liitokala 26650 (black) 5000mah. I had to put a solder blob on it to make contact and it’s pulling just over 17A at the tail. The efest 4200mah (purple) pulls just over 15A. This thing is bright!

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Edness wrote:
I just received the liitokala 26650 (black) 5000mah. I had to put a solder blob on it to make contact and it’s pulling just over 17A at the tail. The efest 4200mah (purple) pulls just over 15A. This thing is bright!

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Very cool!!
I have pretty much the same parts waiting for the Black L6 SMO but with a lighted E-SW too. Think I am gonna try Yellow or Orange in the SW on the black body.

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Edness wrote:
I just received the liitokala 26650 (black) 5000mah. I had to put a solder blob on it to make contact and it’s pulling just over 17A at the tail. The efest 4200mah (purple) pulls just over 15A. This thing is bright!

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I take it that you are using the Black Liitokala 26650’s in your L6?
Have been wondering… DO they FIT in L6 OK??

(I ordered a pair on Flash-Sale)

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I have one of the recently purchased L6 and several Liitokala black. They fit but snug on the OD. No rattles Big Smile
My recent L2 is slightly looser on these, proper fit would better describe them.

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Yea the new black liitokala. Perfect fit! It won’t run in series out of the box tho.

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Edness wrote:
Yea the new black liitokala. Perfect fit! It won’t run in series out of the box tho.

Thank you Edness, glad to hear that. I knew they were flat tops,but price for the pair was fantastic !…..so… Solder blob no problem. Thumbs Up

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Edness wrote:
I just received the liitokala 26650 (black) 5000mah. I had to put a solder blob on it to make contact and it’s pulling just over 17A at the tail. The efest 4200mah (purple) pulls just over 15A. This thing is bright!

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i wouldnt feel safe use the liitokalas as u have to use a blob or magnet to make connection in series, what if it shortcuts or something? since they are unprotected its better using the efest since u dont need any magnet or blob..

and is it even a difference if u get 15A or 17 will the lumens be much higher if any?

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Solder blob is safe , magnet is not !

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mortuus wrote:
Edness wrote:
I just received the liitokala 26650 (black) 5000mah. I had to put a solder blob on it to make contact and it’s pulling just over 17A at the tail. The efest 4200mah (purple) pulls just over 15A. This thing is bright!

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i wouldnt feel safe use the liitokalas as u have to use a blob or magnet to make connection in series, what if it shortcuts or something? since they are unprotected its better using the efest since u dont need any magnet or blob..

and is it even a difference if u get 15A or 17 will the lumens be much higher if any?


He did not say he was using a magnet. Those have risks if you don’t do it right. Solder blobs are super safe. Who told you they are a problem or unsafe?

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Problem of using 2 × 26650 Unprotected in series is that the L6 low voltage protection can’t tell if only one of the cell is undervolted.
No good then for the average Jean-Pierre Wink

But for the lightalcoolic that knows what he does and recharges the 26650s often , that should be ok …

I am still waiting for my L6 from GB and its 26650 Protected KPs from BG …. sooo long wait ….

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Problem of using 2 × 26650 Unprotected in series is that the L6 low voltage protection can’t tell if only one of the cell is undervolted.
No good then for the average Jean-Pierre Wink

But for the lightalcoolic that knows what he does and recharges the 26650s often , that should be ok …

I am still waiting for my L6 from GB and its 26650 Protected KPs from BG …. sooo long wait ….


Whether you use protected or unprotected, they have the same rules. Always use 2 identical cells, same age and same number of charges on it. Before you recharge them, make sure the voltages are the same. This way you know they are running down evenly.

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If you just use 2 quality unprotected , but matched cells (bought together , not used seperately before) , they will still be completely fine .

If you want to be 1000% safe just use 2 protected (& matched) 26650 cells .

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These are new batteries and solder blobs are safe! I’m sure some of us get a kick just to get one amp extra from an existing setup…at least I do. I just measured it with my light meter and those 2 amps definitely made a difference!

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giorgoskok wrote:
Solder blob is safe , magnet is not !

I use a magnet with a nylon washer around it to prevent it moving, is this the main concern when using magnets? that they will move and make contact somewhere they shouldn’t?

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DoNkEyConN wrote:
giorgoskok wrote:
Solder blob is safe , magnet is not !

I use a magnet with a nylon washer around it to prevent it moving, is this the main concern when using magnets? that they will move and make contact somewhere they shouldn’t?


Yes, for instance if you drop the light on its side. The magnet might touch both the battery and the battery tube inner wall. If the inner wall is conductive, some are not, then you will get a short circuit.

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The nylon washer around the magnet should prevent any issue, good idea.

Remember, the solder blob only has to allow contact, we’re usually talking about the thickness of the wrap so it doesn’t take much of a solder blob to get that contact. I like doing both cells and alternating how I load them when recharging, sometimes in series one cell will discharge slightly more than the other so alternating them helps keep them in balance.

And yes, 2A is major when you’ve gone to great lengths to get everything possible… if a cell change nets 2A then by all means use it!

I was gonna say, if the long protected cell wont’ fit take the protection circuit off. Big Smile

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i look almost everyday on nkon for the Keeppower to get in stock, still nothing Sad is there really a shortage on those cells or? it feels hopeless to find good cells in EU bah…

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so I have ordered an xhp70.2 Led for my L6 but I’ve just looked and it is available in 6v or 12v. which is the correct one to use?

thanks in advance

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so I have ordered an xhp70.2 Led for my L6 but I’ve just looked and it is available in 6v or 12v. which is the correct one to use?

thanks in advance

The appropriate one is the 6V.
Will you be running it on the stock driver?

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DoNkEyConN wrote:
so I have ordered an xhp70.2 Led for my L6 but I’ve just looked and it is available in 6v or 12v. which is the correct one to use?

thanks in advance

The appropriate one is the 6V one.

Phew!

thanks Bilakos Wink

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It also needs to be 20mm.

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The emitter is the same regardless, it’s the board that it’s mounted on where 6V or 12V get’s determined. Wink

And yes, in stock form the original XHP-70 is on a 6V 20mm MCPCB. Mine are all now 26mm MaxTOCH.

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I forgot, but will my L6 work with two NCR18650B protected cells?  I am looking at these ones.  They are 65.5mm flat tops.  https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B010LTDFBK/ref=pe_1243740_268305490_em_...

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Aliexpress sells them but more expensive and ships them to countries that others will not ship too.  Many websites that sell keeppower will say out of stock if the country you select is on the list not to ship to such as Canada.  Banggood won't ship to canada anymore and says out of stock, but if you choose usa, they are in stock and ready to ship.

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klrman wrote:

I forgot, but will my L6 work with two NCR18650B protected cells?  I am looking at these ones.  They are 65.5mm flat tops.  https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B010LTDFBK/ref=pe_1243740_268305490_em_...

They might work but you would need a spacer. The L6 is designed for 26650 batteries

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