*BLF LT1 Lantern Project* (LT1 GB is Active, (GB codes being sent out soon!

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I want multi color color RGB mixing perimeter mounted aux lights with storm mode so we can use it on the Christmas Tree instead of twinkle lights & tinsel!

Hmm…Lexel has designed many aux boards in the past, so perhaps?

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Do you think there’s enough space in the battery compartment to put a small version of the cheat sheet? Perhaps rolled around the batteries?
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Hmmm.. I wonder how much of a cheat sheet I can fit onto a battery wrap? Off to the skunkworks I go!

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Yes. It has no problem fitting in the space between the tailcap and the tailcap spring board.

I know that because that’s where my manual is.

My very own high current Beryllium Copper springs Gen 3:
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amishbill wrote:
bansuri wrote:

Do you think there’s enough space in the battery compartment to put a small version of the cheat sheet? Perhaps rolled around the batteries?
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Hmmm.. I wonder how much of a cheat sheet I can fit onto a battery wrap? Off to the skunkworks I go!

Well, you could split it up across four batteries if necessary.

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perfect modes for any lantern

We should never underestimate the importance of having adjustable-tint high-CRI momentary bike flasher mode in a lantern. I mean, it would be totally useless without that. How else would we stutter-signal to others while riding down the mountain in our bike-mounted camping tents? Silly

From now on I will refer to that mode when implemented on a lantern as Penny-Farthing mode. Big Smile

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Its been a long wait, i am very excited it’s almost done!
Do we thin o a 30q would suit this light, or we’re best with sofirn battery?
I use 30q in my q8, and armytek lights.

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A 30Q would be about perfect for balance between cost and capacity for a high drain cell that can both be used in the Q8 and BLF Lantern, if they stay in pairs of 4.

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DBSAR wrote:
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I hope I’m not too late, but I’ve finally been updating the diagram to make a lantern-specific version. Here’s what I have so far:

Thanks Toykeeper for the updates and new manual Andruil diagram Thumbs Up Big Smile


@DBSAR — add it to the first post please. The group, esp newbies shouldn’t have to read the entire thread to find the UI manual Smile
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TK - I'll shoot you and DBSAR the full color logo files I have if you want them for the manual.

Speaking of the manual, I've been trying to condense it into something easier to fit on the back of one or more LT1 battery wraps. Does this look accurate so far?
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Don't mind me - I have no idea why the formatting is all janked up - working on it
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1 = click, release
1H = click, hold
2 = click, release, click, release
2H = click, release, click, hold
etc

From Off
. 1 On
. 1H Ramp Floor
. 2 Ramp Ceiling
. 3 BattCheck (2 clicks to cycle Sunset-Beacon-BattCheck)
. 3H Strobes (2 clicks to cycle Candle-Bike-Party-Police-Storm)
. 4 Lockout (3 clicks to cycle Aux Off/Low/High/Blink)
. 5 Momentary
. 6 Muggle
. 7 Aux Off/Low/High/Blink
While On
. 1 Off
. 1H Ramp Up
. 2 Turbo On / Back
. 2H Ramp Down
. 3 Ramp Smooth/Stepped
. 3H Tint Ramp CFG
. 4 Ramp CFG
. 5 Manual Memory
. 5H Auto Memory
In Beacon
. 4 Beacon CFG – Click N times for N seconds per flash
In Ramp CFG
. 4 configure
. Click N times for Floor level
. Click N times for Ceiling level
. Click N times for number of ramp steps (step mode only)
In Candle
. 3 Add 30 min to timer

DIY LT1 battery wrap image. "PDF on Google Drive":https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IHIEOi1NXu868IYNCzIM7D2Ulpxchmww

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cpf_borealis wrote:
DBSAR wrote:
ToyKeeper wrote:
I hope I’m not too late, but I’ve finally been updating the diagram to make a lantern-specific version. Here’s what I have so far:

Thanks Toykeeper for the updates and new manual Andruil diagram Thumbs Up Big Smile


@DBSAR — add it to the first post please. The group, esp newbies shouldn’t have to read the entire thread to find the UI manual Smile

good point Thumbs Up will do

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I’m interested in one!

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I'm interested in the lantern!

Just got a FW3A and learned about BLF, totally thrilled with what you all are accomplishing here.

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Joined to say I’m interested in one.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
I got a bit distracted last time I tried to catch up on this thread… but not today. Apologies for the delay in responding to posts.
DarkShot wrote:
Random thought: A multi-emitter EDC light with tint ramping capabilities would be neat. Likely not possible in a D4/FW3A formfactor I’d imagine given the limited driver space but it’d be really cool nonetheless.

It should be possible in a D4. It even has a good number of LEDs for this purpose, so it can have two of each. It’d basically just need the MCPCB and driver redesigned to have two separate LED- outputs, and the firmware would need some extra code to handle four power channels instead of two. Not sure how hard it would be to fit everything onto a D4-sized driver though; it’d probably be necessary to omit the RGB aux LEDs to make room for the extra power circuitry.

I recently saw this in Sofirn’s FB page:

Sofirn color-temperature-mixing EDC flashlight

It seems to use nearly the same LEDs as the BLF LT1 lantern (LT1 plans to use 2x LH351D 2700k + 2x LH351D 5000k); this teaser color-temperature-mixing EDC flashlight is supposed to use 2x LH351D 2700k + 2x LH351D 6000-6500k.

Probably transfer the Anduril firmware to an EDC flashlight?

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That’s an interesting technology transfer. The hardest part is probably transferring the LT1 driver design into a smaller footprint. Then again, if their engineers were looking ahead, there’s no reason they couldn’t have designed the LT1 driver from the start to fit in other shells. Hmmm…

I’m not sure of their market though. How many people outside of the enthusiast community will really care? Well… maybe photographers who want portable fill lighting they can match to ambient.

DIY LT1 battery wrap image. "PDF on Google Drive":https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IHIEOi1NXu868IYNCzIM7D2Ulpxchmww

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amishbill wrote:
That’s an interesting technology transfer. The hardest part is probably transferring the LT1 driver design into a smaller footprint. Then again, if their engineers were looking ahead, there’s no reason they couldn’t have designed the LT1 driver from the start to fit in other shells. Hmmm…

I’m not sure of their market though. How many people outside of the enthusiast community will really care? Well… maybe photographers who want portable fill lighting they can match to ambient.

It could be possible that they are wanting to try the LT1’s tint ramp design-concept in a flashlight form after learning how well the LH351 series works with the tint ramp high-CRI range. I like the idea of that as a flashlight too. If Toykeeper’s awesome Andruil-LT1 firmware was incorporated in such a flashlight, i would definitely be interested in one myself. Thumbs Up

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d_t_a wrote:
I recently saw this in Sofirn’s FB page:

Sofirn color-temperature-mixing EDC flashlight

Probably transfer the Anduril firmware to an EDC flashlight?

They posted a teaser video for that a while back. If I understand correctly, what happened was:

  • BLF sent a lantern driver design to Sofirn
  • Sofirn interpreted the design as a guideline, and made their own version of it
  • BLF insisted that Sofirn use BLF’s original design in the lantern
  • Sofirn still wanted to use their version for something, and scaled it down to use in a smaller light

Otherwise, I haven’t really heard anything about it except the teasers Sofirn posted. I don’t know what firmware it uses, or if it is reflashable. I like the design, but it would have been nice to be included in the process since it’s directly based on BLF’s designs.

In any case, I hope it’s reflashable.

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Too late to get this into the LT1, but for the LT2 it might be interesting to potentially use the same pogo pin layout as the D4v2 for software updating.

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ToyKeeper wrote:

They posted a teaser video for that a while back. If I understand correctly, what happened was:

  • BLF sent a lantern driver design to Sofirn
  • Sofirn interpreted the design as a guideline, and made their own version of it
  • BLF insisted that Sofirn use BLF’s original design in the lantern
  • Sofirn still wanted to use their version for something, and scaled it down to use in a smaller light

Otherwise, I haven’t really heard anything about it except the teasers Sofirn posted. I don’t know what firmware it uses, or if it is reflashable. I like the design, but it would have been nice to be included in the process since it’s directly based on BLF’s designs.

In any case, I hope it’s reflashable.

Good points. I haven’t heard much on it or that light’s specifications.

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Hello.

I am interested. Put me down for one.

I am new and joined to get in on it and support what you are doing.

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ToyKeeper wrote:

They posted a teaser video for that a while back. If I understand correctly, what happened was:

  • BLF sent a lantern driver design to Sofirn
  • Sofirn interpreted the design as a guideline, and made their own version of it
  • BLF insisted that Sofirn use BLF’s original design in the lantern
  • Sofirn still wanted to use their version for something, and scaled it down to use in a smaller light.

I understand that the changes you are talking about are from this new flashlight and not from the LT1. It’s right?
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 I totally want 2 when they come out

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charwinger21 wrote:
Too late to get this into the LT1, but for the LT2 it might be interesting to potentially use the same pogo pin layout as the D4v2 for software updating.

The reprogramming pins are in the LT1, not sure if the pin layout is identical, but would be surprised if it was not. I think the programming pins are at 3 oclock in the picture.

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sbslider wrote:
charwinger21 wrote:
Too late to get this into the LT1, but for the LT2 it might be interesting to potentially use the same pogo pin layout as the D4v2 for software updating.

The reprogramming pins are in the LT1, not sure if the pin layout is identical, but would be surprised if it was not. I think the programming pins are at 3 oclock in the picture.


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The Layout of the programming pins is different. LT1 is from Lexel and D4v2 is from someone else, but not Lexel. And they use different keys.

Lexel has 5+3 pins, the D4v2 has 4+4 pins. (with all alignment pins used.)

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Wieselflinkpro wrote:

The Layout of the programming pins is different. LT1 is from Lexel and D4v2 is from someone else, but not Lexel. And they use different keys.

Lexel has 5+3 pins, the D4v2 has 4+4 pins. (with all alignment pins used.)


Toykeeper’s pic seems to show a 4+3 pin layout. There’s a spot that looks like a placeholder for a 5’th pin, but it’s not a via or pad, so I doubt it’s in use.

DIY LT1 battery wrap image. "PDF on Google Drive":https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IHIEOi1NXu868IYNCzIM7D2Ulpxchmww

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As far as I’m aware, all of Lexel’s drivers use a single pogo pad layout.

All of Emisar’s lights use a consistent pad layout too, ever since Emisar started adding pads (D4v2 and newer).

However, those are two different layouts.

HarleyQuin’s HQ Universal ProgKey works on both, but it’s necessary to move a couple wires to change the mapping when switching back and forth. This isn’t commercially available though; people basically have to build their own or find someone who makes them.

Emisar’s flashing kit uses a 4×2 layout, but the 2 unused pins are omitted, so it doesn’t work with Lexel’s 3×2 layout. At least, not without soldering on another pin or two.

So… long story short: The BLF LT1 Lantern has programming pads for updating the firmware, but no adapters for it are commercially available yet.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
Rexlion wrote:
Are we there yet?

Ready to play with my LT1 lanterns!

Especially if they come in pink, purple, metallic red, or other fun colors. Smile

(though I don’t think that’s in the plan… IIRC the only planned colors are black, sand, and forest green)

I totally love how those ridiculous colours started as a joke and then we got renders and ppl liked it, myself included. I would totally buy a ridiculous colour over a black. It would be hilarious with a hardcore outdoor/camping dude pulling out a pink or bright purple light.

also the manual looks good!

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… dude pulling out a pink or bright purple light…..

Dangit – if we can get a purple TK edition FW3a, we should be able to get a purple LT1!

Though, TBH, I’d love a candy orange or dayglow yellow or fluorescent lime green or dazzling red a lot too. My wallet though – not so much.

DIY LT1 battery wrap image. "PDF on Google Drive":https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IHIEOi1NXu868IYNCzIM7D2Ulpxchmww

Fresh Sanyo NCR18650GAs already wrapped "for sale HERE":http://budgetlightforum.com/node/69120 if you like.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
d_t_a wrote:
I recently saw this in Sofirn’s FB page:

Sofirn color-temperature-mixing EDC flashlight

Probably transfer the Anduril firmware to an EDC flashlight?

They posted a teaser video for that a while back. If I understand correctly, what happened was:

  • BLF sent a lantern driver design to Sofirn
  • Sofirn interpreted the design as a guideline, and made their own version of it
  • BLF insisted that Sofirn use BLF’s original design in the lantern
  • Sofirn still wanted to use their version for something, and scaled it down to use in a smaller light

Otherwise, I haven’t really heard anything about it except the teasers Sofirn posted. I don’t know what firmware it uses, or if it is reflashable. I like the design, but it would have been nice to be included in the process since it’s directly based on BLF’s designs.

In any case, I hope it’s reflashable.

Thanks for the explanation.

So bottom line is that, in case Sofirn pushes thru with the above EDC color-temperature changing flashlight, it will be using Sofirn’s own design, and probably not Anduril. Hoping it will be reflashable too.. if this flashlight pushes through.

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pardon for inserting that flashlight into this LT1 lantern message thread since I thought it may be related to the LT1, but based on the explanation, it probably doesn’t.

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