*BLF LT1 Lantern Project* (codes going out for more LT1s, second batch shipping!)

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Has anyone apart of batch 2 been able to order more than 1 light via amazon?

Just ordered mine
Is “mine” singular or plural?
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Does the second batch have any improvements over the first one? Should we order now if we want to buy from the second batch ?

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is there a way to order from other than Amazon? Banggood or Aliexpress?

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ToyKeeper wrote:
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sunset function .. possibility to also adjust the brightness … ?

I’m hoping to add that at some point, but I’m not sure when. I really need to make the code smaller somehow before I add new features.

Lately I’ve been focusing mostly on deeper kernel-level changes, like I just recently rewrote the entire interrupt handling system and a lot of the standby and ADC and button code. This fixes some things which needed to be done, but doesn’t really change any user-visible behavior.

For the lantern specifically though, I did at least add SOS. I’m testing the new build now, and am hopeful it can be used in batch 3.


For other Anduril lights I would like to see a momentary turbo like on Narsil. Anduril momentary mode goes to where you last had the ramp set at. It would nice if could go to turbo as well. Hope you can add this to the code sometime.
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my neighbor backed out…should i just PM back that I am not using the code?

anyone in NE ILLinois into get togethers?

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I just received a PM form Sofirn with a one time code for Amazon. I’m at numbers 813, 814, 815, 816, 2558, 2559, 2560, 2561. Does this mean for one lamp or I have one time to order all the lamps I signed up for, or the first group of 4?

Even having read every post in this thread, I’m unsure and don’t want to jump the line, plus looking forward to possible color options. (Go red!)

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Gj wrote:
I just received a PM form Sofirn with a one time code for Amazon. I’m at numbers 813, 814, 815, 816, 2558, 2559, 2560, 2561. Does this mean for one lamp or I have one time to order all the lamps I signed up for, or the first group of 4?

Even having read every post in this thread, I’m unsure and don’t want to jump the line, plus looking forward to possible color options. (Go red!)

It should only allow you to purchase one lantern.

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Tom E wrote:

Anodizing is probably the same level as the Q8 – not the higher quality but decent. Sofirn lights in general are similar quality. It gets pricey to get high quality, and of course it’s easy to overrate the anodizing.

True, but one would expect an aluminium flashlight to come out on top in a head to head against pine trim lol

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jigsaw wrote:
Gj wrote:
I just received a PM form Sofirn with a one time code for Amazon. I’m at numbers 813, 814, 815, 816, 2558, 2559, 2560, 2561. Does this mean for one lamp or I have one time to order all the lamps I signed up for, or the first group of 4?

Even having read every post in this thread, I’m unsure and don’t want to jump the line, plus looking forward to possible color options. (Go red!)

It should only allow you to purchase one lantern.

Thanks, ordered one, est. delivery Dec 23, 2019 – Jan 21, 2020.

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Gj wrote:
Thanks, ordered one, est. delivery Dec 23, 2019 – Jan 21, 2020.
And just like that my hopes of giving these as Christmas gifts are long gone. I got a code for one since all my lanterns over #1000 on the list except for one.
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Stereodude wrote:
Gj wrote:
Thanks, ordered one, est. delivery Dec 23, 2019 – Jan 21, 2020.
And just like that my hopes of giving these as Christmas gifts are long gone. I got a code for one since all my lanterns over #1000 on the list except for one.


what about a Happy Saint Patrick’s Day gift Wink

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Stereodude wrote:
Gj wrote:
Thanks, ordered one, est. delivery Dec 23, 2019 – Jan 21, 2020.
And just like that my hopes of giving these as Christmas gifts are long gone. I got a code for one since all my lanterns over #1000 on the list except for one.

Christmas next year maybe?
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f0xx wrote:
Stereodude wrote:
Gj wrote:
Thanks, ordered one, est. delivery Dec 23, 2019 – Jan 21, 2020.
And just like that my hopes of giving these as Christmas gifts are long gone. I got a code for one since all my lanterns over #1000 on the list except for one.
Christmas next year maybe?

Déjà Vu ?

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i was able to order of amazon australia store using my code from the original PM,

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Stereodude wrote:
Gj wrote:
Thanks, ordered one, est. delivery Dec 23, 2019 – Jan 21, 2020.
And just like that my hopes of giving these as Christmas gifts are long gone. I got a code for one since all my lanterns over #1000 on the list except for one.

Several folks have been receiving lanterns in 3 weeks or less. YMMV.

PocketSammich wrote: I don’t need this, but I want it. Please sign me up.

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Sorry for the off-topic post… This isn’t really related to the lantern. It’s about other Anduril-based lights.

Th558 wrote:
For other Anduril lights I would like to see a momentary turbo like on Narsil. Anduril momentary mode goes to where you last had the ramp set at. It would nice if could go to turbo as well.

It can already do momentary mode at the maximum level… it just requires ramping up to that level first.

The tricky part is that, on most lights, the highest level isn’t in the ramp by default. And momentary can only go as high as the ramp does. But if this is not what the user wants, the ramp ceiling can be raised with just a few clicks. That’s how I usually configure really throwy flashlights. It’s handy having a momentary turbo on throwers, so I made sure it was possible to do that.

To raise the ceiling all the way:

  • 1 click: Turn the light on.
  • 4 clicks: Go to ramp config mode.
  • 0 clicks: Wait for the second prompt.
  • 1 click: Set the ceiling to maximum.
  • 0 clicks: Wait another few seconds to exit config mode.

This only needs to be done one time, and then momentary mode can use the turbo level.

Turbo is also available in sort of a momentary fashion by doing a double click while on.

About the lantern though, it already has its ceiling levels set as high as they can go, by default. So this isn’t an issue on the lantern unless the user manually lowers the ceiling level(s).

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sbslider wrote:
Stereodude wrote:
Gj wrote:
Thanks, ordered one, est. delivery Dec 23, 2019 – Jan 21, 2020.
And just like that my hopes of giving these as Christmas gifts are long gone. I got a code for one since all my lanterns over #1000 on the list except for one.

Several folks have been receiving lanterns in 3 weeks or less. YMMV.
That may be, but unless they suddenly push codes for all the slots up to 3000 I’m not going to be able to order all of them in the next few days.

I have little reason to order a stack of lanterns to sit on them for almost a year until next Christmas when future production runs will likely fix the USB-C charging issues and other minor problems. We’ve already seen they can be bought for the group buy price (or better) outside of the group buy, so I will likely forgo all my extra group buy slots unless something changes and revisit buying LT1’s as gifts in the fall of 2020.

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Stereodude wrote:

I have little reason to order a stack of lanterns to sit on them for almost a year until next Christmas when future production runs will likely fix the USB-C charging issues and other minor problems. We’ve already seen they can be bought for the group buy price (or better) outside of the group buy, so I will likely forgo all my extra group buy slots unless something changes and revisit buying LT1’s as gifts in the fall of 2020.

But usually market conditions and demand will determine a selling price.

I hope I am wrong, but IMHO, with the quality and exclusive nature of our BLF LT1 lantern, I am afraid the selling price after our codes are used up will settle down into a higher $75-$100 range.

The lighter the brighter the better.

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- Seems like no matter how much we try to do, there will be the same few who will repetitively complain, whine and have mostly negative replies to projects created by “volunteers” on BLF, out of our free time. I sen this not only here in the LT1 project thread, but other BLF projects too in the past. Added it seems the ones doing the whining are those who never contribute anything positive, but all they do is take low-blow jabs at the projects, project teams, and manufacturers. It does get discouraging for those who take to time & effort to try to design something for others in the community and abroad, but we always seem to have to endure the negative “jabs” and slaps-in-the-face from the complainers and whiners who will never be satisfied at no matter what others try to do to help. Facepalm

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Waiting patiently for my code…
DBSAR has a point…

I follow this forum frequently and always snoop around for great buys or fascinating projects.
I really enjoy learning about LED’s, drivers and user interfaces/flashing.

To me the miracle of this hobby isn’t that I get another light that I will use like my life depended on it or is much different (in utility) from the $4 store lights…it’s dark, I need to see in the dark, I grab a flashlight and turn it on so I can see, I turn it off and set it aside until the next time I need to look in the closet or walk around at night…pretty simple utility.

I am overjoyed at the enthusiasm over builds, tints, reflectors, batteries, user interfaces and flashing Anduril on to a chip with a smartphone…how cool is that??

The appeal for me is how much such a simple device can be modded, tweaked and programmed to way more than a $4 store light—its not their “product” (absence of darkness) I enjoy so much but their “production”.

I’m a computer geek and I find all that borax to be a fun science lesson.

All the people on here that conceive, build, tweak and program are a knowledgeable bunch and always give me more than just a flashlight.

I understand it is a labor of love for them and I hold them to no timetable or even completion of project.

That this bunch of volunteers can make an idea eventually turn in to something I can buy from Amazon (when ready) and have in my hand in two days is beyond industrious.

I guess they could have not bothered, and I would have been spared craving a light that never came in to existence in the first place.

Peace!

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DBSAR wrote:
- Seems like no matter how much we try to do, there will be the same few who will repetitively complain, whine and have mostly negative replies to projects created by “volunteers” on BLF, out of our free time. I sen this not only here in the LT1 project thread, but other BLF projects too in the past. Added it seems the ones doing the whining are those who never contribute anything positive, but all they do is take low-blow jabs at the projects, project teams, and manufacturers. It does get discouraging for those who take to time & effort to try to design something for others in the community and abroad, but we always seem to have to endure the negative “jabs” and slaps-in-the-face from the complainers and whiners who will never be satisfied at no matter what others try to do to help. Facepalm

Thanks for all you’ve done DBSAR. (and BLF LT1 team.)

And for everyone else…..

When in uncertain,
when in doubt,
run in circles,
scream and shout.

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I for one am EXTREMELY grateful for what the LT1 team (and others on the forum) have accomplished.

Those who complain should ask themselves how they contributed.
Stop whining and if you’re not happy: just leave the forum.

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Thanks again, DBSAR and team.

Please remember that in a group this large there will inherently be enough unfortunate souls to fill one or more threads with nonsense. You can’t let the tiny minority of screaming d*cks get you down when most people are decent and appreciative. Broken people are VERY loud and that’s perhaps the biggest downside of the Internet.

When given an explanation that Sofirn’s LED supply is on backorder from the manufacturer, the most logical conclusion is that they are lying and are instead trying to stop me from giving them my money right this moment. Obviously, that makes perfect sense and refusing to accept my money is, in fact, a violation of my rights as the center of my own Universe.

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DBSAR wrote:
- Seems like no matter how much we try to do, there will be the same few who will repetitively complain, whine and have mostly negative replies to projects created by “volunteers” on BLF, out of our free time. I sen this not only here in the LT1 project thread, but other BLF projects too in the past. Added it seems the ones doing the whining are those who never contribute anything positive, but all they do is take low-blow jabs at the projects, project teams, and manufacturers. It does get discouraging for those who take to time & effort to try to design something for others in the community and abroad, but we always seem to have to endure the negative “jabs” and slaps-in-the-face from the complainers and whiners who will never be satisfied at no matter what others try to do to help. Facepalm
sigh

The fallback position to any critical comment on the LT1 is always, “woe is us, we’re unpaid volunteers, you guys don’t appreciate our efforts, and we’re doing the best we can.” That of course is absurd. I appreciate the effort. I understand the reality of the project. However, I also don’t believe that’s an automatic valid excuse for every easily rectified oversight / mistake. That’s a reasonable explanation if someone starts whining that you didn’t do a DFMEA or didn’t do thermal modelling or FEA on the mechanical design or something. That’s not an automatic reasonable explanation for everything or anything.

If you want to have a pity party I guess you can. I spent many hours working on that horrific manual. “Never contributing anything positive” my eye… Further, I made no attack. I didn’t blame anyone. I made a dispassionate & well reasoned argument as to why it makes no sense to buy a bunch of lanterns now, miss Christmas 2019, and then sit on them for a year. I’m sorry you take it so personally that someone might want to wait for lanterns with bugs worked out instead of buying the early releases, especially when they’re gifts for non-flashlightaholics. There’s just no reason to buy them now with the intent to give them as Christmas gifts in 2020.

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You could try giving them as gifts before they might actually get used by the recipients. Sort of a “random act of kindness”.

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After seeing how the project was coming along I put my name down for four lanterns, as it is obviously a groundbreaking piece of technmology that is likely to be copied by others in the future, and it seems like a perfect gift for several people that I know. Regarding the option to purchase I never had a specific date in mind, especially as I entered the group buy fairly late. It doesn’t really make much difference whether I give them to people for Christmas, or as birthday presents at a later point.

As the Chinese say – 无所谓 (wu suo wei)!

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Maybe it could have been a good idea to move from a “development thread” to a “production and distribution thread”, once the LT1 was ready and the first codes were being send out.
So that the developers can sit back and relax (I remember feeling very satisfied once production of the Q8 started and reports came in that mostly people liked the thing) while the inevitable (as seem proven in the past) chaos of production in batches, buying and then random distribution (in time and order) and then customers who are/feel mistreated, and then finally everyone getting their lights, takes place elsewhere.
Good and bad experiences with the actual light by customers, and found design flaws, can be reported again in the development thread.

But as everone is free on an internet forum to post where one likes, it probably will not prove possible to keep it separated. Wink

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ToyKeeper wrote:
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sunset function .. possibility to also adjust the brightness … ?

I’m hoping to add that at some point, but I’m not sure when. I really need to make the code smaller somehow before I add new features.

Lately I’ve been focusing mostly on deeper kernel-level changes, like I just recently rewrote the entire interrupt handling system and a lot of the standby and ADC and button code. This fixes some things which needed to be done, but doesn’t really change any user-visible behavior.

For the lantern specifically though, I did at least add SOS. I’m testing the new build now, and am hopeful it can be used in batch 3.

Thanks for this update! An off timer for sunset would really be great Smile
But you are right. First things first.
It’s highly appreciated, that you put so much work into this platform!

Which attiny is used in the LT1? I guess the larger 8k model, right?
So for notable more space we will have to wait for a future 16 or 32 K version….

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just got my code,ordered from amazon. any issues to know about?

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bjs55 wrote:
just got my code,ordered from amazon. any issues to know about?
Yes

1) It won’t charge from a USB-C charger using a USB-C to USB-C cable. (It will charge from a USB-A charger using a USB-A to USB-C cable.)
2) Flat top or near flat top cells may mechanically interfere with the potentiometer on the bottom of the driver board. (It can be removed from the driver board as it’s unused)

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