**BLF Ultimate Lantern Project** -Driver design updates Nov,13,2017 (by DEL

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I saw this and thought of your lantern project.

http://www.banggood.com/LED-Flashlight-Silicon-Rubber-Light-Cover-Diffus...

In the picture it looks like a old gas mantle. With it mounted in a led lantern, it may even fool some people.

Looks like it disperses light well too. I’m not sure about lumen loss though.

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This looks like it’s going to go places!!!! Big Smile

Four things:
1: How does it compare in glare to the likes of the fenix CL lanterns and black diamond stuff?
2: I noticed in the picture the wires running to the LED were clear shrouded but still very visible. What are your plans to minimize their impact on the light’s output profile?
3: Like the others have said, would it be possible to have a further reflective downward shroud add-on so none of the light is visible above a 30-45 degree angle, specifically table time stuff. Obviously I don’t have experience with the glare and this might be a moot point anyway. Maybe even making the outer enclosure glass frosted as well could make a beneficial difference for glare and 360 light profile?
4: How is the durability of the enclosure? Is it still being made of acrylic? I would highly suggest Polycarbonate or UHMW for extreme drop and puncture resistance. Acrylic is much too brittle and weak and I can attest to material testing with it – it is not quality at all…

Excellent work so far on this project. I really want to see a camping lantern that I will actually want to use/buy!

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Camo5 wrote:
This looks like it’s going to go places!!!! Big Smile

Four things:
1: How does it compare in glare to the likes of the fenix CL lanterns and black diamond stuff?
2: I noticed in the picture the wires running to the LED were clear shrouded but still very visible. What are your plans to minimize their impact on the light’s output profile?
3: Like the others have said, would it be possible to have a further reflective downward shroud add-on so none of the light is visible above a 30-45 degree angle, specifically table time stuff. Obviously I don’t have experience with the glare and this might be a moot point anyway. Maybe even making the outer enclosure glass frosted as well could make a beneficial difference for glare and 360 light profile?
4: How is the durability of the enclosure? Is it still being made of acrylic? I would highly suggest Polycarbonate or UHMW for extreme drop and puncture resistance. Acrylic is much too brittle and weak and I can attest to material testing with it – it is not quality at all…

Excellent work so far on this project. I really want to see a camping lantern that I will actually want to use/buy!

The production design would have two thin metal post instead of the wires, ( with the diffuser they would not be a problem and cast no shadows) as for glare, its less than all the lanterns i tested. Right now all we have is this prototype, and we are still trying to find & work a deal with a manufacturer who would take on this design, as Kronos has been to busy with other projects and work.

That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight

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I would be interested in several. Depending on price. Once things are solidified, I can ask around some of the neighbors to see if any of them are interested. We lose power around here with annoying regularity. I have flashlights. But for wiling away the hours with a book; not useful. Head lights; generally too bright and not really comfortable.

Bottom line: great idea.

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Interested

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Heh. This looks like a great idea/item to have. Just saw this thread today. Looking pretty neat Smile

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Wow, sounds great! Definitely in, I can't wait to try one out camping! Love the choice of 7A3 tint, it's definitely my favorite so far. The candle/warm incandescent/sunset-golden-hour-like tint, almost campfire-like, seems to be ideal for use in a lantern. Big Smile I've been itching to make up my mind and mod one of my cheapo old plastic lanterns to use a 7A3.
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What is happening?

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Would love to support this!

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Make it happen!

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Interested, make it and they shall come

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If a manufacturer can still be found and negotiated with to build this it will be done. While the prototype is a great success in eliminating the many common problems found in other LED lanterns on the market, we still need to find & seal a deal with a manufacturer to build then into production.

That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight

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DBSAR wrote:
If a manufacturer can still be found and negotiated with to build this it will be done. While the prototype is a great success in eliminating the many common problems found in other LED lanterns on the market, we still need to find & seal a deal with a manufacturer to build then into production.

You ought to try and piggy back with The Miller on the SRK project with Thorfire. Two heads, one body. Would be a win win.

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DBSAR wrote:
If a manufacturer can still be found and negotiated with to build this it will be done. While the prototype is a great success in eliminating the many common problems found in other LED lanterns on the market, we still need to find & seal a deal with a manufacturer to build then into production.

You ought to try and piggy back with The Miller on the SRK project with Thorfire. Two heads, one body. Would be a win win.

it could work, but i am unsure how far he has worked into his SRK project already.

That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight

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I’m interested in one, possibly more depending on the price point.

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Interested.

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Interested depending on price…

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Interested also depending on the price.

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Another interested here.

The talk of teaming up with the q8 sounds worth checking out, thinking logically a lantern and torch could very feasibly share a lot of components.

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Another interested here.

The talk of teaming up with the q8 sounds worth checking out, thinking logically a lantern and torch could very feasibly share a lot of components.

miller has not shown any interest in adding this to that project, and the last member who was going to help push this in to a production model bailed due to work loads, etc. At the moment its in the air and looking for help to get it going into a production model, while in the mean time the prototype has proven itself over & over again as the best most usable LED lantern i ever used & have.

That Canadian flashlight guy & Lantern Guru -Den / DBSARlight

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I would definitely go for this lantern.

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I too would like to see this lantern come to life. It may be premature to say I would also like to see how it worked with an ET-E and a remote phosphor as my contest effort has yet to get beyond the pile of parts stage. However…

As for combining with the miller super SRK project, it sounds cool, but the two uses are quite different. One is a low output lantern, the other a high output. Would that not need different drivers that change with the head? That will boost price and I don’t think that interests the high output project. Just a guess.

Anyhow I am still interested in this lantern. It would ne nice to be able to do a comparison between this prototype and my remote phosphor.

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DBSAR wrote:
miller has not shown any interest in adding this to that project, and the last member who was going to help push this in to a production model bailed due to work loads, etc. At the moment its in the air and looking for help to get it going into a production model, while in the mean time the prototype has proven itself over & over again as the best most usable LED lantern i ever used & have.

Aw, I’ve been so eager for the Q8 and this project that the prospect of sharing the body was very exciting. I really, really want the lantern project to succeed, as this design seems better than just throwing some diffuser on top of the Q8.

-joel

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I too would like to see this lantern come to life. It may be premature to say I would also like to see how it worked with an ET-E and a remote phosphor as my contest effort has yet to get beyond the pile of parts stage. However…

As for combining with the miller super SRK project, it sounds cool, but the two uses are quite different. One is a low output lantern, the other a high output. Would that not need different drivers that change with the head? That will boost price and I don’t think that interests the high output project.

Anyhow I am still interested in this lantern. It would ne nice to be able to do a comparison between this prototype and my remote phosphor.

Would a different driver actually be needed? Narsil has a lot of options, so maybe some combination of its moonlight modes, smooth ramping and mode sets would suffice for a lantern’s needs.

-joel

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No special driver needed. Anything that drives a 3 volt LED is okay. Ramping could be nice, I have one headlight that ramps and love it.

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Thinking if this made it to production, and folks started using lantern, it would be a must have item. Sorry it’s stalled, hope the project gets the support it needs. Good work dbsar

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I really want one of these. I was more excited for this than the Q8, and I am looking forward to that also. Hope this project can get the help it needs, wish I was able to help.

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I really want one of these. I was more excited for this than the Q8, and I am looking forward to that also. Hope this project can get the help it needs, wish I was able to help.

I totally agree. Would be so cool to have the Q8 packaged together with this Lantern head as an option. Fenix has the new 650 lumen CL30R out, and is selling the heck out of them for $94 US. The CL30R retails for $144

(CL30R on the right)

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