Review//Lixada 3800 Lumen Triple

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Man let’s hp[ejaxman is willing to work with us and provs to e a manufacterer!

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This is a SolarStorm SP-03 triple XM-L2, triple yes but floody?

I’m expecting something like this from the Lixada triple as well. We’ll see.

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That one is doing some good output.

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Just want to put this out there for everybody. I did a bunch of research on this 3800. Lumen 3T6 a while back and have since modified 5 of them. Most recently the Trustfire XMK which is the exact same flashlight (pill/reflector) with new styling that seems to be better quality than the original but pill/reflector is the same. Fasttech sells the nicest Trustfire 3t6 I've found with an stainless bezel. Here: https://m.fasttech.com/products/0/10000663/1059701-trustfire-tr-3t6-cree-xm-l-t6-3800lm-5-mode

The XMK for $22.77 at gearbest. This is the best one for the money:http://budgetlightforum.com/node/41533

 The $19.00 or so for the lixada seems like a great deal since it comes with the xml2s but it would be nice if it came with the extensions for 3s cells. Fasttech may have one.

I put dedomed XML-2 U4 1C's with an MTN26DD zener modded for 3s cells in all the ones I've modified. I omitted the p60 style ground spring by soldering on copper standoffs to the driver ground ring to make zero resistance contact with the tube. Bypassed springs, bypassed switch board and spring w/18awg drilled thru brass button. Copper spring contacts. Throw in some hot Samsung 25R's or E-fests and these things scream. You have to hold on tight when you first turn it on. They got a little kick to emwink

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I wanted to order one of them with 3 extensions BUT since they only come with 2 extensions I will pass ,thanks for the information

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Thanks for doing the review. Looks like a decent critter finder for the money.

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Glad to do it, YW

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I wanted to order one of them with 3 extensions BUT since they only come with 2 extensions I will pass ,thanks for the information

Have you tried to ask the seller?
Maybe is possible with a little extra.

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Manx, no I just went with information from RotoHead64 , and they will tell you please yes 3 extensions and then send you 2 so unless I hear different I will pass.

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https://m.fasttech.com/products/1630/10003254/1243102-extension-tube-for-wf-900-tr-1200-tr-500
Pretty sure this’ll work. Don’t know if the driver in the lixada is compatible with 3s cells though. I go for the Trustfire from fasttech. The last one I bought had XML-2’s. The stainless bezel model is nice.

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Yeah, wish I’d seen the SS bezel before I leaped. Oh well. Maybe I can make a new bezel for it…

TomTop sent the light FedEx yesterday, my first order from them, what can I expect?

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Thinking of buying one and dedoming it, locate a extension tube and a AR Coated lense. Plus possible o-ringing the shit out of it. But thats all I’d be capable of. I am still so new to the scene.

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Thinking of buying one and dedoming it, locate a extension tube and a AR Coated lense. Plus possible o-ringing the shit out of it. But thats all I’d be capable of. I am still so new to the scene.

If you buy it from TomTop, try to ask the seller if he can sell the 1×18650 tube extension too, so we see if they have or not.
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Thinking of buying one and dedoming it, locate a extension tube and a AR Coated lense. Plus possible o-ringing the shit out of it. But thats all I’d be capable of. I am still so new to the scene.
If you buy it from TomTop, try to ask the seller if he can sell the 1×18650 tube extension too, so we see if they have or not. Thank you very much Big Smile

If you will look closely at this picture you will see that the extension tube(s) will not fit the head of the light, as they are not made like the part of the tube that goes into the head.

Here is the tube in the single cell setup they are showing on their site, with one of my longest protected button tops in it. The tube is about 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 inches too long for a single cell to run.

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If you will look closely at this picture you will see that the extension tube(s) will not fit the head of the light, as they are not made like the part of the tube that goes into the head.

Ok,but now I’m confused…so, it only goes with 2×18650? No way to 3×18650 with the extension tube?
Sorry to ask you again, but I’ve not understand Blushing

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Here is the tube in the single cell setup they are showing on their site, with one of my longest protected button tops in it. The tube is about 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 inches too long for a single cell to run.

This is very clear. No way with only 1×18650…but like RotorHead64 said, it can work with a spacer.

Thank you so much again David, you are very kind.

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Yes it WILL work with 3 cells or 2 cells either way, just not with a single cell as they show it on the site.

It only came with the one extension tube, for 2 cell use, so you would need to see if they have the extra one for 3 cells configuration

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Robo, are you sure that extension is a single piece? I ask because none of makes sense, if a single cell is that much too short in the main tube, then 2 cells will really be short in the light with that long extension tube on it. In the picture above the extension is longer than the main, so, I’m seeing a line in the extension that is on the female end, looks kind of short. That should allow the use of 2 cells, the whole extension will do 3?

I wonder if 2 18500’s will fit in the one tube?

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Robo, are you sure that extension is a single piece? I ask because none of makes sense, if a single cell is that much too short in the main tube, then 2 cells will really be short in the light with that long extension tube on it. In the picture above the extension is longer than the main, so, I’m seeing a line in the extension that is on the female end, looks kind of short. That should allow the use of 2 cells, the whole extension will do 3?

I wonder if 2 18500’s will fit in the one tube?

There is a 3rd piece that allows for three cells Dale, another “short” extension piece, but I did not get the 3rd piece with this light.

Here are the 2 tubes that came with this particular light, you can see the main one is too long for a single cell, and the second “extension” piece is too short for a single cell. Together they make the right length for 2 cells though.

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Ah, I see… that short piece is what I was seeing attached to a full cell extension to make the 3 cells work, that’s what they’re showing in the picture. Got it.

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So you see the light now huh? Silly

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Boo! Rotten tomatoes, crusty lettuce, eggs, old XM-L’s on you! Silly

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1st 3 sec of your review. Hilarious..

 


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The flashlight is now “out of stock”.
Wow, this is the power of BLF Big Smile

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The flashlight is now “out of stock”. Wow, this is the power of BLF Big Smile

Guess it makes a pretty good host for a low price?

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I got the chance to have a look at robo819’s Trustfire version of this light yesterday. I like it! The fins are in exactly the right place, there’s enough mass up top to feel it when in the hand… almost feels like it’s already got some copper in it or something! (it doesn’t)

There are some places it can be improved on to bump it up in output of course, hey it’s an inexpensive light, you didn’t think they’d do everything for you did you? Straight stock with XM-L T6 emitters it made 1387 lumens. I played with it a bit, put some XM-L2 U2 1A’s in it that I’d pulled out of X6’s to make triples, used 16mm Noctigons, de-domed the emitters, stuck another resistor on the board and added 20ga leads. Simple stuff. Now it does 2443 lumens and has a tighter beam that shows me where a tree is back of my across-the-road neighbors place…. 534 yards away.

So it’s pretty easy to make it better, a more intensive approach can make it a LOT better. Smile

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“So it’s pretty easy to make it better, a more intensive approach can make it a LOT better”

Awaiting the final brainstorm here Dale.

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I got my Lixada today. That laser etching claiming 3800 lumens really bugged me. Wink

I tried it on one cell, worked ok at 3.73A, two cells made 2.09A, 3 cells, Oooops! current climbed and climbed and climbed and at 4.75A it blinked and I broke contact. After that it would only do .25A. Hmmm…

Driver had a capacitor loose, but I figured I’d go ahead and play. So…

I filled the big hollow pill with copper top to bottom, 24.83mm x 21.12mm with a 17mm driver bay cut in the back end. Soldered it on the hot plate to the brass press fit ring they had the driver soldered to. I cleared ano off the flats in the head and on top for the reflector and pill to make contact with bare metal. Used an FET+1 from Richard with A6 firmware and 20 ga leads. Pulled the XM-L2 emitters and put them on filed/fitted SinkPAD 20mm stars. Filed ano off all contact points from the tube/head, tube/ext tube, ext tube/tail cap… yes I kept the short tube because I like how it feels in the hand. Made a Delrin dummy cell and am using an Efest 3000mAh dark purple cell.

When I first took it out of the box it would do 1797 lumens on 2 cells. Now? It’s pulling 10.73A on the Efest and making 3946.35 lumens in turbo. Big Smile I’ll get a glass UCL lens and it should break 4000. Love it when a plan comes together!

Thanks for the head’s up Robo, liking this one quite a bit! Wink

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I knew you would come up with something, just didn’t know what.

You doubled the output so I would say mission accomplished.

Just need a few beamshots now to show what that bad boy is doing.

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I didn’t de-dome the emitters as I wanted larger light from it, I have throwers, this one will serve well as a walking light that can produce big huge output if needed.

Since I’m running it on a single 18650, some thought towards preserving cell life seems only appropro…

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Ok folks I also have the Trustfire TR-3T6 which is pretty much the same light with the same output as the Lixada 3800 Triple with both in stock form. I was wanting to know what these lights would do modded, but I have not modded a side switch light or tried anything with multiple cells yet so I was really hesitant to mess with this light.

Since the 2 lights are nearly identical, I sent my TR-3T6 over to Dale for a slight overhaul to see what kind of difference he could get out of it. This light was doing a disappointing 1389 lumens according to Dales meter when he got it, now with the tweaks he did (using stock driver and just tweaked it) and some dedomed XM-L2 emitters on Noctigons instead of the T6’s that came in it, the light is doing close to the rated 3800 lumens now with about double the amps it had stock.

As for the light that is coming out of it now?
Well I will let you be the judge of that with the beamshot comparisons below……….

Stock 50yds (High)

Modded 50yds (High)

Stock Gate 100yds

Modded gate 100yds

Stock 175yds

Modded 175yds

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Maxtoch M24 Sniper / Maxtoch 2X Shooter (2016 factory dedomed) , 2X - XHP 70.2 / Maxtoch Xsword / M1 Archer *** ### ThruNite // Archer 2A V3 / Ti4T / TN4A HI / TH10 / TH20 / C2 Mini / TC12 V2 / T01 /  , neutron 2C V3 , TC20 / Catapult V6 / TC15 / *** ###  Olight // H2R Nova , S10R III / S30R III / H1 Nova / H1 R Nova / X7 Marauder , PL Mini ,  M2R warrior //// Orca T11 / Nitecore EC20 / BLF A6 / Custom Convoy C8 / Lixada Triple 3800LM / Lixada 1000LM / LuxStone X30 / Manker E02 / Manker E14 II /  ### Thorfire /// PF03PF04 , Upgraded PF04 , C8 , S-50 ,  VG-10 , VG25 , C8s , BL30 , TK4A  , S1 , VG15 S  , TK 18 //// ##WowTac// A4 , A1 (original) , A2 headlamp , A3 //// Acebeam L16 /// Massdrop (Lumintop) Brass EDC

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