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I see in the OP it mentions that lube may be required. Can anyone recommend lube suitable for the Q8’s threads, especially products available in Australia? Thanks.

Try a local Ford dealer parts department. This XG-12 electrical grease is supposedly Nyogel 760G repackaged for Ford. 3oz tube was $15 dollars at my local dealer.

That is an interesting find RobertB, How did you find out that XG-12 = Nyogel 760g?

It tried looking up the MSDS for XG-12 but doesn’t appear to disclose what is it,

Here is the MSDS of XG-12
https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/main/msds/us184665us.pdf

The only reference to it being Nyogel comes from this thread
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/13394

Yes, that’s the thread that peaked my interest also. The OP confirmed it with Nye Chemical so he says. You could PM him and ask. I will say that Ford isn’t in the business of manufacturing Motorcraft oils, or lubricants, so they have to source it from somewhere. I have some Nyogel sitting right here, and comparing the two, I see, feel and smell no difference between the two. They look identical to me.

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I've been using a FORD tube of Nyogel for years now. It's on it's very last squeeze. I now remove the cap and dig in with a tool to pull out what I need. It was offered for sale here on BLF by a member a while back, think he got them off of eBay - little older batch but all good.

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You want an electrically conductive lubricant (“electrical” or bulb grease”) not an insulating lubricant.

Ask the Google: https://www.google.com/search?q=superlube+electrical+conducting

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www.super-lube.com/where-to-use-super-lube-ezp-160.html

Yes, Super Lube® has good electrical insulating properties

Probably not that one

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RobertB wrote:
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I see in the OP it mentions that lube may be required. Can anyone recommend lube suitable for the Q8’s threads, especially products available in Australia? Thanks.

Try a local Ford dealer parts department. This XG-12 electrical grease is supposedly Nyogel 760G repackaged for Ford. 3oz tube was $15 dollars at my local dealer.

That is an interesting find RobertB, How did you find out that XG-12 = Nyogel 760g?

It tried looking up the MSDS for XG-12 but doesn’t appear to disclose what is it,

Here is the MSDS of XG-12
https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/main/msds/us184665us.pdf

The only reference to it being Nyogel comes from this thread
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/13394

Yes, that’s the thread that peaked my interest also. The OP confirmed it with Nye Chemical so he says. You could PM him and ask. I will say that Ford isn’t in the business of manufacturing Motorcraft oils, or lubricants, so they have to source it from somewhere. I have some Nyogel sitting right here, and comparing the two, I see, feel and smell no difference between the two. They look identical to me.

Thank you for comparing it to the original labeled Nyogel, will order some.

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Thanks for the comparison shots! Smokes the S70! On the Q8 pict it would even seem “the trees are on fire” in the background! lol Big Smile
It looks very close to the S70 in my opinion. The most noticable difference was the Q8s brighter spill lighting. Is that what you were referring to?

Lovely beamshots Miguel_79 Smile

I’m now re-thinking whether I need (want) the Kronos 70 GB (S70 with higher power driver). Was expecting it to be a quite different animal from the Q8, for throw, but from your shots it seems the Q8 will cover both bases, at least well enough for me, in such a compact package.

PS: were your torches standard, or have you made a few improvements to any ?

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More Good Thread Lube Info for inquiring minds.
SuperLube has worked fine for me for years & I will continue using it. For any who might want info on other lubes… hope this helps.

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1807 preorders as of now.

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JorisFRST wrote:
Found a product that looks a bit like the no-ox-id :

Burndy P8A Oxide-Inhibiting Joint Compounds PENETROX

That looks like a compound maybe for assembling industrial electrical gear, petroleum based, and has suspended zinc particles in it to help conduction. I wouldn’t try it if wanting to use lockout. Interesting nevertheless maybe elsewhere inside torch (tail PCB to tube interface perhaps).

https://www.galco.com/buy/Burndy/P8A

I think any decent synthetic grease as previously mentioned is sufficient here, thread-lubrication and O-ring compatibility is top of my mind.

By the way “synthetic” doesn’t mean silicone based, it is probably a highly refined (chemically reconstructed) hydrocarbon material.

I generally use some bicycle grease with Teflon because already I have it to hand in a big tube, it is inexpensive, and it seems to do the job well enough. And it is a pretty red color Smile Not saying it’s the best though, not sure what the base material is, if it is a genuine “red grease” then it will be vegetable based, to throw another one into the discussion. It’s good stuff for bicycles, at least.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/weldtite-tf2-cycle-grease-with-teflon...

http://www.redrubbergrease.com

That Ford/Nyogel XG-12 = Nyogel 760g stuff looks interesting, I’ll see if my Ford dealer has it at a sensible price (not really planning on spending nearly half the price of a Q8 on a tube of grease).

https://www.nyelubricants.com/nyogel

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Haha TK Smile that’s what i use in my RC cars, and also what i put on the dry Q8 thread yesterday, i need more though cant be more than a few Sq CM in the tube.

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Found the original BLF thread on the Ford Nyogel: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/13394, $12 shipped, $15 retail sound bout right unfortunately.

So 5 years from my one tube ain't bad, considering my usage. Many times I strip it off, re-apply over and over again in modding/testing.

 

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1807?
That is sweet and a bit tricky at the same time.
I really like that BLF as a whole did order as much as were spoken for despite we know people have left BLF.
I remember it was pulling with reserve lists to get to the amount needed on other projects, so this is nice.

Of course a 99%-99.9% order rate would have been ideal, leaving more with a profit in it for Thorfire and Banggood. Making ~104% a bit tricky.

But well all in all very happy, also for the trust, when issues became clear people stocked to their pre order, very kind and nice.

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Codes seem to still be working! Must be a sign that Banggood and Thorfire are happy with their profit.

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I don’t see a pause after moonlight mode when turning on the light with a press & hold. For me it seems that it immediately starts ramping up and I need to ramp down to have the lowest output.
Is the pause duration at moonlight of the D4 the same as the Q8 ?
The moonlight is easy to catch with the D4 while I always miss it with the Q8.

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RapidLux wrote:
Codes seem to still be working! Must be a sign that Banggood and Thorfire are happy with their profit.
Hmmmm…. Seems like a very reasonable deduction.

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Found the original BLF thread on the Ford Nyogel: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/13394, $12 shipped, $15 retail sound bout right unfortunately.


So 5 years from my one tube ain’t bad, considering my usage. Many times I strip it off, re-apply over and over again in modding/testing.


 

I just found this Ford XG-12 / Nylogel on US Amazon, a couple of options: http://a.co/ec13aGP Around $16 from the Amazon mothership (not too many left) and $14 from an alternate seller. Saved me a trip to a car dealer.

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I was only three days away and this thread became greasy!
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Tally-ho wrote:
I don’t see a pause after moonlight mode when turning on the light with a press & hold. For me it seems that it immediately starts ramping up and I need to ramp down to have the lowest output. Is the pause duration at moonlight of the D4 the same as the Q8 ? The moonlight is easy to catch with the D4 while I always miss it with the Q8.

As I know it’s only a pause for easy catching, you can’t really see it on long distances.
But when you hold the hand a few centimeters in front of the lens, then it’s noticeable.
I estimate the pause is 500msec “long”

If you ramp down to moonlight with the hand close you can see also the same small flicker as in turbo, indicating end of the ramp.

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First of all, I am very glad that you liked the comparative, thank you all for commenting.

PBWilson wrote:
Holy Mackerel! The Q8 is a powerhouse! Nice comparison shots.
patmurris wrote:
Thanks for the comparison shots! Smokes the S70! On the Q8 pict it would even seem “the trees are on fire” in the background! lol Big Smile

Yes, devastates the S70, it is true that the S70 throws something more, but the Q8 gives quite more light, and the flood is impressive, in addition the tint is very nice, the combination of launch and flood of the Q8 along with the tint it has It’s love at first sight.

ImA4Wheelr wrote:

Wowser!  Impressive show Miguel_79.  Thank you


Ragsy wrote:
Great comparisons Miguel_79
Can’t wait !

strayz wrote:

Uhm… Wow..

May have to get another one…


The Miller wrote:

Nice shots Miguel!

MAD777 wrote:
Wow! Great beamshot comparison Miguel_79. The Q8 was stunning.

Your post also makes me want to go back to Spain again, it’s been 5 years. My wife’s grandparents are from beautiful Asturias.

How good to read that, I am from Galicia, a region similar to Asturias, both very beautiful. I wish I could visit your city, I’m sure is very pretty, too.

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Lovely beamshots Miguel_79 Smile

I’m now re-thinking whether I need (want) the Kronos 70 GB (S70 with higher power driver). Was expecting it to be a quite different animal from the Q8, for throw, but from your shots it seems the Q8 will cover both bases, at least well enough for me, in such a compact package.

PS: were your torches standard, or have you made a few improvements to any ?

I bet you do not need more range or flood than the Q8 can offer you. But of course, we always want more of everything XD

I was skeptical about Q8, I thought I would not be surprised. But I was wrong, I was surprised, and much, it creates a great blanket of light, and throws quite a lot too, and let’s not talk about UI, etc, and all for only $ 40, a must have.

My flashlights are standard, without modification.

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this is still what i get when i log on to my account
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Mine shows shipped, but it can’t be found on 17 Track, so I am sure it has not actually moved yet. – Not complaining, just wanted to let others know that even though we have a shipping notice, it has not actually left the building yet.

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Hang in there buddy!

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this seller on ebay is selling xg-12 for $16.99 or BO, i offered $12 delivered and it was accepted.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/263163689656

at this time he had 2 left.

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For those of you in the USA that do want to check Tracking of you Q8, but DO NOT know how… here is the proper procedure.

This procedure is only valid for USA orders that were shipped Priority Air Mail. The FREE Shipping option for this light. (It ‘might’ work for other counties… but I have no idea about this & cannot address that.)

  • 1. Get the Tracking Number of your order either from your Banggood Account or the Shipped email they will send you.
  • 2. Go here https://www.fedex.com/apps/fedextrack/ and enter the Tracking Number from step 1. Click Track. At this point it will probably say LABEL CREATED.
  • 3. Scroll down to SHIPMENT FACTS & get the Reference. This number will most likely begin with YT
  • 4. Then go here http://www.17track.net/en and enter the Reference from step 3. Click Track. Scroll down to see movement.

Once the package actually ships, movement will show in the tracking information on 17Track.
Do not be alarmed if your package sites in one place for 1 to 3 or 4 days, this just happens sometimes. It is just the way it is. Nothing to worry about.
DO NOT worry about what it says on the FEDEX Tracking. It will not show there until Fed Ex actually has the package, if then even.

17Track has been very reliable for these packages sent to the USA… all of mine have been 100%. More accurate then FedEx tracking by far.

While writing this I checked my last 2 Pre-Orders…. both above #1680… AND much to my surprise & shock they both actually show movement. It appears they have actually shipped, as in “left the building shipped”….. Shocked .. Wink
Will know for sure in a couple of day though.

So there it is if anyone likes to see where their package may be……
Enjoy.
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nqcken wrote:
this seller on ebay is selling xg-12 for $16.99 or BO, i offered $12 delivered and it was accepted.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/263163689656

at this time he had 2 left.

Thanks, I offered $12.50, let’s see what happens…

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Those who are nervous because the tracking on 17track does not work can try http://flytexpress.com/Index_En.aspx

Sorry for my bad English (gogole transtorla)

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djozz wrote:
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Output is a little low at around 5000lm at turn on with new wBT 30Q’s at 4.19v

LOL, 5000 lumen still isn’t ‘a little low’ in my perception, but calling it that shows how fast the flashlight developments go! Smile

Silly

A little low when some 6500ish lumens can be obtained with maybe 30 minutes of cleaning, light sanding, and a few solder joints. Smile

5000lm stock is quite significant. Heck I’ve only got 1 flashlight that puts out more light than the Q8 and it cost about 7 times as much.

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I’m not sure what this means, but they are moving around… maybe…

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joechina wrote:
As I know it’s only a pause for easy catching, you can’t really see it on long distances.
But when you hold the hand a few centimeters in front of the lens, then it’s noticeable.
I estimate the pause is 500msec “long”

If you ramp down to moonlight with the hand close you can see also the same small flicker as in turbo, indicating end of the ramp.


I did a factory reset and now both D4 and Q8 are fonctionning the same way with a click & hold from OFF.

Before the factory reset, when I was doing a click & hold at the same time on both flashlights, the D4 was turning ON on moonlight almost instantly and after the “moonlight + pause” it was ramping up. The Q8 was turning ON after a longer delay directly to ramp up without “moonlight + pause”.
I probably disabled the moonlight (but there is no way to do it in the manual) so I probably set it to the lowest level by mistake. It seems that the emitters weren’t even emitting light at this lowest moonlight.

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hank wrote:
You want an electrically conductive lubricant ("electrical" or bulb grease") not an insulating lubricant. Ask the Google: https://www.google.com/search?q=superlube+electrical+conducting
Quote:
www.super-lube.com/where-to-use-super-lube-ezp-160.html Yes, Super Lube® has good electrical insulating properties
Probably not that one

 

I'd be interested if anyone shows so called "conductive" grease actually improving their case connection.  Any low viscosity grease should be fine and conductive greases are not standard for such applications in my experience.

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