Q6/Q8 How many emitters build in it?

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Q6/Q8 How many emitters build in it?
#1 Use 3 or 4 I don't care, as long as this BLF special becomes a reality!
38% (55 votes)
#2 Use 3 I do not really mind 4
5% (7 votes)
#3 Use 3 I hate to see 4
1% (1 vote)
#4 Use 3 I did not want on the interest list when it was announced having 4
0% (0 votes)
#5 Use 4 I do not really mind 3
31% (45 votes)
#6 Use 4 I hate to see 3
15% (22 votes)
#7 Use 4 I asked to be put on the interest list when 4 was announced, will NOT buy it with just 3
5% (8 votes)
#8 I am not interested in the Q6/Q8, do not want to get it for sure, but I like to be able to vote in polls anyway.
5% (8 votes)
Total votes: 146
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A feeler
Yes we said 4 LEDs
But we want to feel BLF because 1 emitter less, 1 DTP star less, 4 solder actions less, a screwhole in the integrated shelf less and a screw action to fix the dtp star to the shelf less.
This would make the light cheaper to produce and mod.

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Awesome Poll! I like how you included the last option for those people that we know exist! Wink

Edit: As can already be seen, choice number one is going to be the clear winner of this poll. However, choice number one will not tell you anything. So, it will ultimately have to be overlooked and the choice that includes an actual preference and has the next largest amount of votes will have to be the deciding factor.

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Heheh about #8 Wink
Added #X to the options so we can talk easier about them without the need to count them

Yes David, #3, #4, #6 and #7 do feel slightly more important but in the end this is a feeler not a binding election Wink

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The Miller wrote:

Yes we said 4 LEDs
But we want to feel BLF because 1 emitter less, 1 DTP star less, 4 solder actions less, a screwhole in the integrated shelf less and a screw action to fix the dtp star to the shelf less.
This would make the light cheaper to produce and mod.

Does this translate to a new price point below $40 with 3 emitters or above $40 with four emitters?
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The Miller wrote:
Heheh about #8 Wink
Added #X to the options so we can talk easier about them without the need to count them

Yes David, #3, #4, #6 and #7 do feel slightly more important but in the end this is a feeler not a binding election Wink


I wasn’t complaining, just stating my observation! Innocent Like I said, I really like the way you did this poll!
But my guess is that the one guy that voted #6 is probably one of the guys that wanted 10,000+ lumens too! Just a hunch. Silly

Edit: Two for #6 now. Not a bad choice really, but okay. We each have our own opinion…

Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone.
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DavidEF wrote:
The Miller wrote:
Heheh about #8 Wink
Added #X to the options so we can talk easier about them without the need to count them

Yes David, #3, #4, #6 and #7 do feel slightly more important but in the end this is a feeler not a binding election Wink


I wasn’t complaining, just stating my observation! Innocent Like I said, I really like the way you did this poll!
But my guess is that the one guy that voted #6 is probably one of the guys that wanted 10,000+ lumens too! Just a hunch. Silly

Edit: Two for #6 now. Not a bad choice really, but okay. We each have our own opinion…


HAHA Nope! Wink I voted for 4! If 4 xhp50 it’ll be awesome! I wouldn’t mind 3 TBH…

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so can bones.

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Lilien wrote:
Does this translate to a new price point below $40 with 3 emitters or above $40 with four emitters?

No, this translates into a feeler if we as Q-Team could maybe change the number of LEDs to 3 to reduce costs and keep it possible to make a Q6/Q8 for the price of $40 including shipping.
Do understand the only good stock soupcan light in below $55 range is the Supfire M6 with 3 LEDs and good luck getting one shipped to you for $40,-
With a driver option less cool and versatile then we envision t would set you back ~$100 without shipping so….

So we are making it very hard for ourselves and I wanted to know if there is a little wiggle space to cut costs.

(See how sneaky I add the Q6 as name for a 3LED version, fitting a smaller Q5 (AA sized) and Q4 (AAA sized) and Q7 (26650 sized) right along with this 3 emitter feeler ;))

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I put #5, more lumens for less heat with 4 led, my preference Innocent
but less cost with 3, especially if replacing the leds, my wallets preference Cash

Cheers David

Nothing to see here folks, move along...

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The Miller wrote:
Lilien wrote:
Does this translate to a new price point below $40 with 3 emitters or above $40 with four emitters?

No, this translates into a feeler if we as Q-Team could maybe change the number of LEDs to 3 to reduce costs and keep it possible to make a Q6/Q8 for the price of $40 including shipping.
Do understand the only good stock soupcan light in below $55 range is the Supfire M6 with 3 LEDs and good luck getting one shipped to you for $40,-
With a driver option less cool and versatile then we envision t would set you back ~$100 without shipping so….

So we are making it very hard for ourselves and I wanted to know if there is a little wiggle space to cut costs.

(See how sneaky I add the Q6 as name for a 3LED version, fitting a smaller Q5 (AA sized) and Q4 (AAA sized) and Q7 (26650 sized) right along with this 3 emitter feeler ;))

I voted #6 actually, just because I prefer the look of 4 LEDs, however I would be happy with 3. And I did not actually think about this.

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Welcome Lion42 LOL

Is it just me or is this light getting a good number of lurkers new members to join Party

Cheers David

Nothing to see here folks, move along...

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Welcome to BLF Lion42!
Yes pommie at least a couple of new members dedicated their first post Q6/Q8 related.

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I put #6, hate 3 leds flashlights

“We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.

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Rest assure, the focus and aim is a quad led!

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[X] I have no idea.

Any clues why as to why choose more/less emitters? I guess overall output doesn’t change so much? Is it the beam pattern? More/less flood?

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3 emitter lights are just odd.

(But so are 5, 7, and 9 emitter lights.) Smile

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How can I choose without photos of each? I guess I need to rack down photos . . .

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MauiSon wrote:
How can I choose without photos of each? I guess I need to rack down photos . . .

is there such thread where multi-LED reflectors are discussed ?
that would be great to know how it influences beamshots at least in theory.
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MauiSon wrote:
How can I choose without photos of each? I guess I need to rack down photos . . .

Click
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/934603#comment-934603
4 gives more flood and a wider center beam
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I’m curious which setup would be the most efficient/produce the most lumens per watt.

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The same drive current spread across more emitters would be slightly more efficient because each led would see less current and led’s are more efficient at lower drive currents. Less emitters in the same space should throw farther because they have larger diameter optics and a higher surface brightness due to the higher drive current.

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Okay, I went with option #5. I like the look of the 4 emitter reflector and I like the efficiency of spreading the current to more emitters. However, I don’t want to see the price go up as a result of choosing 4 over 3 emitters. It’s a balancing act, for sure.

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Hmm… how much efficiency/throw difference can be expected between a design with 3 emitters vs 4 emitters, everything else being the same?

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HOOP explains it very well I think

4 is a real nice fillup of space and more flood by design and our aim and goal.

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Hoop wrote:
The same drive current spread across more emitters would be slightly more efficient because each led would see less current and led’s are more efficient at lower drive currents. Less emitters in the same space should throw farther because they have larger diameter optics and a higher surface brightness due to the higher drive current.

Thanks for this. Four emitters it is Smile
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pommie wrote:
Welcome Lion42 LOL

Is it just me or is this light getting a good number of lurkers new members to join Party

Cheers David

^^^ Heh, ^^^ right here, talkin me and my ilk:-) Actually, as a lurker I saw the BLF A6 get done and wanted in on this one. And as a new former lurker have little to say except that I’m confident that what gets communally chosen by folks both crazier about FL and also much smarter than I on this will be fantastic, so I’m rolling with pick #1 all the way.

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Very well said, and appreciated Couchmaster. And a

 

Super Big Welcome!

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Thanks for the super big welcome. I have to add that the poll was one of the more interesting, practical and also humorous ones I’ve seen. Thanks for that and the work that is going into this that I’m going to lazily piggyback on.

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I would have voted for seven.

Flashlight designers should look at lighthouses and pottery.
这些谁设计的手电筒应该看灯塔,以及在陶器。