Muto Review: OrcaTorch T11 AA EDC XP-G2 Updated Beamshots

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Muto Review: OrcaTorch T11 AA EDC XP-G2 Updated Beamshots

★★★★
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Price: Reg price $49.95 Sale Price $39.98, Buy Now from here!

https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Military-ORCATORCH-Flashlight-Resistant/dp/B01G86KX5G/184-3669132-4129751?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
From: OrcaTorch shipped from Amazon

Battery 1 X AA
Switch Reverse Clicky
Modes Low, Medium, High, Turbo, Strobe and SOS, always resets to Low after 5 seconds
Lens AR Glass
Tailstands Yes!

Pros
Nice and Bright
Great Low with no visible PWM
Small and Lightweight
Nice Pure White Tint
Great Flawless Smooth Reflector, no Rings in Beam
Good Build and Nice Anodizing
Strong Clip

Cons
Head is glued
14500 Li-Ion not supported
No Mode Memory

OK folks, Here is the New OrcaTorch T11
This is the new AA Model with an advertised 190 lumen output on Turbo and very usable lower modes, all without any detectable dreaded PWM that I could see. I tried it against a Box Fan as well as running water and can so no flickering/strobe action, so that is a welcome thing.
This is a very nice small High Performance AA flashlight with very good output, Great build quality with plenty of well cut threads on the tail cap and it came well lubed. Has nice thermal management and light weight.
Anodizing is superb and it has a nice feel in the hand. Modes are in this order, Low, Med, High, Turbo, Strobe & SOS with no memory and it always starts in Low.
It has a very nice Turbo, High is just a small amount lower in visible light to conserve power, Medium is just that medium but the real treat here is a very nice usable Low mode, a good 10 lumen output for reading a Map in the car without having the dome light on.
Tint is nice Pure White and beam is a nice hot spot with fade into nice corona.
The nice Strong Deep Carry Clip is also a great touch. Came with a nice belt holster, AA Battery, lanyard and extra O rings.

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In closing this is a well built EDC light that is tuned for AA use and is well regulated and steps down as voltage drops. It’s a Tough little piece that has just the right size to it and performs well. If the head were not glued and it had mode memory I would call it perfect.
With the 2 Year warranty it shows that the manufacturer believes in their product, they didn’t build a cheap flashlight, they built a Durable Well Built flashlight.
Open disclaimer, I received a discount in exchange for a fair and honest review, Thanks to OrcaTorch for the opportunity.
Hope you enjoy the review and make sure to get one while they are on sale.

So sorry, Beam shots ended up with bad white balance, my fault with wrong camera settings, will update pics tomorrow.
Edit 7/1/2016 Beam shots updated, this is as close as possible with my camera to what you see in person. Still more green than actual.

Thanks!
Keith

“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it sometimes rhymes,” Mark Twain

After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards
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Big Sky Country

Edited by: Muto on 07/01/2016 - 23:17
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Thanks for the review…
Awful Pure Green Tint.

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quetzalcoatl wrote:
Thanks for the review… Awful Pure Green Tint.

No, bad white balance on cheap camera, I should have tried different setting, sorry.
I’ll try again tonight.

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Seems pricey for what they’re offering.

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Muto… I received one as well. I completely agree with your summation. I will not be posting a review here as it would be identical to yours. I did post the first review on Amazon, if anyone is interested.

I really like it. 14500 and memory would make it just darn near perfect!

EDC rotation:
FW1A, LH351D 4000k (second favorite)
FW3A, LH351D 3500k
FW3A, SST20 FD2 4000k
FW3A, Nichia 4000k sw40 r9080 (favorite light!)
FW3A, Cree XP-L Hi 5A3
Emisar D4V2, SST20 4000k
S2+, XM-L2 T6 4C

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mattlward wrote:
Muto… I received one as well. I completely agree with your summation. I will not be posting a review here as it would be identical to yours. I did post the first review on Amazon, if anyone is interested.

I really like it. 14500 and memory would make it just darn near perfect!

Thanks Matt!

I new whoever posted it on Amazon was well versed on flashlights and thought it may be a member from here but wasn’t sure who it was.

And to member greenlight’s point, it is not a cheap flashlight but that was not their intent. It is glued like the Zebralights, so it is not intended to be mod friendly by the Mfg. That can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on the users skill level.
I must say it is darn hard to get most flashlights apart without getting some dust on the reflector and once it’s there….

Anyway it is what it is.
Thanks
Keith

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After the Apocalypse there will be only 2 things left alive, Cockroaches and Keith Richards
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mattlward wrote:
Muto… I received one as well. I completely agree with your summation. I will not be posting a review here as it would be identical to yours. I did post the first review on Amazon, if anyone is interested.

I really like it. 14500 and memory would make it just darn near perfect!

+1
A little over priced but nice.

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Nice review!
On first beamshot picture, I thought the lines were PWM Big Smile

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At a first glance this should cost about $20-$25…almost $40 is too expensive.

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Thanks for the review, Muto. Picture #6 had me confused for a while; thought this light has a head spring (+ve) as well! (does it?)

Cheers.

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dhvl1357 wrote:
Thanks for the review, Muto. Picture #6 had me confused for a while; thought this light has a head spring (+ve) as well! (does it?)

Cheers.

No head spring, here is picture down the throat as it were. Brass colored contacts.

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HTH
Thanks again!
Keith

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Mine hasn’t arrived yet, still waiting.

Question, you say “ well regulated and steps down as voltage drops”
does that mean a low voltage warning stepdown? Or a slow decrease in brightness as the battery gets drained?

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Thanks for the review.

 

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I put a Keepower 3.7V 14500 in mine and it works just fine.

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How much did you all pay for the torch with the promise to review it?

They sold me one for $5 from Amazon.

This was the first time I’d been offered a discount on a purchase with the agreement to review it.

I pointed out part of their description was copied from a different manufacturer of a 4AA flashlight.
They replied

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Our Amzon colleague write TN4A intented, because according to Amazon policy it will add our light’s exposure opportunity.

and later
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this new light can be searched on Amzon only after it got more than 20 reviews….

That seemed bogus. Anyone know? I wondered who’s giving them advice about how to sell on Amazon.

I wrote an honest review at some length, stating what I paid and what I thought needed improvement and why.

They asked me to change it after I posted it, for reasons I won’t (yet) post here, but I wonder if anyone else had such happen.

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I have been too busy to post my review. I paid $5 as well. This is a $20 light at most. It isn’t a good tactical light because it starts on low and has a reverse click switch. I am wondering if this “review plan” of theirs is not going well.

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bikenber73 wrote:
I put a Keepower 3.7V 14500 in mine and it works just fine.

How long has it worked fine??? Brightness increase?

EDC rotation:
FW1A, LH351D 4000k (second favorite)
FW3A, LH351D 3500k
FW3A, SST20 FD2 4000k
FW3A, Nichia 4000k sw40 r9080 (favorite light!)
FW3A, Cree XP-L Hi 5A3
Emisar D4V2, SST20 4000k
S2+, XM-L2 T6 4C

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hank wrote:
How much did you all pay for the torch with the promise to review it?

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All in all I have run it for an hour. Not straight for one hour. The brightness didn’t really impress me, I have no real way to measure it.

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The specs for the price are still good if you look at other brands like LED-lenser similiar output for about the same money but this is built better.

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The specs for the price are still good if you look at other brands like LED-lenser similiar output for about the same money but this is built better.

Agreed, but not a true budget light and not a good mod candidate. I have tried fairly hard to open mine and it is just glued to well. I have not tried placing the head in solvent yet, may be the next step. Has a very good beam profile, just needs more lumens and a good driver.

EDC rotation:
FW1A, LH351D 4000k (second favorite)
FW3A, LH351D 3500k
FW3A, SST20 FD2 4000k
FW3A, Nichia 4000k sw40 r9080 (favorite light!)
FW3A, Cree XP-L Hi 5A3
Emisar D4V2, SST20 4000k
S2+, XM-L2 T6 4C

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everydaysurvivalgear wrote:
The specs for the price are still good if you look at other brands like LED-lenser similiar output for about the same money but this is built better.

Agreed, but not a true budget light and not a good mod candidate. I have tried fairly hard to open mine and it is just glued to well. I have not tried placing the head in solvent yet, may be the next step. Has a very good beam profile, just needs more lumens and a good driver.

I think for a single AA battery the light is on the higher side being 190 lumens. Also to do this the driver must be good from a single AA battery maybe using a different emitter you could probably squeeze out a few more lumens….

Being glued its not meant to be touched i guess. Maybe gluing it makes it more usable from a IPX rating perspective. I gave my mate some hugsby XP1s to use and he has broken 2 of them already by dropping them. I took one apart and it was the boost converter circuit the transformer breaks of. Maybe gluing the head gives it extra strength…

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Hello Hank,
Thanks for your review and suggestion about our T11. Here are my answer for question,

1. Why we need reviews on Amzon?
It’s according to Amazon training course and searching rules.There are a large number of American make Amazon reviews for living.
chinese sellers have to do it……
Our company thought BLF members are flashlight specialist, so hope get yours reviews and suggestions to updating our light.

2.About paid $5
We have to say we never want profit from it,our shipping fee is already higher than $5.

3.About change reviews.
Sorry for this problem, 4 star is OK. But it’s really not friendly that write under our light you only paid $5.
What would other consumers thought about T11?

4.TN4A bogus?
We admit our Amazon colleague is newbie. BLF members who have made our WR10 reviews know we even don’t know how to set right Amazon code last time.
So we have corrected this mistake after your point it. Thanks your remind. Hat
Except TN4A and T11 are AA lights, what any other similarities between them?

Besides, we can sure next T11 version will can powered by 14500 battery, and hide strobe&SOS (or add memory function).

Sincere thanks for all members suggestion, OrcaTorch is more good at diving flashlight, but we will try to design better flashlight with yours help.

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Silly Looking forward to your review. And I will feedback maybe forward switch is better.

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Amazon allows sale at low price to people who agree to write reviews. That’s their official published review.

Someone who gets a product for $5 or $1 has to work harder not to be “bought” and write a fake review hoping to get a better price next time.

I tell the truth. If that means I don’t get offered a review flashlight next time — that’s fine. Because I try to write clearly everything that affects the review.

I am sure you don’t need to worry about “five star” reviews.

Look at this one:
https://www.amazon.com/LumiTact-Tactical-G700-TM-Flashlight/dp/B01DPS6LAG

Very mixed reviews. Grossly overpriced for a bad flashlight. Made in China. Sold everywhere under many names, always for far more than it’s worth.
Amazon is happy selling that sort of thing.

You need to get reviews, and it’s perfectly OK to give discounts to get the flashlight into reviewers’ hands.
Both Amazon’s rule and the US Federal Trade Commission rule say that the reviewer should clearly disclose how they got the product and that they agreed to do the review as compensation.

Amazon is trying very hard now to clean out their reviews and get rid of the “all five star” fake reviews they featured for many years, when they allowed paid reviews without question.

Amazon wants honest reviews that disclose negative and positive comments, and disclose that you gave a discount or something to someone who agreed to give you a review once they used the light.

Amazon wants to put an end to fake reviews being bought or reviewers giving all positive reviews in order to keep getting discounts.

I think you’ll do fine if you make the first version of the light an example — gets mixed reviews, you come out with version 2 and everyone can say, this one is better, they listened and fixed problems.

To show improvement, you have to first show honestly what the problems were — to show what changed.

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BTW, 1.35 amps on high with an XTAR 14500… not bad and is considerably brighter. Does not get hot, so either poor thermal performance or just not hard enough driven.

EDC rotation:
FW1A, LH351D 4000k (second favorite)
FW3A, LH351D 3500k
FW3A, SST20 FD2 4000k
FW3A, Nichia 4000k sw40 r9080 (favorite light!)
FW3A, Cree XP-L Hi 5A3
Emisar D4V2, SST20 4000k
S2+, XM-L2 T6 4C

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hank wrote:
Amazon allows sale at low price to people who agree to write reviews. That’s their official published review.

Someone who gets a product for $5 or $1 has to work harder not to be “bought” and write a fake review hoping to get a better price next time.

I tell the truth. If that means I don’t get offered a review flashlight next time — that’s fine. Because I try to write clearly everything that affects the review.

I am sure you don’t need to worry about “five star” reviews.

Look at this one:
https://www.amazon.com/LumiTact-Tactical-G700-TM-Flashlight/dp/B01DPS6LAG

Very mixed reviews. Grossly overpriced for a bad flashlight. Made in China. Sold everywhere under many names, always for far more than it’s worth.
Amazon is happy selling that sort of thing.

You need to get reviews, and it’s perfectly OK to give discounts to get the flashlight into reviewers’ hands.
Both Amazon’s rule and the US Federal Trade Commission rule say that the reviewer should clearly disclose how they got the product and that they agreed to do the review as compensation.

Amazon is trying very hard now to clean out their reviews and get rid of the “all five star” fake reviews they featured for many years, when they allowed paid reviews without question.

Amazon wants honest reviews that disclose negative and positive comments, and disclose that you gave a discount or something to someone who agreed to give you a review once they used the light.

Amazon wants to put an end to fake reviews being bought or reviewers giving all positive reviews in order to keep getting discounts.

I think you’ll do fine if you make the first version of the light an example — gets mixed reviews, you come out with version 2 and everyone can say, this one is better, they listened and fixed problems.

To show improvement, you have to first show honestly what the problems were — to show what changed.

Big Smile Many thanks Hans, we just a little worry about when comsumer see you get it at $5, then they all want get it at that price….. Your review is really very good!!!I’ve translated it into Chinese to our engineers. Blushing

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Thanks, Keith, for the effort you put into your review. Looks like a solid light.

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bikenber73 wrote:
I put a Keepower 3.7V 14500 in mine and it works just fine.

Was it any brighter? my jetbeam 1mk is about 190lumen with a AA, and 450 lumen with a 14500.

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Robert, it is brighter… I would guess 50 to 60%, but no way to measure it. It does either have thermal or timed step down. I am leaning toward thermal… I am testing now for low voltage detection or shut down.

EDC rotation:
FW1A, LH351D 4000k (second favorite)
FW3A, LH351D 3500k
FW3A, SST20 FD2 4000k
FW3A, Nichia 4000k sw40 r9080 (favorite light!)
FW3A, Cree XP-L Hi 5A3
Emisar D4V2, SST20 4000k
S2+, XM-L2 T6 4C

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