EDC-Light 3x XHP-35 HI NW (3x 26650/18650)

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EDC-Light 3x XHP-35 HI NW (3x 26650/18650)

EDC-Light 3x XHP-35 HI NW

 

 

Summary:

Battery:

 3x 26650 (18650 can be used, but no spacer was included)

Switch:  Reverse Tailcap Clicky
Modes:

 Turbo - Medium - Low 

Mode Memory:  Off-time (2 seconds).      
LED Type:  3x XHP-35 HI NW
Lens:  Glass 
Reflector:  Aluminum - Smooth
Price:  $95
Provided by:  CNQG

 

Function: 

Standard reverse clicky switch operation. 

Full click on. Half press for mode change. Turbo - Medium - Low. Full click to turn off the flashlight.

  

All throw measurements are lux values taken at 7ft and calculated back to 1 meter (Rounded to the nearest hundred). Estimated output (Lumen) values are calculated based on measurements obtained through a DIY 'pvc lumen tube' in an effort to achieve diffusion of dissimilar beam profiles. As such, these values should be taken as "rough approximations."

 

 

One of the bigger issues with the EDC-Light Triple XHP-50 was a very unstable driver. This has been fixed with the Triple XHP-35 version with a greatly improved driver. The turbo mode maintains the max output of ~4800lm for about 60 seconds then begins to gradually step down (during the next minute) to a 'High mode' of about 3650lm.

 

 

After the stepdown to 'high' the flashlight maintains the roughly 3650 lumens until the 60 minute point after which it drops out of regulation and hits the low voltage warning (LVW) at 65 minutes. The LVW, which is a constant slow flashing, can be ignored if one so desires by simply half pressing the tailcap switch. 

This new driver allows the user to jump back up to turbo at any point during the life of the batteries.

At the 9 minute mark the temperature is 137°F at the hottest point in the head (A small fan was activated moments later and ran for the remainder of the test). Ideally the driver should have throttled back the output before this point, but that doesn't appear to be a function of this particular driver. Granted, this is a very poor situation for a flashlight to be operated in. The ambient temperature is 80°F with little to no air movement and the flashlight is head-standing on a piece of glass inside a PVC lumen tube. Normally a hand would be acting as both a heatsink and an early warning system of the flashlight potentially getting too hot.

 

 

Pictures:

 If you're skimming around you might be having some Déjà vu. No I haven't gone insane and reviewed the same flashlight twice...

 

There's two!

They are practically identical except where it really matters as previously detailed above.

 

There are the three XHP-35 HI NW emitters.

 

These are the XHP-50 emitters from the previous sample.

 

The driver for those XHP-35 HI NW emitters.

 

 

Comparison:

I brought out my heavier hitters for a large variety of size, emitters, reflectors, throw, and output. Each is estimated above 2000 lumens with the BTU Shocker on the upper end with an estimated 4000lm+ output.


Convoy S2+ Triple XPG2 (11A DirectDrive), Roche M170, Quad LED + Handle, Maglite MTG2 (5A), Notorious HID, Nitecore TM16, BTU Shocker (XPL-HI, 5.7A DirectDrive), EDC-Light Triple XHP-50

 

I pulled the 3 other multi-well reflector lights for closer comparison. 

 

 

Beamshots:

 The first set is single emitter lights of varying outputs and with the Cometa and K50v2 having throw values similar to the EDC XHP-35 HI. The location is approximately 150 yards to the top of the tree.

 

 

The second set is a more fair output comparison between large multi-emitter flashlights.

 

 

EDC-Light Triple XHP-35 HI NW modes: Turbo - Medium - Low

 

 

Conclusion:

This EDC-Light 3x XHP-35 HI NW is a vast improvement over the previous XHP-50 sample I reviewed. This one did arrive with a similarly dirty lens and dirty threads; however, the finish is pristine, the reflector looks better, and the lens and threads are easily cleaned.

The primary improvement is the very stable and well regulated driver. This driver allows for a very high output and a re-accessible turbo mode. The downside of this high output is the amount of heat generated. Thus, this is not a flashlight to be placed on the ground or propped up and left on while in turbo or the high stepdown.

Overall, I think the EDC-Light Triple XHP-35 HI is a nice flashlight. It throws a lot of light a respectable distance downrange. Build quality is still great with the same integrated shelf and lots of mass to help deal with the heat.

Edited by: unknown00101 on 07/14/2016 - 00:25
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What a beast….but EDC???

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Thanks for the review.

My current and or voltage measurements are only relevent to anything that I measure.

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Yes, thanks for the review!

...but, 3 x 26650 ≠ EDC.  :D

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Nice light!!!

Anyone notice how “EDC” lights seem to be getting bigger and bigger? Innocent

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Nice review… thanx! I woud not want to carry this big guy in my pocket. Smile

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Isn’t EDC-Light.com a website of BLF-member Ric-CN? We all know from cnqualitygoods.com?
In that case EDC-Light is a brand name and not an indication that you can order a (very) deep pocket clip for it.

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Yes Henk4u2 it says provided by CNQG so a link between Ric and brand EDC is not unlogical

Having the brand called EDC and then make these big monsters is actuality very funny IMHO.

I like the looks of this light
Thanks for sharing!

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I’m disappointed in the performance of this. The light is quite large and expensive, but the output is not great. For this price, you start considering lights like the TM16GT, which is much smaller and lighter, but will throw further. If this were half the price, it would be interesting.

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bugsy wrote:
I’m disappointed in the performance of this. The light is quite large and expensive, but the output is not great. For this price, you start considering lights like the TM16GT, which is much smaller and lighter, but will throw further. If this were half the price, it would be interesting.

The TM16GT is shorter, lighter and if on par with my Tm16 then better overall quality; however it is a fair bit more expensive even after deep discounts and output is in the favor of the EDC.

TM16GT’s output, around 3600lm and 250kcd
EDC Triple XHP 35 HI 4800lm 205kcd.

With these high output lights 45kcd is pretty tough to see especially in person.

The GT output drops constantly being direct drive in turbo, this EDC holds a very respectable 3650lm for the duration of the battery life, but maintains a re-accessible turbo as well.

For under $100 I haven’t come across anything that really rivals the output of the EDC-Light Triple XHP-35 HI. The BTU Shocker II might do just that if it is offered with XHP-35 HI, but I expect it will be quite a bit more than $100.

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I would argue that 25% increase in lux is MUCH more noticeable that 33% increase in lumens.

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I like it any chance we could get a group buy on it?

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Great light! But as a triple XHP-35 HI light I wish it can be driven harder – Probably 6000+ lumens and >350kcd on Turbo mode and that is one helluva light monster.

Maybe it is due to some technical limitations that the driver cannot be made to deliver high current or else it will be burnt… but maybe some driver experts in BLF can offer advice/design that can achieve such (which I believe is highly possible), or simply make the driver diameter bigger so that it can take some “tougher” components on it.

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Wow iam glad you had betyer luck than i did i oredered about 2 years ago from cnq (RICK)their triple xhp 70 ersion actually 2 of them one for myself and one for my friend and they were totally fried right out if the box see post: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/40030 and Vesture _of _blood had to rebuild both when he tolk th aprt from Rick therebwore held together with electrical tape

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The Miller wrote:
Yes Henk4u2 it says provided by CNQG so a link between Ric and brand EDC is not unlogical

Having the brand called EDC and then make these big monsters is actuality very funny IMHO.

I like the looks of this light
Thanks for sharing!

i have this light with a dd fet driver and 2each dedomed xpl v6’s if anyone is interested it is a neutral thrower i have a 3 mode on it id be willing to part with at a reasonable

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It’s EDC if you’re a giant 25’ tall.

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Hi guys:

I just got this light and only 2 LEDs light up at full brightness while the 3rd LED lights up but really dim, its way too expensive to send the light back for a replacement so I have decided to repair it myself. However I need to know what replacement driver to buy and where to get it. I can see that some of you have modded the light with a better driver, could you provide some details as to how and where to get the improved driver? I have basic soldering skills but not much knowledge about electronics. So whatever advice you can provide will be much appreciated.

Thanks.

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Vesture of blood from adventure sport flashlights had to rebuild mine and my buddies light ,the same exact light from CNQG read http://budgetlightforum.com/node/40030

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I don’t think I would consider buying anything produced or sold by ric / edc-light / cnqualitygoods company ever again.

I ordered a light from their edc-light.com website last year, paid with paypal. No order confirmation came. A week or two later I followed up with contact forms and via paypal, just to make sure my order was entered and was coming. I eventually found an email address “edc-light@vip.126.com” and sent an inquiry there. A few days later I received a message saying that:“It’s ok. We will ship out the order tomorrow. Thanks RIC”. I waited another month and reached out again but never received a response.

I ended up getting my money back through paypal, “Ric” never even attempted to dispute it or say that he shipped the light at all. It sure seemed to me that he took my money while never planning on shipping anything, hoping perhaps that I would leave it until after my paypal protection expired or something. One of the very few negative experiences I have buying items from Chinese vendors, I hope others can avoid being scammed by this company.

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Yeah sounds very familiar with Ric

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Im trying to get one unit of this to see if its really as bright and as good as it seems. For close to 7000lumens ‘on spec’ and xhp35 Hi which gives the best throwing ability in a generous 3x ~40mm est deep smooth reflector, this seems like the true beast over the L6 which is disappointing to me because L6 uses op reflector and xhp70 domed led which severely affects maximum led throw potential. i would prefer a xhp35hi in the L6 with smo but since this EDC real beast already have 3x xhp35hi…..this is by far …..the most powerful budget sub100usd led throwing beast indeed atleast on paper. Thumbs Up

Of course it not hard to squeeze 4 xhp35hi with a 4 18650 compact combo which is even better due to 18650×4 runtime and side by side size options but no one made anything like it yet ,sub100 usd. Cash

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Hi fatlight,if i were you knowing what i know i wouldnot get this light my 2 friends and i bought the edc wit 3 xhp70’s with a claimed 12000 lumens well all lights arrived doa andRic did not want to warranty rhem so and one of my friends had to send to Vesture_of_blood he found the reflector holes too small and damaged the domes ,splices in wire fasnted by electrical tape and alot of other manufacturing issuesand my other friend sent his light to Dale who found a lot of shoddy workmanship,.Have you thought of the Pallight Boss1 modded with an xhp35 that outthrows the new hailing factory throw king the ThruniniteTM 42 ?Any just a fair warning and apissible ootion ,goodluck in whichever you decide.

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light junkie wrote:
Hi fatlight,if i were you knowing what i know i wouldnot get this light my 2 friends and i bought the edc wit 3 xhp70’s with a claimed 12000 lumens well all lights arrived doa andRic did not want to warranty rhem so and one of my friends had to send to Vesture_of_blood he found the reflector holes too small and damaged the domes ,splices in wire fasnted by electrical tape and alot of other manufacturing issuesand my other friend sent his light to Dale who found a lot of shoddy workmanship,.Have you thought of the Pallight Boss1 modded with an xhp35 that outthrows the new hailing factory throw king the ThruniniteTM 42 ?Any just a fair warning and apissible ootion ,goodluck in whichever you decide.

Hi lightjunkie, yea i agree ,the Boss1 is da mega ultimate budget single led thrower to date with its humongous reflector which is very rare and ‘pricy’ to manufacture, xml is a joke in a light of that size, but i was not sure if the circuit can support xhp35hi but you just confirmed it would Thumbs Up . That modded boss1 is da best single led budget thrower to date . Was expecting only a matter of time, palight would automatically pop one as default saving me some time and effort ordering leds separately because i just pooped 2 xml v5 in a trustfire sst90 68mm reflector light and it was impressive for only 30sec each at ~1400lumens but as i order the wrong domed version and destroyed both leds when i tried brute force dedoming in my haste. Kiss after waiting almost 2 months for those from fasttech. It was still a nice 30sec wow still. Cool

Unfortunately i had already placed an order on the supposed better upgraded Edc 3x xhp35hi but it was still not shipped due to china national day holidays. Tired

Would post more update on future progress here.

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light junkie wrote:
Pallight Boss1 modded with an xhp35 that outthrows the new hailing factory throw king the ThruniniteTM 42 ?

Again im not so sure the boss1 can be modded easily into a xhp35 hi with just a emitter swop sinced its 12v rated and the circuit is powered by 4x series 3.7v .would google to find out more about this. The driver compatibility is my main uncertainty since its a huge circuit board not easily available and tweed-ling with resistor mods is not my forte. Thats whats holding me back from getting and modding the boss1. Any links on such mods would be Thumbs Up Tq.

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I hopr it works out for you,maybe Ric has got his stuff together and gou can try vesture_of_blood@hotmail.com who is also Matthew from adveture sport flashlights he could proba ly do a supee job of modding it for you

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Update, its taking too long for the order to be fulfilled due to the holidays so i cancelled it.

Oh well so disappointed ,so i modded a xhp35hi onto the trustfire sst90 light to test and xhp35 works with the driver so i guess some existing 3 cell light drivers can provide enough voltage to drive the 12v xhp35. The result is much lower temperature , ultra tight beam with about the same light output. Xhp35 hi is da new ultra efficient low current ,cooler running long throw led king. Thumbs Up

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Fatlight wrote:
Update, its taking too long for the order to be fulfilled due to the holidays so i cancelled it.

Oh well so disappointed ,so i modded a xhp35hi onto the trustfire sst90 light to test and xhp35 works with the driver so i guess some existing 3 cell light drivers can provide enough voltage to drive the 12v xhp35. The result is much lower temperature , ultra tight beam with about the same light output. Xhp35 hi is da new ultra efficient low current ,cooler running long throw led king. Thumbs Up


Sounds amazing. What is the Trustfire light exactly?
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Sounds amazing. What is the Trustfire light exactly?

Hi, its the same light as the ultrafire T90/sst90 . On its stock driver the xhp35hi does not make T90 hot so i put it on direct drive and its now mildly warm and even brighter now. Compared to a sst50, the xhp35hi tint is high cri which makes it much clearer at a distance due to its tint and also much brighter with a narrow beam due to its tiny footprint and also the 12v low current runs cooler. i got the current draw from the tailcap on the stock driver at 0.65a and, direct drive at 0.5a so im not sure why its hotter when direct driven even though there is less current. Shocked . Perhaps the voltage is different and also the efficiency losses due to the not perfectly compatible driver waste substantial energy…..i shall not digress too much from the topic.

Back to the xhp35hi, so far theres nothing thats throws like a xhp35hi so its the ultimate option for throw, with a large reflector 68/72mm up, the beam is practically straight and very visible.

i got so excited by the new led that my interest in this edc 3x xhp35hi 95mm head Edc-light is renewed and reordered it. Cant imagine close to 7000lumens of mega throw could do vs tm16gt/fenix tk75 which all need bigger reflectors with 4x xhp35 to be the new beastly output throwers. Thumbs Up

Will post latest update again…….

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Is that Trustfire X6 that you are using? Glad to know that you have a great thrower like that. Any chance to measure the lux reading?

Maybe you can ask Ric and order just the host of the EDC-light, and build your own insane light lol.

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Yea, its the x6 but its oem without logo. i had modified it plenty of times with sst50 dedomed and it throws like crazy for a long time till the new xpl hi came and redefined throw and efficiency for this light. The x6 with xhp35hi direct drive throws as far and visually as least as bright as old sst50 dedomed on it but last like 5x longer , gradual dimming without getting anywhere hot. unfortunately , i dont have budget for a lux meter . i Just bought like 9 new lights to update my aging arsenal sinced i joined Blf months ago. Facepalm

I got the palight boss1 , courui d01, d07 and Edc xhp35hi on order and maybe could do some beam shots for comparison between these throwers . Thumbs Up

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