[Official] Astrolux S41S Quad Nichia 219B/ CREE XP-G3 1600LM Group Buy

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Preordered the plain SS nichias + tube.

Ta freeme!

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Ordered!!! Woohoo

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lionheart_2281 wrote:
Want to see tint / lumen difference between the xpg2 and xpg3 before ordering

I asked the same thing earlier but no one responded. Is the XP-G3 6500K? Won’t that be a really WARM WHITE tint?

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That’s cool white. 3-3500K is warm white.

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Gunga wrote:
That’s cool white. 3-3500K is warm white.

Hi,

Ok, thanks. Are both the XP-G2 AND the XP-G3 cool white? Also, how “purplish” would those be?

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Xpg3 is a newer iteration of LED, newer than xpg2. They are both available in warm, neutral or cool. 6500K is a colour temperature so I guess you could say it’s more purple then warm or neutral white.

You can’t really guess tint without a tint bin code (eg. 1A, 3B etc).

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Why aren’t they telling us the tints for the emitters? Are we all just hoping that there’s no green tint? Or are you all planning to mod yours straight away?

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I read that the green is caused by the AR lens. Sheeeessh…dunno

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/49183

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Both of 219B and XP-G3 have very similar tint at first glance, that was why I needed time to verify if they were indeed different emitters under the hoods. 

I have to redo everything I shot  yesterday because I shot them with grey background with did not turn out when warmer dim light setup. I have hard time looking for pure white wall, and I ended up using a large piece of acrylic sheet (reflective) for this purpose. As usual, this may not be 100% representative in their beam tint due to poor dynamic range in digital camera, post processing in JPEG and they are not accurately color corrected. I could only ensure they were shot in same environment and exactly same camera settings.

I will work on another group with them projecting against my color cards now.

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freeme wrote:

Both of 219B and XP-G3 have very similar tint at first glance, that was why I needed time to verify if they were indeed different emitters under the hoods. 


I have to redo everything I shot  yesterday because I shot them with grey background with did not turn out when warmer dim light setup. I have hard time looking for pure white wall, and I ended up using a large piece of acrylic sheet (reflective) for this purpose. As usual, this may not be 100% representative in their beam tint due to poor dynamic range in digital camera, post processing in JPEG and they are not accurately color corrected. I could only ensure they were shot in same environment and exactly same camera settings.



I will work on another group with them projecting against my color cards now.

Nichia looks brighter all round than XPG3, anyone else see that? Or just me?

They both seem to have that nice rosy tint

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Wow!
I was expecting the tint of XP-G3 to look like the XPL-HI 1A if it is rated for 6500K.

Considering I already have XP-G2, 219B, 219C in triple or quad emitters, I might jump on the new XP-G3 as my S41 is already in 219B

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Disregard the brightness for now as I am using the same battery for both lights without recharging. I did a quick tailcap current measurement a few days ago. Both lights also achieved fairly similar drained at 6.8A +/- 0.2A with NITECORE IMR18350. NC 219B has higher CRI than XP-G3 without doubts, result is quite visible with trained eyes.

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Nichia looks brighter all round than XPG3, anyone else see that? Or just me? They both seem to have that nice rosy tint
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Ordered SS and SS colored, tube for each, Nichia for each.

I already have a (newer, w/washers under the screws) Manker E14 with Nichias, all 4 LEDs have the same rose tint on moonlight setting and the beam is a pure, neutral white on higher settings. I agree with Freeme about the high-CRI of the Nichia emitters, it is very evident to me and I also have well-trained eyes (photographer and graphic designer, have calibrated many monitors, films, and applied color-correction professionally since the late 80s in print and digital). The color rendition of these emitters is absolutely stunning compared to any other constant-on hand-held artificial light source I have ever seen - I wouldn't hesitate to use this light in a pro setting for accurate color. It's that good.

Also - I have those same Nitecore 18350s as Freeme, and the new 3500ma Orbtronic 18650s (protected) are significantly brighter on turbo - the other settings look too similar to differentiate if they differ at all. Moonlight is moonlight, no matter what battery, as far as I can tell by eyesight alone. I have also tried "de" brand protected 18350s, and it would only flash (once, like a camera flash) trying to go into turbo, so protected 18350s may not work at all settings unless someone knows of a specific one that will.

Anyway, can't wait for the 2 new ones to get here! Thanks, Freeme!

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Nice pic Freeme!
Both look like very nice tint.

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Hi,

Thanks for the pics, but I thought someone said the 6500K was a CW? From the pics, the XP-G3 looks almost the same as the 219B?

EDIT: And the one on the leftmost is more of a CW, right?

If that’s the case, I’ll go with the XP-G3 since I don’t have any XP-G3 lights yet :)!

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6500K is cool white. It should not look the same as Nichia 219B if that is the correct bin. Freeme can comment since he has the lights in hand.

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Can someone (freeme, m4d m4x) please measure the flashlight?
90g is the weight of the standard aluminium version.

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OTF tint of XP-G3 is much closer to netural white (under 6K). There could be slight shift of tint due to optics? I will try to pop out optics of XP-G3 version to verify over the weekend. 

Gunga wrote:
6500K is cool white. It should not look the same as Nichia 219B if that is the correct bin. Freeme can comment since he has the lights in hand.

ohaya wrote:
Hi, Thanks for the pics, but I thought someone said the 6500K was a CW? From the pics, the XP-G3 looks almost the same as the 219B? EDIT: And the one on the leftmost is more of a CW, right? If that's the case, I'll go with the XP-G3 since I don't have any XP-G3 lights yet :)!

146g for both.

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Can someone (freeme, m4d m4x) please measure the flashlight? 90g is the weight of the standard aluminium version.
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freeme wrote:

OTF tint of XP-G3 is much closer to netural white (under 6K). There could be slight shift of tint due to optics? I will try to pop out optics of XP-G3 version to verify over the weekend. 

Gunga wrote:
6500K is cool white. It should not look the same as Nichia 219B if that is the correct bin. Freeme can comment since he has the lights in hand.

ohaya wrote:
Hi, Thanks for the pics, but I thought someone said the 6500K was a CW? From the pics, the XP-G3 looks almost the same as the 219B? EDIT: And the one on the leftmost is more of a CW, right? If that’s the case, I’ll go with the XP-G3 since I don’t have any XP-G3 lights yet :)!

146g for both.

Wieselflinkpro wrote:
Can someone (freeme, m4d m4x) please measure the flashlight? 90g is the weight of the standard aluminium version.

I’m sorry to ask, but is there any chance that you mixed up the pics and have the same pic twice (for XP-G3 and Nichia)?

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Sorry to keep asking questions, but is there a deadline for pre-ordering these? I want to make sure I don’t miss this one, but I’m still on the fence about the XP-G3 vs. Nichia (leaning towards the XP-G3), pending more info about the XP-G3 color/tint.

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Looks like the price goes up after the first 500 ($4 more for the 501 to 1000) – check the link…

Got a ways to go, doesn’t look like the colored is up to 50 and the plain one isn’t up to 100 yet.

I might buy an XP-G3 in addition to the Nichia on order…

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@freeme: Thanks for the pictures comparing emitters.

However, as you mentioned it, DCs do all sorts of processing and white balance adjustments that may differ from one pict to the other resulting in non comparable images. To have a better idea of the tint difference between emitters you would need to shoot all the lights side by side in one picture so that the corrections are the same for all. My 2cts… Wink

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Count me in for 1 Nichia model. Will buy 18650 tube later on.

What is the premium gift box? I couldn’t find any detaila of it. Is it free?

Description says, carrying strap included!! Does it?

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Ordered an XP-G3 (not colored) with a colored 18650 tube.

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nfetterly wrote:
Ordered an XP-G3 (not colored) with a colored 18650 tube.

My OCD has a problem with this lol

G’day!

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I would have grab colored unit if the copper section is colored as well… Dilemma…

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Colored extension tube sample has been included in the product description page. 

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freeme,

I went ahead and pre-ordered 1 colored with XP-G3 and with the colored extension tube. I hope the tint turns out like the one in your pics.

Thanks!

Jim

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Is 5k XP-G3 an option? If so, I’d like one with 18650 tube.

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where can I get a replacement lens? I dropped mine (for S41) and it shattered…

I’m NOT referring to this 4 in 1 lens:
http://www.banggood.com/Manker-22mm-4-In-1-Lens-For-XPG-XPL-HI-Nichia-21...

btw, I’ve this colored S41S in my Banggood cart, but I’m holding out for reviews to see how the stainless steel holds up at high output levels.

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