Video Review: Nitecore TM03 (XHP70, 1x 18650, 2800+ lumens)

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Video Review: Nitecore TM03 (XHP70, 1x 18650, 2800+ lumens)

Ok BLF. A few weeks ago Banggood wanted to know if they could send me this for review. I said yes, and so here’s my review. This light tested quite a bit higher than I expected. Anyway… it’s super bright- but uses a proprietary 18650 battery for operation. The battery tests a bit over 2800 mah in my BT-C3100 charger. Anyway, it steps down fast- as you’d expect, and doesn’t have a real good low mode- but the overall output is impressive. You’ll see it compared to the sort of similar Acebeam EC50 and Olight R50 seeker. By similar, I mean: 2500 lumen lights that use a single cell, emitter, and battery. Hope you like the review.

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Thank you for the excellent review which did a good job of showing both advantages and disadvantages.

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sidecross wrote:
Thank you for the excellent review which did a good job of showing both advantages and disadvantages.

I hope I can help people with reasoned purchase decisions!

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Its amazing what you can buy otc these days. Just last year something this size with this power would be unheard of if you were not modding. And you still trip over stuff with a big ass light, damn.

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Thanks for the review. Amazing light. Thumbs Up

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Thanks for the review. Thumbs Up I had no idea this even existed. Can it use normal IMR high amp 18650’s? Or is there some majic box in that proprietary Nitecore 18650?

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That battery has some weird circuitry that the light recognizes. It won’t go into the two high modes without the battery made especially for this light.

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Thanks for the review. All I want is a code or a review sample myself. Wink

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Thanks for the review. All I want is a code or a review sample myself. Wink

I’ll PM Neal and see if he has a code. EDIT: PM MAd Max, he has a promo code and link.

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Thanks for the review. Bright light, for sure!

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mhanlen wrote:
That battery has some weird circuitry that the light recognizes. It won’t go into the two high modes without the battery made especially for this light.

I wonder if that’s by design – to protect people from inserting unprotected ICRs into the flashlight and then running them at too high of a current.

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Too bad it’s CW. I have too many and I don’t really fancy any, so I will not edc this. Nice review though, thanks again!

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MG wrote:
Thanks for the review. Bright light, for sure!

Yeah it is!

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mhanlen wrote:
That battery has some weird circuitry that the light recognizes. It won’t go into the two high modes without the battery made especially for this light.

I wonder if that’s by design – to protect people from inserting unprotected ICRs into the flashlight and then running them at too high of a current.

It’s by design for sure. I guess it’s trying to be idiot proof.

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Too bad it’s CW. I have too many and I don’t really fancy any, so I will not edc this. Nice review though, thanks again!

I’m more of a NW or WW guy myself, so I understand.

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Very nice review!

A code for this as well as for other name brand models does exist but due to MAP they cannot be advertised. List is expected in the next couple days.

 

 

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great video as always. can you please measure if the strobe is the same output as turbo? a 3000 lumen strobe must be wicked in a light this size. im expecting it will probably be only 1200 lumens on strobe….

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great video as always. can you please measure if the strobe is the same output as turbo? a 3000 lumen strobe must be wicked in a light this size. im expecting it will probably be only 1200 lumens on strobe….

Now who knows if the light meter reads it correctly…. I’m getting pulses from about 370 lumens to 468 lumens. It’s hard to do an apples to apples- because strobes seem brighter to your eyes, but looking at it on a white wall it definitely isn’t anywhere near full power. It looks brighter than it really may be.

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Very cool review!

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Great video! You are so professional! Thumbs Up What equipment like camera do you use to shoot such an amazing video?

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Great video! You are so professional! Thumbs Up What equipment like camera do you use to shoot such an amazing video?

I use a black magic pocket cinema camera for most stuff, and a Panasonic g7 for supplemental footage. They both share a common lens mount, and I use a combination of c-mount, 35mm manual still lenses, and a few modern micro 4/3 lenses.

I shoot my night stuff with lenses with an f-stop as low as a 1.4 and I have one video light that I can dial in a color temperature. Then I color correct my footage slightly to make everything match and adjust levels in post for over and under exposed stuff.

I shoot at 24fps too, which has that film feel.

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mhanlen wrote:
blueb8llz wrote:
great video as always. can you please measure if the strobe is the same output as turbo? a 3000 lumen strobe must be wicked in a light this size. im expecting it will probably be only 1200 lumens on strobe….

Now who knows if the light meter reads it correctly…. I’m getting pulses from about 370 lumens to 468 lumens. It’s hard to do an apples to apples- because strobes seem brighter to your eyes, but looking at it on a white wall it definitely isn’t anywhere near full power. It looks brighter than it really may be.

Thank you for testing this. I wonder why they couldn’t or didn’t make the strobe at full power? If it’s a tactical light with the secondary switch for instant strobe, the buyer may purposely buy the light because of this feature, and would indeed like a 3000 lumens pocket sized light.

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Thanks for the in-depth review, I had to go ahead and get one of these as I just couldn’t resist… boost or not. Smile

Had to laugh when you were trying to spark the cell when installing it, my luck will probably let me do it when I’m NOT trying to. hahaha I purchased a back-up cell, just in case. A bit pricey but not bad for a proprietary. Beats the price of a Canon DSLR battery pack, that’s for sure!

So much about this light is intriguing, from the deep reflector to the boost circuit, the lever action on the tail, they’re really creating new boundaries over at Nitecore and I just had to see for myself with a hands on… thanks for the guide and all the pertinents.

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DB Custom wrote:
Thanks for the in-depth review, I had to go ahead and get one of these as I just couldn’t resist… boost or not. Smile

Had to laugh when you were trying to spark the cell when installing it, my luck will probably let me do it when I’m NOT trying to. hahaha I purchased a back-up cell, just in case. A bit pricey but not bad for a proprietary. Beats the price of a Canon DSLR battery pack, that’s for sure!

So much about this light is intriguing, from the deep reflector to the boost circuit, the lever action on the tail, they’re really creating new boundaries over at Nitecore and I just had to see for myself with a hands on… thanks for the guide and all the pertinents.

I was able to get it to spark, when I wasn’t recording. Trust me- it does! I feel the deep reflector way have been a missed opportunity… if outfitted with a better throwing emitter or made smooth. I’m finishing up my Acebeam K70 review, and that dedomed XHP35 HI would have been pretty cool, driven hard in this light. And yes… way cheaper than a Canon battery. Thanks!

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FWIW, every time I see you approach that tree now I’ll be looking for those blamed hornets!

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Anyone want to know more about the “proprietary” cell? The expensive Nitecore TM-03 battery that is “high drain” and “high capacity”?

I bought a back-up directly from the “NitecoreStore”. It came in today, before the light made it. And who’d a thunk what I found inside? A simple little ol Panasonic PF! That’s right, with circuitry top and bottom making it proprietary! Figure I’ll take the circuitry off and attach it to a Samsung 30Q and see what happens. Smile

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DB Custom wrote:
Anyone want to know more about the “proprietary” cell? The expensive Nitecore TM-03 battery that is “high drain” and “high capacity”?

I bought a back-up directly from the “NitecoreStore”. It came in today, before the light made it. And who’d a thunk what I found inside? A simple little ol Panasonic PF! That’s right, with circuitry top and bottom making it proprietary! Figure I’ll take the circuitry off and attach it to a Samsung 30Q and see what happens. Smile


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mhanlen wrote:
That battery has some weird circuitry that the light recognizes. It won’t go into the two high modes without the battery made especially for this light.

Have you found any other 18650 that can run this light on high? I’m about to buy this but if it cannot accept any other 18650 then its a no go for me.

Nice review by the way

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the cell is proprietary, a normal 18650 won’t run this light properly, if at all.

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the cell is proprietary, a normal 18650 won’t run this light properly, if at all.

Thanks for answering this for me Dale. I wasn’t on the site a whole lot last month.

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DB Custom wrote:
Anyone want to know more about the “proprietary” cell? The expensive Nitecore TM-03 battery that is “high drain” and “high capacity”?

I bought a back-up directly from the “NitecoreStore”. It came in today, before the light made it. And who’d a thunk what I found inside? A simple little ol Panasonic PF! That’s right, with circuitry top and bottom making it proprietary! Figure I’ll take the circuitry off and attach it to a Samsung 30Q and see what happens. Smile


OMG how cute they made a little proprietary cell out of a PF. Pffffft is more like it. Just when I though it was safe to go back in the Nitecore store. Man Dale, that’s dope. BTW Thanks for the Review MHanlen.
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I should also point out that with both negative and positive contacts on top of the cell one must be quite concious of this when inserting the light into a charger as it is all too easy for both contacts to touch the chargers tab and short the cell. While this should only result in a brief spark during a normal insertion, it’s feasible that the protection circuit could blow or trip and effectively ruin a $25.00 proprietary cell.

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Thanks for the brilliant review, the mode switching seems complicated somewhat, I would really like to see some of these decent high power single cell torches made without the strobe mode at all because it can just be a pain sometimes I reckon.

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