New Convoy C8 – Clearly better

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I saw the new clear C8 at gearbest .
I found a few mistakes in description. They writed everywhere XP-L H1 instead of XP-L HI where HI means high intensity.
The modes described the old firmware not the new one, but on the pics you can clearly Smile see the red driver board.

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Yesterday I received my new clearly better clear C8 and it doesn’t seem to me as better, it’s nice looking thou, but I have all this issues already mentioned: dirty lense from inside, large particles of what seems to be plastic material. I bought several old style C8 flashlights for friends and except occasional tiny reflector imperfections all was good.
I will upload my pictures later but it’s all as described by other members.

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I’m kinda disappointed with my clear C8. The AR lens was mishandled before/during assembly, smeared with grease and large particles of dust/dirt mixed in and a few in the reflector. There’s a couple dents under the anodization at the seam of the head/bezel. There’s also a small defect in the reflector. The bezel and tailcap weren’t machined quite right. When tightened, on one side of the seam it is tight and smooth, but the opposite side has a small gap and sticks out slightly creating a small ridge that is noticeable when holding.
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I received my 2 new clear C8s this week, along with a L6 clear. Very happy with all. I ordered direct from Simon at aliexpress. Dispatched Sept 11th, recd Oct 19th.

No more purchases now for a while. Unless there are new colours.

To many flashlights, too many batteries. Wife is going to kill me Smile
Q8 (Still coming), S2+: 10, SRK style: 6, C8: 10, L2: 3,  L6: 2, Couri XM-L2: 1 LuckySun BLF SE: 3, EagleEye X6: 2   and lots more....

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Hunter wrote:
Yesterday I received my new clearly better clear C8 and it doesn’t seem to me as better, it’s nice looking thou, but I have all this issues already mentioned: dirty lense from inside, large particles of what seems to be plastic material. I bought several old style C8 flashlights for friends and except occasional tiny reflector imperfections all was good.
I will upload my pictures later but it’s all as described by other members.

Simon knows there was a brief rushed moment when a few of the new clear C8 were shipped without proper Q.C. checks.

You can post the pics here if you want, but if you just send the info and pics to him he will make it right promptly and without any hassle. Every company has little slips like this from time to time but I’ve never seen any company handle these little problems better than Simon…

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I should probably mention, after the initial offer of a replacement lens we had a few messages back and forth and eventually Simon agreed to send me a host which is en route. I agree, QC issues pop up every now and then especially with new products even from large companies; it’s not a big deal.

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Here’s mine, took it apart, used compressed air to clean the reflector and microfiber cloth for fingerprints on the lense…

 

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> new clear

Aw. I was hoping it was a typo for “nuclear” …

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hank wrote:
> new clear

Aw. I was hoping it was a typo for “nuclear” …

Haha, that’s a nice one. n_n

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Just ordered one in cool white

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I received my clear C8 yesterday and it is really nice. Tiny bit of debris in the reflector and had to clean the lens on the inside a bit, but all else was good. And it is my first Convoy C8 (I don’t like C8’s for their design but they form a useful niche for the reflector size).

Two things though, because I’m spoilt:
1) this driver is really nice, but in a C8 I want direct drive
2) a C8 is all about dedomed XP-G2, not XP-L Hi

So tonight I did the mods: bypassed two springs, BLF-A6 driver, dedomed (old production type) XP-G2 S3 3D (on the stock MCPCB). Numbers: 3.90A on high, 180kcd precisely! Smile

That proves how good this reflector+lens is, well done Simon. I could use the stock centering ring, and the focus was dead-on, but still had to screw/unscrew the bezel a few times to have the led sit perfectly centered and get the hotspot clean. (a dedomed XP-G2 is very demanding in its focussing/centering)

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Did you sanded down the centering ring?

 

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Sirius9 wrote:
Did you sanded down the centering ring?

No, did not sand down the centering ring. Probably because the stock XP-L Hi was already a domeless emitter, the focus was still correct.
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Anybody experiencing scratches when trying to put on the clip? I went halfway but stopped when I saw the clip was damaging the finish… The black anodizing seems to be much more durable. Other than that I’m happy with the clear C8, replaced the driver for a H17F and I’m getting just sightly lower reading vs the black version because of the reflector. (The old one has a better finish.)

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Since when does a C8 come with a clip?

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It doesn’t, I was referring to the convoy clip.

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Ok, I’m confused. Isn’t this a thread on the Convoy C8? Clear anodized? The Convoy C8 doesn’t come with a clip. It’s not machined to take a clip. So of course, if you’re shoving a clip on it from another light you’ll see damage…

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Thanks Jerommel, I don’t believe I’d seen that one before.

Seems unlikely to work with the larger heavier C8, those wing portions look awfully slender…

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It is not that sturdy but it holds an S2+ ok, I do wish it was more robust though and had a larger gap at the top so that jeans would actually fit in that gap without having to manhandle it wider and ripping the top of the jeans.

I like the S1 clip better but it still needs a wider gap, at least it is much stronger though.

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djozz wrote:
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Did you sanded down the centering ring?

No, did not sand down the centering ring. Probably because the stock XP-L Hi was already a domeless emitter, the focus was still correct.

Interesting, for dedomed XML2 I usually sand down that centering ring to about 1.6mm (just the part that is between reflector and LED mcpcb)…

 

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I find XP-L HI’s to be some of the hardest LED’s to focus myself, small changes seem to make a big difference in some reflectors, others not so much.

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For me, hardest thing is centering XP leds because centering rings from Simon for this leds has inner diameter larger for about 0.2mm so it doesn’t center the led perfectly, it’s even worse if you want to center XPE2 led -> painful process…
I noticed that new/clear C8 has centering ring with smaller inner diameter, corners of the XPL led dig into the ring almost…

 

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Sirius9 wrote:
For me, hardest thing is centering XP leds because centering rings from Simon for this leds has inner diameter larger for about 0.2mm so it doesn’t center the led perfectly, it’s even worse if you want to center XPE2 led -> painful process… I noticed that new/clear C8 has centering ring with smaller inner diameter, corners of the XPL led dig into the ring almost…

I actually like the LED to dig into the ring slightly, it sticks to the LED that way and makes it much easier to get it installed.

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Fantastic. Replacement clear c8 host arrived today. No fitment issues, no dents, perfect reflector, butter smooth threads. Great Convoy quality, even better than my original convoy c8. Thumbs Up

AR lens is a little dirty, but it’s so minor it should clean off fine.

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Hi BLF! This is my 1st post here!

Self-disclosure time: I’m non-native English speaker; I don’t have experience or knowledge to mod or program anything about flashlights, I’m just a regular buyer; I’ve been recently converted to “flashaholism”!!! Amen!

I want to thank BLF for all the work done and knowledge sharing on this forum! It has been really nice to read some experiences here, and it has been helping me to obtain important information and to choose some things about flashlights!

Pardon me if my subject should be in another post, as I wanted to ask not about Convoy C8 but about the “Biscotti” firmware. I would appreciate if you could help me!

I own a Convoy S2+ (7135*6 – XML2 U2-1A), bought from Simon on AliExpress and I’m very happy with it!
Now I want to try other things, still on Convoy S2+, like another tint (T6 – 3B), and to use IMR 18350 batteries for EDC purposes.
But before I order a new flashlight, I have some questions, and was wondering if you could help me.

1- Is the Biscotti firmware available to S2+? And if so, do you think I can order my new S2+ with it already inside? (I’ve seen that Simon is a great guy, but I don’t want to abuse asking him to put this driver into the flashlight if it is not usual to do so…)

2- This firmware will work fine with a T6-3B led, or should I prefer other type of tint/led?

3- I was thinking to choose a 7135*8 driver to use it (mostly) with the group 8 (0,1% – 1% – 10% – 50%) . Occasionally, if needed, I would change it to have 100% power, but not necessarily all the time!
SO, if I choose this driver, using the group 8 configuration, do you think it will be nice to use it with IMR 18350 batteries? If not, should I prefer the one with 7135*6 chips?

4– In the end, if I order a Convoy S2+ with the Biscotti firmware, 7135*8 – T6 – 3B, which should I prefer, among these:
a) Samsung INR18650 30Q – 3000mah
b) Sanyo NCR18650GA – 3500mah
c) Panasonic NCR18650B – 3400mah

d) Keepower IMR 18350 – 750mah
e) Keepower 18350 – 900mah
f) AWT IMR18350 – 800mah

Other suggestions, both for flashlight and/or batteries are welcome, of course!!

The sites I may use to purchase these things (on the “budget mode”) are AliExpress, Gearbest, Banggood and NKON, so my references are from what is available on these, as well!

If any of you could help me with this, I would appreciate! Thanks in advance for all!

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Welcome aboard MB! Smile

Great to see such unadulterated exuberance. Hide your billfold, cut up your credit cards… you’re a perfect candidate for full blown flashaholism and will soon need dedicated flashlight cabinets. Big Smile

Biscotti (Bistro Mini) will work fine in the S2+, either with an 18350 or 18650. Your idea to use 8 7135 chips will give you a nice output on Turbo, also your idea to use the mode level 8 to prolong cell life for your half cell is right on target. You’ve researched it quite well.

Simon will gladly put a new updated driver in your purchase, just ask him and if there’s a charge for doing so he will let you know, most likely there won’t be. Tell him you’re a new BLF addict and rave like you’re doing here and he’ll know you’re one of us, he too is a flashaholic and your enthusiasm will appeal to him. Wink

Have fun! Modding is next… Silly

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DB Custom wrote:
Welcome aboard MB! Smile

Great to see such unadulterated exuberance. Hide your billfold, cut up your credit cards… you’re a perfect candidate for full blown flashaholism and will soon need dedicated flashlight cabinets. Big Smile

Biscotti (Bistro Mini) will work fine in the S2+, either with an 18350 or 18650. Your idea to use 8 7135 chips will give you a nice output on Turbo, also your idea to use the mode level 8 to prolong cell life for your half cell is right on target. You’ve researched it quite well.

Simon will gladly put a new updated driver in your purchase, just ask him and if there’s a charge for doing so he will let you know, most likely there won’t be. Tell him you’re a new BLF addict and rave like you’re doing here and he’ll know you’re one of us, he too is a flashaholic and your enthusiasm will appeal to him. Wink

Have fun! Modding is next… Silly

I was charged all of $1 for the new firmware in the S2+.
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Dale,
Thank you very much for your welcoming and quick answer!
I’m not sure if I’ll ever go onto “modding” as I don’t have expertise or tools to do that!
But one thing I’m sure, I like to have a flashlight with me, so I’ll always keep one or two around…in each house division, and I’ll refine my taste to always get better lights!

Concerning my questions, you clarified the most important things, so I guess I’ll talk to Simon and ask if he minds to put the “biscotti” in the flashlight!
I already contacted him before about a similar thing and he seemed very open to send me a “customized” flashlight, but then I saw this firmware and now I’ll go for it as I’m sure it will work on S2+!…

Also, thanks for confirming/informing that the mode level I intend to use the most will be feasible with the 8 7135 chips! I don’t want to be charging the batteries all the time, I don’t want the light to burn my hands, but I also want a flexible driver to allow me a wide range of possibilities. Biscotti will certainly do it !
SO , thanks to those who developed it and to those who promote these developments!
And thanks Dale!!

Stephenk,
I also thank you for the answer, and I guess I won’t mind paying some extra money to get a(nother) very good light from Convoy!

Thank you both, and I’ll be around as I have a lot to learn with you people!
Regards!

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MascaratumB wrote:
Dale,
Thank you very much for your welcoming and quick answer!
I’m not sure if I’ll ever go onto “modding” as I don’t have expertise or tools to do that!
But one thing I’m sure, I like to have a flashlight with me, so I’ll always keep one or two around…in each house division, and I’ll refine my taste to always get better lights!

Concerning my questions, you clarified the most important things, so I guess I’ll talk to Simon and ask if he minds to put the “biscotti” in the flashlight!
I already contacted him before about a similar thing and he seemed very open to send me a “customized” flashlight, but then I saw this firmware and now I’ll go for it as I’m sure it will work on S2+!…

Also, thanks for confirming/informing that the mode level I intend to use the most will be feasible with the 8 7135 chips! I don’t want to be charging the batteries all the time, I don’t want the light to burn my hands, but I also want a flexible driver to allow me a wide range of possibilities. Biscotti will certainly do it !
SO , thanks to those who developed it and to those who promote these developments!
And thanks Dale!!

Stephenk,
I also thank you for the answer, and I guess I won’t mind paying some extra money to get a(nother) very good light from Convoy!

Thank you both, and I’ll be around as I have a lot to learn with you people!
Regards!


Welcome new friend!

It’s an honor to have a new member’s first post in a Convoy thread. Smile

Your English is very good by the way. Worldwide membership is one of the things that make BLF such a special place.

One thing I wanted to mention though is that the firmware is in it’s first release and there are a few things to be sorted out. The main thing that you will see if you have Simon put the new driver in your S2+ is that the blinky modes like strobe and bike-flash and even the programming mode are running double speed.

We are working on correcting this. It’s still a nice improvement but it will be much better in the next revision. I just wanted to inform you before you order.

Welcome aboard!

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Hi J-Dub74,

Thanks for your welcoming, kind words and also the work developing this firmware! It may need improvement but it is really nice!
During the past month I’ve searched many things about flashlights (as buyer) once I “no nothing” about this “flashaholic” world, and to my content I found BLF and, recently, these news about the firmware for Convoy flashlights! So, it’s good to be in this “special place” and to know so many good things that you guys dream and do! Thanks! Smile

Concerning the firmware, I read in the thread that there were some things to be perfected, and now you informed us! Thanks for it!
I followed Dale’s suggestion and contacted Simon about putting the “biscotti” in my new S2+, and he said it was possible by adding $1 to the price (as stephenk said).
I already ordered it today along with other stuff!
Although you mentioned issues with the strobe and bike-flash, I guess I won’t mind because I mainly use the normal modes.

In my S2+, I don´t like the blink to change modes, so this new firmware is a breakthrough!
If I see that it has major issues then…damn, I’ll have to buy another flashlight! Gladly!!! Wink
I’ll be happy to hear the news about the next revision, please!

Convoy S2+ is simple, robust, versatile, small, a budget flashlight…but it is a beast!

Once again, thanks for the info, and keep up the good work! Thumbs Up
Regards!

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