HaikeLite Preview for MINI Triple-XHP70 prototypes--Discussion thread

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double click turbo!

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I prefer double click turbo as well. I’m only interested in single click turbo (or maximum) if that light output can be maintained continuously without stepping down/light getting too hot to handle.

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Double click for turbo too

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HaikeLite Official wrote:
zeremefico wrote:
Wow, price range?

Would be very reasonable . Some guy in forum will do test review first.

I’d be your Guinea Pig. Wow ! Any hosts going to be available?

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Nicolicous wrote:
I prefer double clicks for turbo so you dont accidentally put on turbo in bed Silly

Ditto.

Double click for “extra” brightness always made sense to me.

There will always be more darkness than I have lights.

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A selectable UI may be interesting. One UI with and another UI without single click turbo. More lights these days have selectable UI. Maybe interesting for HaikeLite in the near future?

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hIKARInoob wrote:
I prefer double click turbo as well. I’m only interested in single click turbo (or maximum) if that light output can be maintained continuously without stepping down/light getting too hot to handle.

I agree with that Wink

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Double click for turbo is good with me. I like to have access to moonlight and turbo from off so how it is now is fine.

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I feel The UI is getting better with single click ON, single click OFF being a priority.

But As I've been doing for a couple years, now, I prefer single click to go to next mode, press&hold for previous mode. If you lock in to a mode for a minimum time, then the next single click turns the light OFF. So, you get single click ON and OFF, plus single click to go to next mode - this is what I prefer, as I've implemented and been using in e-switch firmware for a couple years now, migrated into Narsil. A double click or press&hold from OFF could go to turbo, but the UI is more consistent using press&hold from OFF to go to turbo, because it's the previous mode from OFF - it's consistent. Double clicks will interfere with fast single clicks, so you have to be careful with combining double click and single click operations.

This is all based on the original "Werner UI", but I added the twist of timing out a "lock in", so you can easily turn the light OFF via a single click from any mode.

So to summarize:

  • From OFF, single click to lowest mode (moon), press&hold to turbo
  • From ON state, single click to next mode, unless you are locked in to a mode, then single click turns the light OFF
  • From ON state, press&hold goes to previous mode

 

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So how does contact boards looks like? Youve said that youll show them.

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HaikeLite Official wrote:
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Nice looking prototype, but IMO it needs a higher turbo, at least 10,000lm. Doesn’t matter if it drops down in one minute. Also I would like to see deeper reflectors so it’s not limited to a pure flooder…

10 000lm for such a small-size light is too hot. It gets really hot in 1-2 minutes.

Deeper reflector will increase the size, 130mm is very handy.

I suppose that makes sense for this “mini” light. Will you have a full size version? Add more XHP70’s, bump up the lumens to 15-20 thousand, although more is always appreciated.

The low mode should be lower.

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I guess I didn’t make myself clear. All I’m asking is for turbo to be added to the memorized mode. So when that I turn it off on turbo, I can simply turn it on in turbo with s single click.
I still want the double click to turbo in the UI. So when it’s off, or if I’m a lower mode, double click to turbo!
Generally it would still be the same, if you want to turn in in high mode the next time u want the light on, just turn it off on high.

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Two things I would like to know:

1) What is the parasitic drain value?
2) How repairable/mod-able is the light? Can you disassemble everything without tools? No glued bezel or other components?

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hIKARInoob wrote:
Two things I would like to know:

1) What is the parasitic drain value?
2) How repairable/mod-able is the light? Can you disassemble everything without tools? No glued bezel or other components?

From the prototype you can see the battery configuration .The bronze springs is not good enough. Lower-internal resistance components are required.

Custom-made springs and copper rings will come back tomorrow.
Parasitic drain will be tested next Monday when we come back from Holiday.

Will let you know the results

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In your other thread I commented on the hole and rod configuration.
Applies here too Wink

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blueb8llz wrote:
I guess I didn’t make myself clear. All I’m asking is for turbo to be added to the memorized mode. So when that I turn it off on turbo, I can simply turn it on in turbo with s single click. I still want the double click to turbo in the UI. So when it’s off, or if I’m a lower mode, double click to turbo! Generally it would still be the same, if you want to turn in in high mode the next time u want the light on, just turn it off on high.

Hi blue8llz

I totally understood . The UI you suggested can make a quicker-access to turbo. I like the idea too.
We might try this UI in next batch.

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Thanks for keeping us informed

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HaikeLite Official wrote:
blueb8llz wrote:
I guess I didn’t make myself clear. All I’m asking is for turbo to be added to the memorized mode. So when that I turn it off on turbo, I can simply turn it on in turbo with s single click. I still want the double click to turbo in the UI. So when it’s off, or if I’m a lower mode, double click to turbo! Generally it would still be the same, if you want to turn in in high mode the next time u want the light on, just turn it off on high.

Hi blue8llz

I totally understood . The UI you suggested can make a quicker-access to turbo. I like the idea too.
We might try this UI in next batch.

Great! Now you will be different than all the companies! Back then, turbo was always in the sequence and it can be memorized. Now with all these higher powered lights, companies got too safe and leavin turbo out and making it hidden.

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can the driver be flashed >??? what ICU do you use ??
there is a new driver from tom withc would be make this light a winner but with this existing driver far to limited in 2016 i think this driver is more like early 2014

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So, any news on these lights? I sure would like to see more pics and info Wink

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hurry up and start selling Big Smile

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hIKARInoob wrote:
So, any news on these lights? I sure would like to see more pics and info Wink

Final products will get ready next week. I will update more detailed pictures and information by then.

The overall looks of final products dont have much difference from the prototype.The length of both lights is 3mm shorter ,however the netweight remain the same by adding copper contact rings. Sharp edges have been manchined to be smooth.

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HaikeLite Official wrote:
hIKARInoob wrote:
So, any news on these lights? I sure would like to see more pics and info Wink

Final products will get ready next week. I will update more detailed pictures and information by then.

The overall looks of final products dont have much difference from the prototype.The length of both lights is 3mm shorter ,however the netweight remain the same by adding copper contact rings. Sharp edges have been manchined to be smooth.

Thanks for the update! Must be exciting for you guys finally showing your final products you’ve been working hard for to the public Smile

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hIKARInoob wrote:
Two things I would like to know:

1) What is the parasitic drain value?
2) How repairable/mod-able is the light? Can you disassemble everything without tools? No glued bezel or other components?

Q1:
No parastic drain has been detected. Will test it again in final product.

Q2:
The contact ring under the driver has been clamped, not be screwed-in. You will need a tool to pull it out by strong force if you want to dissassemble it.

Bezel is not glued.

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HaikeLite Official wrote:
hIKARInoob wrote:
Two things I would like to know:

1) What is the parasitic drain value?
2) How repairable/mod-able is the light? Can you disassemble everything without tools? No glued bezel or other components?

Q1:
No parastic drain has been detected. Will test it again in final product.

Q2:
The contact ring under the driver has been clamped, not be screwed-in. You will need a tool to pull it out by strong force if you want to dissassemble it.

Bezel is not glued.

Ahh,

No parasitic drain? You have electronic switch(es) right? So you should always have parasitic drain, unless it’s less than 1 microA and your DMM is not able to detect it…
Interested in the clamping ring of the driver. I’ll probably have a better look in the reviews… Thanks for the answers!

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HaikeLite Official wrote:
Q2: The contact ring under the driver has been clamped, not be screwed-in. You will need a tool to pull it out by strong force if you want to dissassemble it. Bezel is not glued.

Ouch! Is it too late to get that changed to something more moddable/serviceable friendly? This doesn't sound good.... frown

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Nicolicous wrote:
hurry up and start selling Big Smile

working very hard on it. Selling have to wait until our QC approved.

For you guys, I think it’s better waitting for a testing review. Big Smile

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HaikeLite Official wrote:
Q2: The contact ring under the driver has been clamped, not be screwed-in. You will need a tool to pull it out by strong force if you want to dissassemble it. Bezel is not glued.

Ouch! Is it too late to get that changed to something more moddable/serviceable friendly? This doesn’t sound good…. frown

Hi Haikelite,

A lot of people here mod the lights, and therefore are interested in easy access to the leds and drivers. I’m interested in easy access primarily for possible repairs. If a driver is busted, then the manufacturer can just send me a new one and I can fix it myself. Otherwise I have to send the light (shipping cost), and it’s gone for several months… I find a construction that you can completely disassemble without (special) tools also very elegant.
Anyhow, easy access to components is something to consider as well when manufacturing flashlights.

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What are you going to mode in triple xhp70 light? What driver are you going to put in that will work with 2 electronic switches?

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What are you going to mode in triple xhp70 light? What driver are you going to put in that will work with 2 electronic switches?

I don’t mod. But it seems a lot of modders want more output. you can use just 1 of the 2 switches, and the mini version only has one switch. Maybe shave the domes. Change the emitters to high CRI XHP70. Who knows, maybe Vinh will put his own driver if possible…

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