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Ohh la la, subscribed!

Like others have mentioned, I’d love to see what a XHP35 HI with a smooth reflector could do in this monster.

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BLF user everydaysurvivalgear can explain thing very nice in his YouTube videos Mhanlen makes good videos Old Lumens has about the perfect voice to bring all pros and cons to light. And these are just 3, your inbox is about to explode Big Smile

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gchart wrote:
Ohh la la, subscribed!

Like others have mentioned, I’d love to see what a XHP35 HI with a smooth reflector could do in this monster.

XHP35 HI throws better for sure. But the output can not go over 3000lumens.

XHP70 can output more lumens, the deep and thick cooling fins of this monster are designed for XHP70. Heat-sinking is amazing, on 7.5A turbo mode the big head part gets warm quick and never get too hot.I can hold the light in hand all the time.

Smooth reflector does make the light brighter than OP reflector. I will update some beamshots next week to compare the difference between SMO and OP side by side.

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Will this final production light make Convoy L6 owner want to ditch L6 and buy this one?

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I believe it will cost 2.5 times L6’s price.

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Will this final production light make Convoy L6 owner want to ditch L6 and buy this one?

If the price is close to L6 i guess Wink

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Both XHP70 and XHP35. Like the option of a SMO reflector also.

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I believe it will cost 2.5 times L6’s price.

Oh Sad

For that price then I have to buy cheap host and mod the light

I’m poor now day

Nico -.-

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Nicolicous wrote:
zeremefico wrote:
I believe it will cost 2.5 times L6’s price.

Oh Sad

For that price then I have to buy cheap host and mod the light

I’m poor now day

Do not guess Big Smile , will public the price soon.

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Please do not rush this product. If there’s anything we BLF’ers are good at is to quickly spot massive design/manufacturing flaws in highly anticipated flashlights.

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will34 wrote:
Please do not rush this product. If there’s anything we BLF’ers are good at is to quickly spot massive design/manufacturing flaws in highly anticipated flashlights.

Yes, and in a less fortunate case, non flashaholics can spot the flaw as well. Indeed, do not rush these products; they look too fine to have serious flaws…

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Can we have special discount for BLF members ?

If this light deliver well performance then the name will lift up the next production

I say stepping stone Smile this way minor flaw can be forgiven and not damaging to the brand name Silly

Nico -.-

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Nicolicous wrote:
Can we have special discount for BLF members ?

If I may politely disagree…

I like getting a good deal and all, too. But let’s wait to see pricing before we start talking about discounts. Who knows, it could be a great price without any sort of discounts. And from what HaikeLite is saying, it won’t be much longer. For coming here and letting us make suggestions, I think the least we can do to show our appreciation is to not discredit their pricing (nor call their quality into question).

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Final products coming soon ;

OP updated:

Final UI changed a little , Added hidden Strobe and SOS modes ; Press and held 1 seconds in any status to active.

Switch 1:
Single Click-on ; Single Click-off ;

Fast double-click Turbo (Double click switch 1 in any status to acess; easy to access)
Long-press to Strobe; Long-press again to SOS

Switch 2:

Low Low-Low-Mid -High (single click to change modes ; with last mode memory)

Hidden Moonlight 1 lumens (fast double click switch 2 to acess; easy to access)

Special modes always go back to previous memory mode by single click ; (Special modes can circle among special modes by double-click or long-press)
Memory mode: Low Low-Low-Mid -High + OFF

(We call Turbo/Moonlight/Strobe/SOS as special modes)

by Switch 2, Click+hold+flash signal to lockout the light; Repeat to unlock. Tailcap-lockout also available

Temperature stepdown added to HaikeLite thrower on Turbo mode; Turbo mode can last long time (around 15 minutes)before overheat and it gets cool again fast in 2-3 minutes
Gold-plating components changed to Silver-plating
Wire changed from 20 gauge to 18 gauge

Emitter drain on Turbo adjusted back to 6.5A .
7.5A gets hot too quick , even with the massive integrated head.

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What happened to….

“XHP70 can output more lumens, the deep and thick cooling fins of this monster are designed for XHP70. Heat-sinking is amazing, on 7.5A turbo mode the big head part gets warm quick and never get too hot.I can hold the light in hand all the time.”

Can you also provide lumen values for the XHP70 with their respective runtime?

Thanks

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JHBUDGETLIGHT wrote:
What happened to….

“XHP70 can output more lumens, the deep and thick cooling fins of this monster are designed for XHP70. Heat-sinking is amazing, on 7.5A turbo mode the big head part gets warm quick and never get too hot.I can hold the light in hand all the time.”

Can you also provide lumen values for the XHP70?

Thanks

7.5A can not pass the testing in hot weather (32 Room temperature, put it to table w/o outside-cooling , can not last 5 minutes before step-down).

Using it in outdoor at cool windy night is a different story.

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Thanks for clarifying. I was editing my comment when you replied. Do you have runtime duration for the various modes at this time?

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HaikeLite Official wrote:
Final products coming soon ;

OP updated:

Final UI changed a little , Added hidden Strobe and SOS modes ; Press and held 1 seconds in any status to active.

Switch 1:
Single Click-on ; Single Click-off ;

Fast double-click Turbo (Double click switch 1 in any status to acess; easy to access)
Long-press to Strobe; Long-press again to SOS

Switch 2:

Low Low-Low-Mid -High (single click to change modes ; with last mode memory)

Hidden Moonlight 1 lumens (fast double click switch 2 to acess; easy to access)

Special modes always go back to previous memory mode by single click ; (Special modes can circle among special modes by double-click or long-press)
Memory mode: Low Low-Low-Mid -High + OFF

(We call Turbo/Moonlight/Strobe/SOS as special modes)

by Switch 2, Click+hold+flash signal to lockout the light; Repeat to unlock. Tailcap-lockout also available

Temperature stepdown added to HaikeLite thrower on Turbo mode; Turbo mode can last long time (around 15 minutes)before overheat and it gets cool again fast in 2-3 minutes
Gold-plating components changed to Silver-plating
Wire changed from 20 gauge to 18 gauge

Emitter drain on Turbo adjusted back to 6.5A .
7.5A gets hot too quick , even with the massive integrated head.

You should really put turbo in the modes with switch 2. I don’t see why you don’t. Having turbo memorized would be a great option.

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blueb8llz wrote:

You should really put turbo in the modes with switch 2. I don’t see why you don’t. Having turbo memorized would be a great option.


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blueb8llz wrote:
HaikeLite Official wrote:
Final products coming soon ;

OP updated:

Final UI changed a little , Added hidden Strobe and SOS modes ; Press and held 1 seconds in any status to active.

Switch 1:
Single Click-on ; Single Click-off ;

Fast double-click Turbo (Double click switch 1 in any status to acess; easy to access)
Long-press to Strobe; Long-press again to SOS

Switch 2:

Low Low-Low-Mid -High (single click to change modes ; with last mode memory)

Hidden Moonlight 1 lumens (fast double click switch 2 to acess; easy to access)

Special modes always go back to previous memory mode by single click ; (Special modes can circle among special modes by double-click or long-press)
Memory mode: Low Low-Low-Mid -High + OFF

(We call Turbo/Moonlight/Strobe/SOS as special modes)

by Switch 2, Click+hold+flash signal to lockout the light; Repeat to unlock. Tailcap-lockout also available

Temperature stepdown added to HaikeLite thrower on Turbo mode; Turbo mode can last long time (around 15 minutes)before overheat and it gets cool again fast in 2-3 minutes
Gold-plating components changed to Silver-plating
Wire changed from 20 gauge to 18 gauge

Emitter drain on Turbo adjusted back to 6.5A .
7.5A gets hot too quick , even with the massive integrated head.

You should really put turbo in the modes with switch 2. I don’t see why you don’t. Having turbo memorized would be a great option.

1. Double-click turbo is easy to access in any mode or off.

2. We have tested this turbo-momery UI already.
When we put turbo in modes with switch 2 and memorize turbo mode, It will be confused when people double-click in memorized turbo and find the brightness has no change.
Will be like this:
Single click-Turbo brightness-Double click—still Turbo brightness—Single click to previous memoried mode—Still turbo brightness

It means when you are in memorized turbo, you click four times , the brightness has no change. Isn’t it annoying?

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Hello after a long time.

It would be nice to have a version with XHP35 HI emitter and SMO ref . Any chance of that option?

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HaikeLite Official wrote:
2. We have tested this turbo-momery UI already. When we put turbo in modes with switch 2 and memorize turbo mode, It will be confused when people double-click in memorized turbo and find the brightness has no change. Will be like this: Single click-Turbo brightness-Double click--still Turbo brightness--Single click to previous memoried mode--Still turbo brightness It means when you are in memorized turbo, you click four times , the brightness has no change. Isn't it annoying?

Interesting... I thought about this same exact problem in my firmware. I have a double-click go to turbo (same as this), then if in turbo, a double-click will go to an intense strobe, ~18 Hz. It seem natural - increasing mode intensity with each double-click. Once in strobe, double-clicks don't work anymore.

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Updated:

Price is settled..

People who has interest can send me PM.

Tom-E will get the review sample around 10th Oct.

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I'm excited about this one! It has the size to do the XHP70 some justice. Advantages over the popular XHP70 throwers, being the ThorFire S70 and Convoy L6:

  • bigger reflector diameter = more throw. 88mm head diameter compared to 74/75 mm. The important metric: inner diameter of the reflector is 72 mm (62 mm for the S70, L6 - not sure, not published in specs or reviews I could find)
  • more amps on turbo - another big factor in output and throw
  • better power plant - four 18650's vs. two 26650
  • better dual switch setup. I've always believed 2 e-switch's, or a 2 stage e-switch is the best way to go

The ingredients are top tier, but we'll see how it cooks up.

I can see some obvious issues:

  • a 4 battery tube is wide and short, so the handling and balance will be important to judge. It's one of my main concerns from the photos.
  • style and look - I really like the L2 and L6 style, but there are trade-offs with thermal management and functionality, but I do like the knurling on the top of the bezel, which sets it apart from the S70 and L6

One light that it compare with at the same level is the AceBeam K60, having the same head diameter and battery configuration. But the K60 is lighter and somewhat longer.

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Looking forward to your review Tom, the specs are very promising.

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FreeMagenta wrote:
Hello after a long time.

It would be nice to have a version with XHP35 HI emitter and SMO ref . Any chance of that option?

Regards
FM

This. I realize the XHP70 is capable of more lumens but if this is intended to be a thrower then I would think throw would take precedence over lumen output?

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Great Tom is doing the review, awesome!

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HaikeLite Official wrote:
blueb8llz wrote:
HaikeLite Official wrote:
Final products coming soon ;

OP updated:

Final UI changed a little , Added hidden Strobe and SOS modes ; Press and held 1 seconds in any status to active.

Switch 1:
Single Click-on ; Single Click-off ;

Fast double-click Turbo (Double click switch 1 in any status to acess; easy to access)
Long-press to Strobe; Long-press again to SOS

Switch 2:

Low Low-Low-Mid -High (single click to change modes ; with last mode memory)

Hidden Moonlight 1 lumens (fast double click switch 2 to acess; easy to access)

Special modes always go back to previous memory mode by single click ; (Special modes can circle among special modes by double-click or long-press)
Memory mode: Low Low-Low-Mid -High + OFF

(We call Turbo/Moonlight/Strobe/SOS as special modes)

by Switch 2, Click+hold+flash signal to lockout the light; Repeat to unlock. Tailcap-lockout also available

Temperature stepdown added to HaikeLite thrower on Turbo mode; Turbo mode can last long time (around 15 minutes)before overheat and it gets cool again fast in 2-3 minutes
Gold-plating components changed to Silver-plating
Wire changed from 20 gauge to 18 gauge

Emitter drain on Turbo adjusted back to 6.5A .
7.5A gets hot too quick , even with the massive integrated head.

You should really put turbo in the modes with switch 2. I don’t see why you don’t. Having turbo memorized would be a great option.

1. Double-click turbo is easy to access in any mode or off.

2. We have tested this turbo-momery UI already.
When we put turbo in modes with switch 2 and memorize turbo mode, It will be confused when people double-click in memorized turbo and find the brightness has no change.
Will be like this:
Single click-Turbo brightness-Double click—still Turbo brightness—Single click to previous memoried mode—Still turbo brightness

It means when you are in memorized turbo, you click four times , the brightness has no change. Isn’t it annoying?

I know double clicking for turbo is quick but for those of us that like to keep highest mode at turn on can find this annoying. A single click is still easier than double clicking. I use most of my lights including this new haikelite on turbo only, and if I did need to use a lower mode, I’d just change modes.

So with the ui now, after double clicking to get to turbo, if I double click again, nothing will change right? So it’s the same as having turbo memorized, if on turbo, double clicking will just confirm that the user is on turbo.

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Tom E wrote:
  • a 4 battery tube is wide and short, so the handling and balance will be important to judge. It’s one of my main concerns from the photos.
  • Same thought here. Haikelite mentioned it’s actually comfortable to hold. Wouldn’t a handle be awesome both in terms of ergonomics as well as esthetics?

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    blueb8llz wrote:
    HaikeLite Official wrote:
    blueb8llz wrote:
    HaikeLite Official wrote:
    Final products coming soon ;

    OP updated:

    Final UI changed a little , Added hidden Strobe and SOS modes ; Press and held 1 seconds in any status to active.

    Switch 1:
    Single Click-on ; Single Click-off ;

    Fast double-click Turbo (Double click switch 1 in any status to acess; easy to access)
    Long-press to Strobe; Long-press again to SOS

    Switch 2:

    Low Low-Low-Mid -High (single click to change modes ; with last mode memory)

    Hidden Moonlight 1 lumens (fast double click switch 2 to acess; easy to access)

    Special modes always go back to previous memory mode by single click ; (Special modes can circle among special modes by double-click or long-press)
    Memory mode: Low Low-Low-Mid -High + OFF

    (We call Turbo/Moonlight/Strobe/SOS as special modes)

    by Switch 2, Click+hold+flash signal to lockout the light; Repeat to unlock. Tailcap-lockout also available

    Temperature stepdown added to HaikeLite thrower on Turbo mode; Turbo mode can last long time (around 15 minutes)before overheat and it gets cool again fast in 2-3 minutes
    Gold-plating components changed to Silver-plating
    Wire changed from 20 gauge to 18 gauge

    Emitter drain on Turbo adjusted back to 6.5A .
    7.5A gets hot too quick , even with the massive integrated head.

    You should really put turbo in the modes with switch 2. I don’t see why you don’t. Having turbo memorized would be a great option.

    1. Double-click turbo is easy to access in any mode or off.

    2. We have tested this turbo-momery UI already.
    When we put turbo in modes with switch 2 and memorize turbo mode, It will be confused when people double-click in memorized turbo and find the brightness has no change.
    Will be like this:
    Single click-Turbo brightness-Double click—still Turbo brightness—Single click to previous memoried mode—Still turbo brightness

    It means when you are in memorized turbo, you click four times , the brightness has no change. Isn’t it annoying?

    I know double clicking for turbo is quick but for those of us that like to keep highest mode at turn on can find this annoying. A single click is still easier than double clicking. I use most of my lights including this new haikelite on turbo only, and if I did need to use a lower mode, I’d just change modes.

    So with the ui now, after double clicking to get to turbo, if I double click again, nothing will change right? So it’s the same as having turbo memorized, if on turbo, double clicking will just confirm that the user is on turbo.

    Thumbs Up thanks for sharing your thought.

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