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I’m waiting only XHP35 Hi + SMO reflector version.

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Barkuti wrote:

Exaggerated lumen numbers those seem, Yoda says.

I have some doubts in the claimed lumen values too. According to djozz measurements the N2 bin emits 4600 lumens at 7 amperes. For the N4 bin the Cree Product Characterisation Tools shows an advantage of about 7.6 % over the N2 Bin. This would imply less than 5000 lumens at the best for N4 bin. And losses (lens e.g.) have not been taken into account yet.
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leaftye wrote:
That link is in the first post too. Tom E, did you find out if your review light has shipped? I have no indication that mine has shipped yet, but I just ordered it yesterday. Is anyone else reviewing it? To be clear, I'm not reviewing it.

No, no word at all. Think'n there's been delays, but not sure. Waiting for a pm or a post here.

 

Have you checked on Dale's #'s for his XHP70's? I trust his measurements more than specs at this point. I know modders have gotten at least 6,000 lumens but not sure of the amps. They might be quoting estimates based on raw LED output at those amps, not sure.

 

Edit: Just checked my notes, and have to agree with you guys:

My Convoy L6 with an R100 resistor mod using a N4 2A XHP-70 LED:

  • On LK5000's @4.20V: 7.24A at the tail/clamp meter, @start: 4,801 lms, @30 secs: 4,553 lms, 96 kcd (taken at 5m) for 620 meters

 Of course there may be differences between the two lights (drivers, MCPCB's, reflector, lens, etc.), but I definitely think a comparison has merit, and it's "in the ballpark". Mine and Dale's #'s are always close since we use the same meter and same PVC light box design made by the same guy. Also note I measured amps at the tail, not at the LED so possible that 7.24A is lower (or higher?) at the LED.

 

Just more fyi

Though it's a new company, these guys are experienced at launching new flashlights as you probably could tell, and with the recent change of the firmware as requested by us here for keeping turbo in the main list of modes, I'm sure it added days of delay. They do want to be sure the light is as solid as could be upon launch, so I don't mind waiting a little longer to be sure it's more fully tested. I work in the firmware/product business so I know what happens when you think you are in the final days - the typical 5% rule: 95% done, but the last 5% takes 50% of the time thing...

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Tom E wrote:

Just more fyi


Though it’s a new company, these guys are experienced at launching new flashlights as you probably could tell, and with the recent change of the firmware as requested by us here for keeping turbo in the main list of modes, I’m sure it added days of delay. They do want to be sure the light is as solid as could be upon launch, so I don’t mind waiting a little longer to be sure it’s more fully tested. I work in the firmware/product business so I know what happens when you think you are in the final days – the typical 5% rule: 95% done, but the last 5% takes 50% of the time thing…

I think this holds true for so many businesses. I think you can apply the 20/80 rule here as well; the last 20% of the work requires 80% of the effort. I was personally quite impressed with how fast Haikelite implemented the changes into their design. This was actually a point of concern; I hope they don’t rush things… Simple things like the button plate that was recently manufactured; is the light still waterproof? It probably is, but you know, this kind of stuff is in the back of my mind…

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Just got word! Sample should be shipping this weekend for the review. The delay sounds like it was getting the flat finish anodizing done well - not too flat so won't mark up as easy.

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you reviewing the light Tom E?

the single XHP70 thrower or tripple XHP70 ?

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Nicolicous wrote:
you reviewing the light Tom E? the single XHP70 thrower or tripple XHP70 ?

Yes - this light in this thread, the thrower - actually the model name is MT07, while the flooder is the MT03, both shown/listed here: http://haikelite.top/index.php/products.html. Dunno why, but the OP is not updated to show the new model name.

I should be getting the CW version, N4 bin.

 

 

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cool

looking forward to the review for triple XHP70 flooder Big Smile

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6000 lumens sounds awfully optimistic. I’ll be disappointed if they can’t meet their own claim, and even more so if it can’t match a stock Convoy L6. That said, I just need it to light up the dumpsters from the bay door of the shop. A mildly modded 6x XML SRK can almost do it.

The low mode should be lower.

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Show this light to some Native Americans, and tell them: “tatanka! tatanka!”

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Single, MT07 Buffalo, Max Lumens 5000 ; beam range 750 meter
Triple, MT03 Devourer, Max 8760 Lumens

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leaftye wrote:
6000 lumens sounds awfully optimistic. I'll be disappointed if they can't meet their own claim, and even more so if it can't match a stock Convoy L6. That said, I just need it to light up the dumpsters from the bay door of the shop. A mildly modded 6x XML SRK can almost do it.

They updated the OP to 5,000 lumens, not 6,000 any longer. This is more realistic.

The distance is rated in the OP at 750 meters which is about 140 kcd. I measured my stock L6 at 78 kcd, and modded to 7.2A at the tail, got 96 kcd.

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Thanks for catching that update. Hopefully it’ll do an honest 5000 lumens. That’s still damn good, and 140 kcd is damn good too if it’ll really do it. Am I actually their first buyer? Btw, I got the NW version. The spec game is risky, and so is the reliability. Hopefully I don’t end up regretting this decision.

The low mode should be lower.

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You ordered one from their website? I really dunno - no shipping notice yet? I don't think they will be ready til this weekend, at the earliest.

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I would be interested in XHP-35 HI for throw as well. But only if the light is fully constant-current regulated (no step-downs) and has the two switches for mode memory.

I really like the looks of this light. Looks promising!

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Yep, I ordered through their website. Full price. I didn’t even try for a reviewer discount because I know I won’t find time to do a review. I tried ordering it earlier, but Haikelight didn’t respond to my pm, which is annoying since they asked for inquiries via pm didn’t they?

The low mode should be lower.

Reviews: Efan IMR18350 700mAh 10.5A, <a href="http://

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Looks interesting. Looking forward for the review

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Amy news?

The low mode should be lower.

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Any news?

And any news for XHP35 Hi + SMO ?

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Noth'n yet for me. Delays again, most likely.

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Mine was supposed to ship yesterday. Did it?

The low mode should be lower.

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I got notice mine shipped, so good news!

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Tom E wrote:

I got notice mine shipped, so good news!

I think Some guys will get it next week

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Update:

Some Beamshot outdoor (Reflector OP) ( OP reflector VS SMO reflector comparison will be done tomorrow night)

Here we go (Please ignore the red-color switch led on the proto; final products are with Blue color switch, Tom E will receive one final light for review next week)

MT07 CW VS Car High-beam (MT07 much brighter and much much longer distance )

A iron tower (400m-500m away)

MT07 light up the tower

Borrowed a Convoy L6 from a friend (He told it’s a 5000K NW)

Left L6 ; Right MT07

MT07 can not call it a pure thrower ; But shot distance is still nice

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Nice, appears to be a fair bit brighter than the L6.

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It should be brighter then the L6 with the extra current, makes me want to build a TA driver for my L6 lol.

Do you have any beam shots on a white wall in the lower modes to show if there is any “donut hole” in the beam?

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Texas_Ace wrote:
It should be brighter then the L6 with the extra current, makes me want to build a TA driver for my L6 lol.

Do you have any beam shots on a white wall in the lower modes to show if there is any “donut hole” in the beam?

Only very close to wall (about half meter),you can see a tiny dark hole. Over half meter the donut hole can barely been seen.

SMO reflector has a donut hole. Will do a comparison between OP and SMO tomorrow night.

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Beamshots looks good, it seems to be considerably throwier than the L6. HaikeLite can you also do a side by side white wall shot vs the L6 at about 3-5 meters using the OP reflector? Thanks

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will34 wrote:
Beamshots looks good, it seems to be considerably throwier than the L6. HaikeLite can you also do a side by side white shot vs the L6 at about 3-5 meters using the OP reflector? Thanks

Indeed, I would also like to see this.

Do you have a neutral white version for comparison while you are at it?

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will34 wrote:
Beamshots looks good, it seems to be considerably throwier than the L6. HaikeLite can you also do a side by side white wall shot vs the L6 at about 3-5 meters using the OP reflector? Thanks

Yes, will do it tomorrow.

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We have NW version to compare.

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