Looking to buy a few big throwers for some coworkers. Lights will be used to see animal eye shine up to around 600+m. A flashlight will illuminate eye shine farther than rated beam distance. Want to keep battery(s) in light for charging. Need around 3 hours runtime at sufficient output. I was figuring probably 2 26650s to get desired output/runtime. A 2 26650 long battery tube would be optimal. I’m not crazy about the fat “Soda can” lights. Would consider other battery types as long as they don’t have to be removed to charge. Options?
What price range are you trying to stay in that will help narrow it down some. Not many 26650 lights that recharge in the light. Its preferred to external charge and consider the USB ports as like a no other option type thing. I’m not sure if there are any lights that charge batteries in series like that. There are good throwers out there for sure. You might wanna look at the new maxtoch 2x shooter. 1000 yards, it runs off 2 18650 batteries. I think it runs for at least a couple hours maybe 2 1/2 off full 3400mah 18650 it doesn’t internal charge. I believe the manker u11 is rated at 700 yards of throw it takes 1 26650 it does have internal charging but not going to last near 3 hours on hturbo then you have things like the thrunite tn40 and tn42 I believe one of them has internal charging. But run on 18650. Flashlight internal charging is OK on some lights they usually over or under charge. Some do it well, your higher end 200-300 lights from nitecore or thru night would probably be OK to do that. But like with vaping units its there if there’s no other option but its best to external charge. You could get a few 2 bay chargers really cheap. Like 6-8$ a piece and have the co workers use them when the lights die or end the shift. In all reality if its going to be used on a 8+ hour shift you probably need to rotate 2-3 sets of batteries per light. Something with at least 1 amp charging would have a set done every 2 1/2 hours or so. If you want to spend more on a charger like a sv2 rocket. They can charge batteries at 2 amps and looking at hour and half or so per pair of batteries. If your using s truck to drive around looking for wild life most chargers will work off a cigarette lighter. I believe the sv2 comes with a cigarette plug. I know the liito Kala 202 is a 2 bay 1 amp charger that runs off a USB connection as long as its a 2 amp port it can charge two batteries at one amp. I believe the new mile thrower from thrunite has a battery pack option. I think it chargers internally but its like a $300 light I believe. Its moneys not s issue might be worth looking at. But in my opinion I say maxtoch 2x shooter is your best bet between 1100 yards 2 hours of run time. And around $70. Just have to externally charge
Maybe a dedicated thrower such as the TN42, with 4x18650 you can get more than 2 hours at 1000+ lumens. I can’t think of any 26650 thrower with 2 hours runtime while being rechargeable.
Scrap the “charging in light” requirement and the “three hour run time” and you will have a lot more choices. Don’t think any big thrower matches those requirements.
So I’m trying to replace cheap 12v and rechargeable spotlights with something better if there is a better option. Say budget is $200 including batteries and charger. Charging in light I guess isn’t a deal breaker. And 3+ hr runtime just needs to be enough output/throw to illuminate eyes atleast to 400m. For example an olight S2 will illuminate eyes at 200+ meters on turbo and it isn’t a thrower at all.
I would second the Maxtoch 2X shooter. It is not 26650, but it will have a long runtime on lower levels that will still throw a lot. And it is probably the most inexpensive serious thrower at around $90.
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I’mma still stick with the maxtoch 2x shooter. Its medium mode still reaches like 700+ yards. If you order batteries from imr they have a 15% off code for blf now blf15
4 batteries is roughly $20 6 would be about 30 that would give 1 light 3 sets for a night. If its only used for 3 hours total a night then 2 sets of batteries per light would be fine. And you can recharge the Panasonic 18650b well over 500 times and still have decent capacity left. And you can charge in the vehicle if you needed to.
If you only need to illuminate 400 yards a few c8s would fit the bill. I have some convoy c8s fully built that will reach 700 yards. That would be much cheaper. Djburke could build you 3 c8s throwers for 35-38$ a light I believe. Also realize when a light says its rated for 700 yards that means at 700 yards its .25 lux or equivalent of moonlight. Its best to take about 2/3 of the rated distance for actual use. My c8 rated at over 700 yards I can use out at 500 yards. It runs off a single battery. And don’t have to worry about the whole series batteries and keeping married pairs of batteries. Either dedomed xml2 u4 or my favorite dedomed xpg2 s4 2b. Even the new production ones throw great
I don’t have one, but there were several threads about the Yezl Y3. You used to be able to get it in a 1x26650 or with an extension for 2x26650.
EDIT: It doesn’t do in-place charging though…
Convoy L2 with mod is good option.
You can get on max mode around 300k Candela at 6A on dedomed XPL or XML2.
manker u21
What about a red XP-E2? You could probably keep your runtimes up a little better with that which might broaden your battery choices.
Is there a reason you can carry the light but not spare cells to get what you want? You know that there are cell carriers that will allow safe carrying of spares?
Heck, even your automobile requires a fill up now and then when the tank gets near empty.
I still say look at the 2x shooter if you do need long long ranges. If you choose that onr thr batteries need to go into married sets. but if you need 400-600 for just eyeball reflections a few fully built c8s will do the trick and around $35-40 a light shipped from djburke. For $200 budget you could have 4 lights charger and cells with a couple spares per light. A 6 bay charger is like $30 if there are 3 coworkers each one could have a light with 2 spare batteries and your set and light makes #4 at the end of each night just recharge the cells and when you come in the next day there are ready to go off the charger. And with single cell lights doesn’t matter if batteries go in different lights every night. Or you could mark them if you wish.
I was looking for internal charging to so folks would never/rarely need to remove cells. These are not flashlight people.
Any news on the acebeam T30. 2 26650 with magnetic charger. Almost 1100m throw. 10 hours at 700 lumens and 2 hrs at 1350 lumens. Looks ideal on paper. Don’t know about tint, but for a thrower it doesn’t matter as much and normal people are not likely to care unless tint is terrible.
For thrower neutral or even warm tint.
Maybe you should consider the manker u21 I think it is, 26650 750 meter throw. Internal charging. I don’t know anything about the acebeam lights. They were always way over priced for me. It maybe the only light I know of that charges 2 26650 its not really the safest thing in the world to charge batteries in series in a flashlight that’s why every light you see with internal charging is a single cell light. If something goes wrong its a pipe bomb as it is depending on chemistry of batteries used ICR goes bad you’ll probably lose a few fingers with double cell. The imr inr will just vent unless in a fire. With two cells its twice the things to go wrong.
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I have both the Manker U21 and the Convoy L6 and for most of my needs these are the only lights that I would ever need.
I am in a process now of paring down the tools and equipment needs. The two lights I mentioned, a XTAR SP2 charger, and spare batteries now fulfill my needs.
Convoy L6
Acebeam EC60:
- USB rechargeable 26650
- XHP35 HI emitter
- 2hrs at 1200 lumens
- 5hrs at 500 lumens
- 90,000 cd
- 600 meter throw