The GT, Proto V2 arrived!, the BLF special giga thrower

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Kendo wrote:
Hi all, good to see the new proto v2 cant wait till full production. I hope im on the list. Is there anyway of paying up front. Actualy i dont even know if im on the list. I hope i am.

Check post #1 on page 1 and use ctrl + F to find your name (I see you are on the list)

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I prefer Samsung 30Q cells, so I am also able to use them in high drain flashlights is not needed in the GT. They have just 10-15% less capacity.

I could be wrong, but from what I’ve learned on this forum you should always keep your sets of cells together if your’e going to be using them in sets in a multi cell light. If you take one of those batteries and put it in another light and use it more than the other 7 cells in your set, later down the road you could run into a problem where one cell has less capacity than the rest. Basically what I’m saying is that you shouldn’t buy 8 cells for your gt and then occasionally swap one of them into another light for awhile and then use it again in the set of 8.

I believe this is a safety issue, hopefully someone smarter than me can chime in.
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Kingjohn wrote:
I prefer Samsung 30Q cells, so I am also able to use them in high drain flashlights is not needed in the GT. They have just 10-15% less capacity.

I could be wrong, but from what I’ve learned on this forum you should always keep your sets of cells together if your’e going to be using them in sets in a multi cell light. If you take one of those batteries and put it in another light and use it more than the other 7 cells in your set, later down the road you could run into a problem where one cell has less capacity than the rest. Basically what I’m saying is that you shouldn’t buy 8 cells for your gt and then occasionally swap one of them into another light for awhile and then use it again in the set of 8.

I believe this is a safety issue, hopefully someone smarter than me can chime in.

That’s correct, ideally you only use those cells for the GT.

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Kendo wrote:
Hi all, good to see the new proto v2 cant wait till full production. I hope im on the list. Is there anyway of paying up front. Actualy i dont even know if im on the list. I hope i am.

1210 you are good to go

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Is the new v2 prototype unit come with direct charging ? Or have to remove the batt for external charging. Tq

External charging, I never trust internal charging, I always prefer to charge the cells externally where I can control how they charge.

Although the main reason it doesn’t have internal charging is that to charge 8 cells internally could take 28 hours.

MiBoxer is coming out with an 8 cell charger soon, according to Leo

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I am in.

can wait to take this camping

thanks to everyone involved in the project a truly beautiful light

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RobertB wrote:
Texas_Ace wrote:
Peter Wijono wrote:
Is the new v2 prototype unit come with direct charging ? Or have to remove the batt for external charging. Tq

External charging, I never trust internal charging, I always prefer to charge the cells externally where I can control how they charge.

Although the main reason it doesn’t have internal charging is that to charge 8 cells internally could take 28 hours.

MiBoxer is coming out with an 8 cell charger soon, according to Leo

just get what i got, a sky rc charger, and charge em at 3 amps x4
can do 8 cells in hour and a half or so Thumbs Up
lifes too short for slow arse chargers i say Silly

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I'm in, please add me to the list if possible, also how will I know if I've been added or not?

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Yes!!! I am 1065 on the list!!! I wonder if the light will be shipped out by April 2018 because that is when my next CPF meet will be…. lols….

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I’m in, please add me to the list if possible, also how will I know if I’ve been added or not?

List on first page. Might take a few days for Miller to update. Patience is key.
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nodoubt wrote:
RobertB wrote:
Texas_Ace wrote:
Peter Wijono wrote:
Is the new v2 prototype unit come with direct charging ? Or have to remove the batt for external charging. Tq

External charging, I never trust internal charging, I always prefer to charge the cells externally where I can control how they charge.

Although the main reason it doesn’t have internal charging is that to charge 8 cells internally could take 28 hours.

MiBoxer is coming out with an 8 cell charger soon, according to Leo

just get what i got, a sky rc charger, and charge em at 3 amps x4
can do 8 cells in hour and a half or so Thumbs Up
lifes too short for slow arse chargers i say Silly


What does the sky rc charger cost (what model are you talking about) and how can it charge 8 cells if it’s 3A x 4?

The Gyrfalcon All-88 does 1A x 8 and runs about $58.

The Liitokala lii-500 does 1A x 4 and costs $25. So you can get 2 for $50.

The Miboxer C4-12 can do 3A x 4 and was on sale for $32. You can get 2 for $65 and charge at 1A, 1.5A, 2A, 2.5A or 3A each, whichever is safest for your particular cells.

Miboxer is planning on a C8 version which might be cheaper than $65 (price not known yet), but it is still a ways out.

So there’s lots of options, you just need to decide if 1 big charger or 2 smaller chargers best fit your needs.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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Kingjohn wrote:
I prefer Samsung 30Q cells, so I am also able to use them in high drain flashlights is not needed in the GT. They have just 10-15% less capacity.

I could be wrong, but from what I’ve learned on this forum you should always keep your sets of cells together if your’e going to be using them in sets in a multi cell light. If you take one of those batteries and put it in another light and use it more than the other 7 cells in your set, later down the road you could run into a problem where one cell has less capacity than the rest. Basically what I’m saying is that you shouldn’t buy 8 cells for your gt and then occasionally swap one of them into another light for awhile and then use it again in the set of 8.

I believe this is a safety issue, hopefully someone smarter than me can chime in.
Your right, the cells should be matched and married. Just keep in mind that Kingjohn said that if they were no longer needed in the GT they could be used elsewhere.

I read it as if he had 8 matched and married cells, then decided it was too heavy and he didn’t need the extra run time so he kept 4 cells in the GT and then split up the other 4 to use in different lights. That is perfectly fine.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

6 NarsilM user videos
http://bit.ly/narsil-vid1

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Texas_Ace wrote:

Thanks for the testing TA.

2490 lm — 2 A
2630 lm — 2.5 A

If I’m not mistaken, max ramping is 2 A and turbo 2.5 A, any plans on lowering these numbers?

More than 7 8.5 W for 140 lm doesn’t really seem worth it.

edit: wrong math it’s more like 8.5 W

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noetik wrote:
Texas_Ace wrote:

Thanks for the testing TA.

2490 lm — 2 A
2630 lm — 2.5 A

If I’m not mistaken, max ramping is 2 A and turbo 2.5 A, any plans on lowering these numbers?

6 W for 140 lm doesn’t really seem worth it.

That is exactly why we dropped the ramp max down to 2A. Going from ramp max to turbo is hardly even noticeable when you see it happen.

No need to go below 2A, that is a good output for the xhp35 before it really starts to drop in efficiency. Turbo is for people that want every last bit out of the light. I would not use it long term, while the LED handles it fine it sure doesn’t do it any favors and it figures that it will wear out faster. Better to just use the ramp max.

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Wow, I just noticed that this GB has over 1200 people on the list! I was hoping to crack 1000 when I started on this project, glad to see I didn’t overestimate the desire for such a halo light.

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Texas_Ace wrote:
Wow, I just noticed that this GB has over 1200 people on the list! I was hoping to crack 1000 when I started on this project, glad to see I didn’t overestimate the desire for such a halo light.

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In all seriousness, it’s awesome and we can’t wait to hold them in our hands! TYVM for everything you’ve all done on this project! Big Smile

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I ‘Ctrl-F’-ed on the first page of this thread, and I didn’t find my name. Can I please be added for one? I had originally put my name down back in post #6451, and I wonder if I was accidentally missed.

Thanks to everyone involved in making this light happen – making something this great takes a lot of time and effort, and I appreciate it!

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Texas_Ace wrote:
noetik wrote:

Thanks for the testing TA.

2490 lm — 2 A
2630 lm — 2.5 A

If I’m not mistaken, max ramping is 2 A and turbo 2.5 A, any plans on lowering these numbers?

8.5 W for 140 lm doesn’t really seem worth it.


That is exactly why we dropped the ramp max down to 2A. Going from ramp max to turbo is hardly even noticeable when you see it happen.

No need to go below 2A, that is a good output for the xhp35 before it really starts to drop in efficiency. Turbo is for people that want every last bit out of the light. I would not use it long term, while the LED handles it fine it sure doesn’t do it any favors and it figures that it will wear out faster. Better to just use the ramp max.

I agree 2A is the sweet spot.
Only downside, if you don’t want to use 2.5A, would be loosing the 2 clicks to max, no biggie.
Upside is when a xhp35.2 or other new led, that likes a bit more current comes out, one could just swap out the mcpcb and have the extra current with turbo, without having to mod the driver.

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Am I on the GT list?
adamshoward@earthlink.net? I e-mailed about 1 month ago to be added?
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adamshoward wrote:
Am I on the GT list?
I e-mailed about 1 month ago to be added?
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Go to post 1, ctr f, put in your name and tadah

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And +1 on removing your email address, unless you like spam galore Silly

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please add me to the list

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So what upgrades we are still waiting or are they starting production soon?

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Texas_Ace wrote:
Lumintop should have some batteries they will offer for sale with the light to save on shipping although the type and cost has not been released yet.

For the charger, there are a lot of good options. You do not need an 8 cell charger, you can use a 4 cell charger as well and do them in 2 batches.

Also the light will work perfectly fine with 4 cells, you will just get half the runtime naturally.

For the cells themselves, I prefer the higher capacity cells like the Sanyo / Panasonic GA or the Samsung 35E. Although if you find a good deal on somethign else, pretty much anything from the major brands will work fine.

The good brands being:

Samsung
LG
Sony
Sanyo / Panasonic

There are some other brands like Efest and keeppower ect that are a bit more hit and miss but should work as well.


http://budgetlightforum.com/node/57205 WinkWinkWink
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Jaza wrote:
So what upgrades we are still waiting or are they starting production soon?

The LED has been settle and I suppose this is as good a time as any to tell ya’ll that the host has officially gone into production!

Still a few minor details we are talking over but nothing that should cause any major delays.

No word on when to expect the finished light yet but at this rate in the next few weeks seems reasonable.

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noetik wrote:
I agree 2A is the sweet spot. Only downside, if you don’t want to use 2.5A, would be loosing the 2 clicks to max, no biggie. Upside is when a xhp35.2 or other new led, that likes a bit more current comes out, one could just swap out the mcpcb and have the extra current with turbo, without having to mod the driver.

If you double click to turbo and then hold the button for just a second it will drop back to the ramp max.

Although for about $5 you can get the parts you need to re-flash the driver and you could then setup the driver with whatever max you wanted. If it was asked I bet Tom could even make a pre-made hex file with a lower turbo output.

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thijsco19 wrote:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/57205 WinkWinkWink

Ah, that would be the 35E deal that was talked about.

Yes, that is about the best deal you will find for 35E cells for the GT.

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Kingjohn wrote:
I prefer Samsung 30Q cells, so I am also able to use them in high drain flashlights is not needed in the GT. They have just 10-15% less capacity.

I could be wrong, but from what I’ve learned on this forum you should always keep your sets of cells together if your’e going to be using them in sets in a multi cell light. If you take one of those batteries and put it in another light and use it more than the other 7 cells in your set, later down the road you could run into a problem where one cell has less capacity than the rest. Basically what I’m saying is that you shouldn’t buy 8 cells for your gt and then occasionally swap one of them into another light for awhile and then use it again in the set of 8.

I believe this is a safety issue, hopefully someone smarter than me can chime in.

You are absolutely right. If I need only one cell for another flashlight, I will always take a different one…
All should be used the same amount of time…
And before using them together again in one light, I will fully top them up all together in the same charger.

All should have the same level of wear especially in a 4S1P light!
And none must have been over discharged, otherwise the danger of a mismatch is high.

If they are no longer perfectly matched, you can still use them together in a 1S4P light (the BLF Q8 for example).
In a 4P configuration, if your have a cell that delivers less power, the others will take over.
Here you just have to ensure, that the others can deliver a higher current in such a case.
(Your have to know the specs of the cells)

But if all 4 cells are always used together in the same light, you most probably needn’t care for all those things…

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Could you please put me on the list for the new BLF GT flashlight. Thank you. Berts.

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