[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping.

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Ummm, no, a silver reflector would weigh only slightly more than aluminum. Why? Because no person in their right mind would make the entire reflector out of silver (check the price of silver compared to aluminum). Instead it would be put there through vapor deposition over a reflector base and the layer would be quite thin since that’s all that’s required. Or do folks think that the silvered mirrors on the Hubble are solid silver? Or the mirrors in modern telescopes are? Again, all that’s required is a microscopically thin layer to get the benefits, and not solid silver.

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For the questions about the registered mail shipping after DHL.

NO ONE knew this was going to happen nor wanted, desired or even approved of it happening.

Far as the team knew the orders would be shipping in the order they were paid and that was that.

Everything after that was sprung on us just like everyone else.

Now there is some logic to why they did what they did, so I can’t blame them too much. For example DHL shipments will have relatively few if any issues, they will arrive quickly and with minimal abuse on the trip compared to registered mail.

So it makes sense to send these out first and get the lights in peoples hands.

Registered mail on the other hand will have some issues, just the nature of the beast. You will not ship hundreds of registered mail packages of this size without some percentage of them having issues, it makes sense to have these inevitable negative experiences come after a bunch of positive ones and not vice versa.

First impressions are everything in a project like this.

There are even more factors as well and all things considered, I would have had a hard time not doing the DHL shipments first if I was in their shoes.

That said, the real mistake they made was not in shipping DHL first but in not letting us know this would happen ahead of time. There I 100% agree they messed up.

The language barrier makes communicating difficult and details like this tend to get left out as it ends up taking 3 emails to understand exactly what was said.

At this point they must be out of DHL orders to ship so by process of elimination registered mail must be going out soon.

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Oh, and to the user that was missed and added to the list as 1762, know that when he asked, he was not on the list for the 3rd one. I updated the list after seeing the request posts from my phone. I don’t generally post from my phone though, just not worth the hassle.

Also, as he pointed out and is now added to the OP, the Team-Giggles account has had the PM’s disabled as no one actively monitors that account. So your message could just be lost for weeks on end before someone logs into it.

If you have a question or issue please send them to Neal or myself at this point.

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BrianK wrote:
Ummm, no, a silver reflector would weigh only slightly more than aluminum. Why? Because no person in their right mind would make the entire reflector out of silver (check the price of silver compared to aluminum). Instead it would be put there through vapor deposition over a reflector base and the layer would be quite thin since that’s all that’s required. Or do folks think that the silvered mirrors on the Hubble are solid silver? Or the mirrors in modern telescopes are? Again, all that’s required is a microscopically thin layer to get the benefits, and not solid silver.

I think you’re right. Only the silver oxidizes very fast to it would have to be coated with clearcoat where we are again with orange skin

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Absolutely. That wouldn’t be hard to do Alux. Even if it’s a coating of aluminum it’ll oxidize so that should be coated also. Clear coat might be more of a problem with a telescope due to the absolute requirement for accuracy. But I’m out of my knowledge base when discussing clear coat. It would be far easier to clearcoat a flashlight reflector though since we aren’t discussing fractions of a wavelength of light. Maybe the same AR coating that is put on a lense would do it? I’ll leave it to the manufacturers to handle. Smile

Would it be worth doing for the slight gain in output? There might be less expensive ways to get that gain then by silver and clear coat.

Just brain storming now… I was thinking platinum also, but I didn’t look up it’s reflectivity. That metal doesn’t oxidize. Of course we’re back to cost and I have no idea if it can be vapor deposited. Gold would also work. I know gold can be vapor deposited. Just look at a NASA astronauts face shield. Again, cost.

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I would like to extend a special thanks to Lumintop for the great work they have done from the day we first contacted them right through today. The amount of work they are doing is unbelievable. Their expertise is immense. It is obvious Lumentop is an excellent manufacturer. We are very fortunate they are making these lights for us. They make it very clear they are willing and able to do the most possible.

I don’t know how everyone else feels, but if it took a year before my light came, because that was the time needed to make it as perfect as possible, I would be delighted they took all the time needed to do it they way know is best. It takes as long as it takes.

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D10ten wrote:
Just received my GT with batteries. A big thank you to the GT team and Neal!

Was that through DHL or registered mail?

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Y’all make the reflector plating process sound simple. It’s not. The final finish used won’t stick to the raw aluminum as machined, so what appears to be brass is applied first. This fills the machining marks, normally, and leaves a more perfect finish for the final reflective coating. (Yes, I’ve hand sanded the coatings off down to bare metal too many times) At any rate, the people who make reflectors specialize in it, pretty sure they know what they’re doing.

As a modder, I detest plastic reflectors. If I know up front that a light has a plastic reflector I choose not to buy it.

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In case anyone missed it, I’ll probably repost this every now and then.

I have some news on emitter swaps.

I talked to Richard at Mountain Electronics (RMM on these forums and a sponsor here) and told him there might be more than a few guys with GT’S interested in swapping to a cooler tint. He says that if you send in your stock mcpcb to him and buy one of his new XHP35-HI emitters, he will reflow it for free! He has 2 choices right now, 5,000k and 5700k tint. They are both the same D4 brightness bin as the stock GT 4000k emitter.

The cost of both are under $8, plus the shipping cost there and back. I’m in Texas and shipping a small package from him is usually $2 to $3. So I would estimate the entire cost at under $15.

From his store:

Quote:
BLF GT LED SWAP

​Don’t like the tint of your BLF GT XHP35 HI?  Send us your MCPCB and we’ll swap it for this one. 

Please ship your BLF GT MCPCB to us and we will swap it, test it, clean it, and send it back to you.

Your entire order will not ship until we receive the LED and get it ready to ship.

Ship to:

Mountain Electronics LLC
8076 S. Box Canyon Rd.
West Jordan, UT 84081

Here is the link to the 5000k.

Here is the link to the 5700k.

If your outside of the USA, then I’m not sure what shipping would be or if he even does international shipping. You’d have to contact him for details.

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Sirking strikes again! Lol

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BrianK wrote:
Absolutely. That wouldn’t be hard to do Alux. Even if it’s a coating of aluminum it’ll oxidize so that should be coated also.
For best results, tens to hundreds of Al layers are needed. As the last layer of aluminum, SiO2 is used. It’s better than silver.
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I really appreciate the kind of topics you post here. Thanks for sharing us a great information that is actually helpful. Good day! Benefits of Cucumber

Oh great, how relevant. Benefits of cucumber in a giant throw forum built flashlight thread.

Bloody spam.

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Mmmmmmmmmmm cucumber & spam , arrrrrgghhh

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Maybe the cuc makes a handle? Get lost when your cells die you have snack food?

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A snack handle – this is a great idea. Would lumintop be open to developing this? If anyone has a vegetable cnc machine we can develop a prototype on…

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Threadneedle wrote:
sirking79 wrote:
I really appreciate the kind of topics you post here. Thanks for sharing us a great information that is actually helpful. Good day!

Oh great, how relevant. Benefits of cucumber in a giant throw forum built flashlight thread.

Bloody spam.

Don’t quote the link for him!

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Gj wrote:
Threadneedle wrote:
sirking79 wrote:
I really appreciate the kind of topics you post here. Thanks for sharing us a great information that is actually helpful. Good day!

Oh great, how relevant. Benefits of cucumber in a giant throw forum built flashlight thread.

Bloody spam.

Don’t quote the link for him!

I know I know, I shouldn’t have done that. But have you seen the benefits of cucumber in a flashlight?

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Threadneedle wrote:
Gj wrote:
Threadneedle wrote:
sirking79 wrote:
I really appreciate the kind of topics you post here. Thanks for sharing us a great information that is actually helpful. Good day!

Oh great, how relevant. Benefits of cucumber in a giant throw forum built flashlight thread.

Bloody spam.

Don’t quote the link for him!

I know I know, I shouldn’t have done that. But have you seen the benefits of cucumber in a flashlight?

I always wonder about the shapes some plastic things have.
Why the shape of a cucumber?
Where they left with some free plastic molds that they used and turned into a flashlight?
Or did someone seriously say “Yes thats it we’ll put a flashlight into the shape of a cucumber”
“you know what throw on a life hammer”
“Roight jobs done well done lads”

edit: looks like a handcrank vibrator

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hmm cucumber light. First active cooling flashlight?

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JasonWW wrote:
In case anyone missed it, I’ll probably repost this every now and then.

I have some news on emitter swaps.

I talked to Richard at Mountain Electronics (RMM on these forums and a sponsor here) and told him there might be more than a few guys with GT’S interested in swapping to a cooler tint. He says that if you send in your stock mcpcb to him and buy one of his new XHP35-HI emitters, he will reflow it for free! He has 2 choices right now, 5,000k and 5700k tint. They are both the same D4 brightness bin as the stock GT 4000k emitter.

The cost of both are under $8, plus the shipping cost there and back. I’m in Texas and shipping a small package from him is usually $2 to $3. So I would estimate the entire cost at under $15.

From his store:

Quote:
BLF GT LED SWAP

​Don’t like the tint of your BLF GT XHP35 HI?  Send us your MCPCB and we’ll swap it for this one. 

Please ship your BLF GT MCPCB to us and we will swap it, test it, clean it, and send it back to you.

Your entire order will not ship until we receive the LED and get it ready to ship.

Ship to:

Mountain Electronics LLC
8076 S. Box Canyon Rd.
West Jordan, UT 84081

Here is the link to the 5000k.

Here is the link to the 5700k.

If your outside of the USA, then I’m not sure what shipping would be or if he even does international shipping. You’d have to contact him for details.

I posted a link to this in the comments under the BLF GT unboxing video by VOB as well.

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JasonWW wrote:
In case anyone missed it, I’ll probably repost this every now and then.

I have some news on emitter swaps.

I talked to Richard at Mountain Electronics (RMM on these forums and a sponsor here) and told him there might be more than a few guys with GT’S interested in swapping to a cooler tint. He says that if you send in your stock mcpcb to him and buy one of his new XHP35-HI emitters, he will reflow it for free! He has 2 choices right now, 5,000k and 5700k tint. They are both the same D4 brightness bin as the stock GT 4000k emitter.

The cost of both are under $8, plus the shipping cost there and back. I’m in Texas and shipping a small package from him is usually $2 to $3. So I would estimate the entire cost at under $15.

From his store:

Quote:
BLF GT LED SWAP

​Don’t like the tint of your BLF GT XHP35 HI?  Send us your MCPCB and we’ll swap it for this one. 

Please ship your BLF GT MCPCB to us and we will swap it, test it, clean it, and send it back to you.

Your entire order will not ship until we receive the LED and get it ready to ship.

Ship to:

Mountain Electronics LLC
8076 S. Box Canyon Rd.
West Jordan, UT 84081

Here is the link to the 5000k.

Here is the link to the 5700k.

If your outside of the USA, then I’m not sure what shipping would be or if he even does international shipping. You’d have to contact him for details.

does any one in the UK know any modders dealers that could do the same job of altering the coolness… dont yet have the GT but I much prefer a bluer look

Nightcore ST-7
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BLF GT Gigathrower
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Buttkicker wrote:
JasonWW wrote:
In case anyone missed it, I’ll probably repost this every now and then.

I have some news on emitter swaps.

I talked to Richard at Mountain Electronics (RMM on these forums and a sponsor here) and told him there might be more than a few guys with GT’S interested in swapping to a cooler tint. He says that if you send in your stock mcpcb to him and buy one of his new XHP35-HI emitters, he will reflow it for free! He has 2 choices right now, 5,000k and 5700k tint. They are both the same D4 brightness bin as the stock GT 4000k emitter.

The cost of both are under $8, plus the shipping cost there and back. I’m in Texas and shipping a small package from him is usually $2 to $3. So I would estimate the entire cost at under $15.

From his store:

Quote:
BLF GT LED SWAP

​Don’t like the tint of your BLF GT XHP35 HI?  Send us your MCPCB and we’ll swap it for this one. 

Please ship your BLF GT MCPCB to us and we will swap it, test it, clean it, and send it back to you.

Your entire order will not ship until we receive the LED and get it ready to ship.

Ship to:

Mountain Electronics LLC
8076 S. Box Canyon Rd.
West Jordan, UT 84081

Here is the link to the 5000k.

Here is the link to the 5700k.

If your outside of the USA, then I’m not sure what shipping would be or if he even does international shipping. You’d have to contact him for details.

does any one in the UK know any modders dealers that could do the same job of altering the coolness… dont yet have the GT but I much prefer a bluer look

You could try James from 3tronics.co.uk

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You could try James from 3tronics.co.uk[/quote]

Looks like he has shut down

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DB Custom wrote:
If that is indeed so, the 3.9 times heavier, then the 305 gram aluminum reflector would turn into an 1186 gram silver reflector. Unless I missed something, that would mean an Silver reflector equipped GT would weigh approximately 6.9 pounds instead of 5 pounds, if a grown person could not lift 6.9 pounds I would have to wonder who carries their newborn babies for them?

You forgot the silver cost. Smile
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Threadneedle wrote:
sirking79 wrote:
I really appreciate the kind of topics you post here. Thanks for sharing us a great information that is actually helpful. Good day! Benefits of Cucumber

Oh great, how relevant. Benefits of cucumber in a giant throw forum built flashlight thread.

Bloody spam.

What tint light would best highlight my cucumber and spam sandwiches? 4000k, 5000k or 5700k?

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Pretty sure it needs the be a rosy tint.

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5700k , my favourite.

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I posted this earlier but didn’t receive any responses. Not sure what forum protocol is in those cases so I’m just reposting here:

Forgive me if somebody asked this already, but is there any plan to make different types of heads for the GT? I feel like I just want to screw a laser on there and have this massive light saber. Or a head that is pure flood? I imagine with power like that you could make a light that would let the sun retire. And I guess it would be cheaper for anyone who has a GT, because no need to buy the handle. Maybe I’m just living in a fantasy world. I know nothing about what goes in to making one of these things. All I know is I love ‘em.

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aggillator wrote:
I posted this earlier but didn’t receive any responses. Not sure what forum protocol is in those cases so I’m just reposting here:

Forgive me if somebody asked this already, but is there any plan to make different types of heads for the GT? I feel like I just want to screw a laser on there and have this massive light saber. Or a head that is pure flood? I imagine with power like that you could make a light that would let the sun retire. And I guess it would be cheaper for anyone who has a GT, because no need to buy the handle. Maybe I’m just living in a fantasy world. I know nothing about what goes in to making one of these things. All I know is I love ‘em.

There are no plans, that I’m aware of, to make different heads. There has been some (unofficial) discussion of spare parts (MCPCBs), but even spare parts are not on the table right now. All the focus is on producing enough BLF GT’s to meet the current signup list.

(I suspect the tube is much cheaper than the head anyway, so there would not be that much savings. If you had two GT heads, why not get the second tube so you could use / compare them side by side, assuming most of the cost is in the head.)

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What, cucumbers?

Pickles would make sense in a flashlight forum:
How To Make Pickles Glow

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