[PART 1] Official BLF GT Group Buy thread. Group buy officially closed! Lights shipping.

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Post 19,000!

(at the moment)

You sure about that? lol

At the moment, it was post #19,000.

I am sure about that.  ;)

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arficus wrote:
I read rumor of upcoming BLF project, 2 million cd, smaller than GT. Anyone confirm?

I think you can already get that type of light. It would probably use a tiny little 400 lumen led, I can’t remember the name, and create an extremely focused little hot spot. Or you could build an aspheric thrower. The Lance of Ra is 2.6mcd. Again, tiny little focused hot spot so these are not like a practical everyday use type of light. They are quite specialized.

The GT already falls into a small market segment with its super long distance. A 2mcd light would be in an even smaller market segment. I know I am not interested in such a light.

But no, I gave not heard of such a blf project.

Btw, here is a list of the longest throwing flashlights.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55467
Maxabeam, 52mcd, wow.

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Is there by any chance a group buy happening anytime soon again?

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Is there by any chance a group buy happening anytime soon again?

No, just retail sales. I’m sure there will be some discount codes, so not full retail prices.

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raccoon city wrote:

RobertB wrote:
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Post 19,000!


(at the moment)


You sure about that? lol

At the moment, it was post #19,000.


I am sure about that.  ;)


Wonder who was my squirrel? Just kidding. Cool
Why people delete post?

cool i'll see you when you get there

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Not that I have received any tracking number for my GT, anyone sends their GT to Vinh to be modded into CFT90 beast? I wonder how much it cost if send him our own GT? Vinh is selling USD675 for complete light though. Vinh himself is still impressed with his own mod. That is one badass self endorsement that everyone believes and it is selling like hot cakes now.

If you send in your light the cost is $490 shipped (If you live in the USA).


Thanks. Many are sending him their lights. I think it is worthy, the led alone is USD125.
5000+lumens at 1.6+Mcd is crazy.

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Yes, I remember what TA said.
Perhaps, Nial has his own opinion about this.
From the short message of Neal I can not understand this:

_“ship to Israel is expensive, can u pay the difference of shipping. $45
Regards” _

I’m in the first group.
All payments were made on time.
I bought another 8 batteries for the flashlight.
I bought a bag and a lantern cover from Neal.
Now Neal wants another $ 45.
I feel trapped.

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Neal wants me to pay another $ 45 for the shipment. I do not know what to do.
How can you pay more if his paypal is locked and cant accept payments?

I have no idea(((

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Silent_Star wrote:
Yes, I remember what TA said.
Perhaps, Nial has his own opinion about this.
From the short message of Neal I can not understand this:

_“ship to Israel is expensive, can u pay the difference of shipping. $45
Regards” _

I’m in the first group.
All payments were made on time.
I bought another 8 batteries for the flashlight.
I bought a bag and a lantern cover from Neal.
Now Neal wants another $ 45.
I feel trapped.


TA should be back on the forum later today. Let’s see what he has to say.

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I hope he can help me.
By the way, I choose a registered shipping with no batteries.
I start as a buyer in internet in 2005.
PayPal – eBay
Aliexpress
Banggood
Gearbest
US shops
Japan shops
Europa shops
Never nobody do not ask me about extra for shipping.

That’s why such a request made me confused.
I have vague suspicions that the sender simply does not know where Israel is.)))

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I paid extra for the shipment to make things easier but, according to the latest official data, it was delivered to someone more than two months ago in Dayton, OH – USA because “it seems they change to send to US because the expensive shipping fees to Uruguay”

PS. TA was informed at the time, more than two weeks ago, but still has not gotten anything from Neal

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g_sintornillos wrote:
I paid extra for the shipment to make things easier but, according to the latest official data, it was delivered to someone more than two months ago in Dayton, OH – USA because “it seems they change to send to US because the expensive shipping fees to Uruguay”

PS. TA was informed at the time, more than two weeks ago, but still has not gotten anything from Neal


I remember someone received extra GT and highlighted here in this thread. Could it be yours? Or Neal has given you a wrong tracking number.

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This is getting ridiculous, g_sintornillos paid extra for shipping and they still told him that it was expensive to send it to Uruguay?! What the hell, just get your money and forget it dude.

I asked Neal if my light is sent already. If i do not get reply today i will open PayPal dispute.

They had my money for almost 4 months not including the first deposit ( 8 months or so on that one) and i still haven’t received anything, not even single message after few sent emails to Neal.

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Did all of last 50 get their tracking number?

I got nothing…

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DENGOH wrote:
g_sintornillos wrote:
I paid extra for the shipment to make things easier but, according to the latest official data, it was delivered to someone more than two months ago in Dayton, OH – USA because “it seems they change to send to US because the expensive shipping fees to Uruguay”

PS. TA was informed at the time, more than two weeks ago, but still has not gotten anything from Neal


I remember someone received extra GT and highlighted here in this thread. Could it be yours? Or Neal has given you a wrong tracking number.

I do not know, Neal’s only response was: “it seems they change to send to US because the expensive shipping fees to Uruguay”

Sorry for my bad English (gogole transtorla)

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Sorry everyone, I stopped getting updates about this thread for some reason and was so busy yesterday I forgot to check in manually.

Wow it blew up. I am heading out the door now, I will try to get on a bit later. If someone wants to give me a cliff notes version of the last 6 pages that would be great.

I am giving Neal this week to get things in Gear. If he doesn’t start doing what he signed on to do, then we will be forced to look for alternative options.

DENGOH wrote:
arficus wrote:
I was recently involved in a GB (of similar cost) where a significant number of lights were delivered with 1/3 or more less lumens then spec, “NW” that looked blue, battery carrier issues, flickering, or just plain DOA. And the claimed 55 deg thermal management was absent on all, lights hit 100C in short order. I’ll take extended wait times over that crap anyday.
Sounds like Haikelite MT09R. I didn’t pull trigger on it because the GB was such a hurry and the review sample of XHP35 HI went missing like act of GOD, ya, right! But I still think the 15000 lumens for XHP70.2 is very good performance.

Fixing this problem is what yesterday was spent on for me. All I can say is I am so glad all we have to worry about is a delay and not actual issues with the lights. Man that GB looks to be a nightmare. On the plus side my time seems to have paid off…

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XXX-Man wrote:
Did all of last 50 get their tracking number?

I got nothing…

Same here. Crying

No tracking info as of yet.
Not even a confirmation that it was shipped out. At least give us a list of lights that WERE shipped during the last shipment.

I have doubts it’s only 50 orders that haven’t shipped. Seems like quite a few of us haven’t received any tracking info.
I dread to hear news that some lights have to be pushed back for whatever reason again.

I’ve been silent on the GB shipping delays till now, but it’s gotten to a point that’s quite worrying.

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I don’t receive tracking number too.
I almost email Neal today, but since he didn’t reply many emails, what’s the point to get dissapointed again if he doesn’t reply.
So I choose to wait. I believe we are almost at the end of tunnel.

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How the heck is lumintop desperate to get rid of stock when they can’t produce enough reflectors as it is. Neal has had PayPal frozen for a very short time so I cant see them having more than 50 or so. TA I don’t envy you dealing with this. Perhaps Lumintop could finish the rest of the group buy sans Neal. He obviously has too much on his plate. They look to be selling them from factory for 165us plus shipping and the next round of group buy were to pay shipping costs anyway. Maybe I’m reading it wrong but if waiting on Neal takes months and they are only saying 10 bucks, I know what I would do. I already have my GT so I’m out not effected but this is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

TA if you are going to skip the 6 pages, at least read what mad max posted about Neal and Lumintop. Good Luck, and I pray this hassle doesn’t keep you from working on a blf project again, your expertise is highly appreciated and very much needed. Cheers

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I believe most of us here can wait patiently like adults if some form of information is provided to us.

Instead of saying: Last 50 have shipped out
Say instead: Users whose lights have shipped out are: 1…. 2…. and so on.

This may take some extra time, but I think it’s part of proper communication with the GB members.

Don’t get me wrong: TA, Jason and the rest of the team are doing a fantastic job with this GB.
Lumintop and Neal on the other hand….not helping the communication to the GB members much.

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G sintornillos thank you for reposting that! That, my friend, is one of the craziest explanations ever. You paid Neal extra money for shipping already and when you received tracking information for your order it went to USA instead of Uruguay. His explanation is a classic
“it seems they change to send to US because the expensive shipping fees to Uruguay”

Sorry about your situation but that explanation is pure insanity

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Not to distract from the current thread re: shipping issues but, I am completely lost when it comes to the actual process of:

:Being on the list on page 1
:Almost at the very bottom of tsaid list
:HOW will I receive notification that I am to [pay] for my GT
:If known, approximate time to such payment notification

Sorry if this has been explained clearly somewhere but after reading through 98.7% (I totally made up the percentage but it is up there) of this thread, I have no clear indication that I understand the actual process.

I am patient and not worried about waiting months… not desperate for it but just don’t want to miss a step through lack of knowledge or following proper procedures.

Thanks everyone working hard to clear up the queue!

Cheers.
/manny

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Is the BLF GT going to be for sale again? How would I go about purchasing one?

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Joey Adams wrote:
How the heck is lumintop desperate to get rid of stock when they can’t produce enough reflectors as it is. Neal has had PayPal frozen for a very short time so I cant see them having more than 50 or so. TA I don’t envy you dealing with this. Perhaps Lumintop could finish the rest of the group buy sans Neal. He obviously has too much on his plate. They look to be selling them from factory for 165us plus shipping and the next round of group buy were to pay shipping costs anyway. Maybe I’m reading it wrong but if waiting on Neal takes months and they are only saying 10 bucks, I know what I would do. I already have my GT so I’m out not effected but this is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

TA if you are going to skip the 6 pages, at least read what mad max posted about Neal and Lumintop. Good Luck, and I pray this hassle doesn’t keep you from working on a blf project again, your expertise is highly appreciated and very much needed. Cheers

Mind linking to the post you are referring to?

I honestly do not know what is going on. I have been trying to get a response from Neal for the last several days.

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Is the BLF GT going to be for sale again? How would I go about purchasing one?

Yes, it should be for sale as soon as the GB is finished.

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YouFunnyGuys wrote:
Not to distract from the current thread re: shipping issues but, I am completely lost when it comes to the actual process of:

:Being on the list on page 1
:Almost at the very bottom of tsaid list
:HOW will I receive notification that I am to [pay] for my GT
:If known, approximate time to such payment notification

Sorry if this has been explained clearly somewhere but after reading through 98.7% (I totally made up the percentage but it is up there) of this thread, I have no clear indication that I understand the actual process.

I am patient and not worried about waiting months… not desperate for it but just don’t want to miss a step through lack of knowledge or following proper procedures.

Thanks everyone working hard to clear up the queue!

Cheers.
/manny


Just check post #1 every now and then. Because of the small reflector batches, shipping the lights has been quite slow. The date for batch #3 of PM’s to go out keeps getting pushed back and back. We are in March now and the focus has shifted to sorting out missing shipments, damaged shipments, etc…

As far as when the last group of folks to buy can do so, that is up to Texas_Ace. Maybe Neal can get more stuff done now that “all” the lights have shipped. Emails to g_sintornillos makes it sound like there are still a few lights that have not been sent yet. I don’t know of that’s the case or not.

I hope the delay in this last buying group will motivate Neal and Lumintop to sort out the issues quickly. The $100k from the next group of buyers will pay a lot of bills for them. I thinks it’s good motivation to get issues sorted out and emails responded to. We might even get some lists of stuff. Thumbs Up

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Is the BLF GT going to be for sale again? How would I go about purchasing one?

Yes, it should be for sale as soon as the GB is finished.

No unfortunately its saled again

g_sintornillos wrote:
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Texas_Ace wrote:
Joey Adams wrote:
How the heck is lumintop desperate to get rid of stock when they can’t produce enough reflectors as it is. Neal has had PayPal frozen for a very short time so I cant see them having more than 50 or so. TA I don’t envy you dealing with this. Perhaps Lumintop could finish the rest of the group buy sans Neal. He obviously has too much on his plate. They look to be selling them from factory for 165us plus shipping and the next round of group buy were to pay shipping costs anyway. Maybe I’m reading it wrong but if waiting on Neal takes months and they are only saying 10 bucks, I know what I would do. I already have my GT so I’m out not effected but this is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

TA if you are going to skip the 6 pages, at least read what mad max posted about Neal and Lumintop. Good Luck, and I pray this hassle doesn’t keep you from working on a blf project again, your expertise is highly appreciated and very much needed. Cheers

Mind linking to the post you are referring to?

I honestly do not know what is going on. I have been trying to get a response from Neal for the last several days.


http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1293458#comment-1293458
I am guessing this is the post he is referring to.

And again, I see Lumentop trying to sell the GT before the group buy lights had been supplied…
If they would stop providing lights to people out side the group buy, this group buy could possibly be finished by now. Also, it was implied that Vinh is buying them outside the group buy directly from Lumintop at wholesale price.

Also, I see Neil has asked a member recently to provide more money for shipping. I find this phishy because:
1: It was already agreed that Lumintop would eat the charges on orders already paid for
2: Neils PayPal account is supposedly on lock down.

Another thing that kind of irks me is the fact that the everyone gets one before people get seconds. I notice some people tend to buy more than they need of lights just to keep them in a tote in their garage and horde them. I think if that rule was stuck to, more people would at least have one in their possession and the delays would have been less aggravating.

I know most all of this is/was outside of the people coordinating the group buys hands, and not aiming this at you. Just some observations on what I have been seeing as I follow the closing of the group buy. I already have my GT and was lucky enough to get into the first batch of 555. If I wasnt, I would not have been able to afford to participate and want to thank those that were involved at the beginning for negotiating that low price enabling me to participate and get this iconic light

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Pulsar wrote:
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Joey Adams wrote:
How the heck is lumintop desperate to get rid of stock when they can’t produce enough reflectors as it is. Neal has had PayPal frozen for a very short time so I cant see them having more than 50 or so. TA I don’t envy you dealing with this. Perhaps Lumintop could finish the rest of the group buy sans Neal. He obviously has too much on his plate. They look to be selling them from factory for 165us plus shipping and the next round of group buy were to pay shipping costs anyway. Maybe I’m reading it wrong but if waiting on Neal takes months and they are only saying 10 bucks, I know what I would do. I already have my GT so I’m out not effected but this is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

TA if you are going to skip the 6 pages, at least read what mad max posted about Neal and Lumintop. Good Luck, and I pray this hassle doesn’t keep you from working on a blf project again, your expertise is highly appreciated and very much needed. Cheers

Mind linking to the post you are referring to?

I honestly do not know what is going on. I have been trying to get a response from Neal for the last several days.


http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1293458#comment-1293458
I am guessing this is the post he is referring to.

And again, I see Lumentop trying to sell the GT before the group buy lights had been supplied…
If they would stop providing lights to people out side the group buy, this group buy could possibly be finished by now. Also, it was implied that Vinh is buying them outside the group buy directly from Lumintop at wholesale price.

Also, I see Neil has asked a member recently to provide more money for shipping. I find this phishy because:
1: It was already agreed that Lumintop would eat the charges on orders already paid for
2: Neils PayPal account is supposedly on lock down.

Another thing that kind of irks me is the fact that the everyone gets one before people get seconds. I notice some people tend to buy more than they need of lights just to keep them in a tote in their garage and horde them. I think if that rule was stuck to, more people would at least have one in their possession and the delays would have been less aggravating.

I know most all of this is/was outside of the people coordinating the group buys hands, and not aiming this at you. Just some observations on what I have been seeing as I follow the closing of the group buy. I already have my GT and was lucky enough to get into the first batch of 555. If I wasnt, I would not have been able to afford to participate and want to thank those that were involved at the beginning for negotiating that low price enabling me to participate and get this iconic light

Thanks for the link.

For the record, only a few lights have actually been sold outside of the GB, including the skylumen lights it is not more then a few dozen at most that I know of. So it most certainly is not causing any major delays for the GB. Just to put that rumor to rest.

That said I have to get a response in order to figure out what is going on, which I have not thus far.

Only out of the first 555 did people get 1 before people got seconds. After that it is simply a matter of what number you are on the list as to who gets what. If you asked to be put on the list for 3 lights at the same time, they you got a code to order all 3 at the same time.

Up until the last few weeks things have actually been pretty smooth and running good if not slow. These last few weeks without updates is not acceptable though. I sent Neal another email today, I will give him next week to give me a reply and then alternative options will be sought.

Also, I am pretty sure Neals account really is on lock down, which could explain why lumintop is taking orders directly if Neal is not able to. They are just doing it the wrong way.

Trust me, as soon as I know something solid, I will update this thread but I don’t deal in rumors. So until I have something solid there is just not much I can do or say. I am a glorified messenger boy when you break it down at this point.

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