LD-3: LD-2 on vitaminS (2-12Amps CC with configurable UI)

Useful links:

Old LD-2 thread:

https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/33706

LD-3 For sale thread:

https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/42484

LD-3 Reviews by BLF members:

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Preliminary LD-3 datasheet link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4utteoho2x8pbyv/LD-3%20datasheet%20preliminary.pdf?dl=0

Highlights/summary:

  • Optimised LD-2 hardware (not much left to improve there) - very low internal resistance (sub 5mOhm), low active state current consumption (1.6mA typ.), reliable 1S-4S operation/support
  • User configurable settings/UI - max. current, mode groups, moonlight, mode memory, CC/DD on high, mode order, strobes, dual overtemp. protection with adjustable ext. threshold, cofiguration mode password
  • Adjustable current in UI - no need to change resistors to get desired current
  • Option to choose between constant current/direct drive (CC/DD) on high mode
  • Configuration mode password - prevents end users to accidentally enter into configuration mode and mess-up settings

Everything is in datasheet this time,and I think there is no need to write long, hard to read text in topic,so here are pics of datasheet:

Reserved.

If you don’t mind, your pictures are showing up a little small for me. So I copied some of the important bits.

I’m interested in how you achieved such a low internal resistance, but perhaps that’s a trade secret

Internal resistance depends mostly on fet resistance,nothing magical there,the lower fet resistance,the better,but there is a point where potential gain (output current) is neglible,and that point is IMO about 5mOhm of driver internal resistance.

led4power

What about a single XML type emitter + 2S? Is it XPH35 realy?

That’s what I thought, just wan’t sure how you shaved off another 5 from the “big FET” driver. Just a newer/better FET?

Led4power was so kind to send me the LD3 prototype, but I have not had enough time yet to do a proper review. But the bottomline is that the LD3 has (almost or exact?) the same hardware as the LD2 but the UI has dramatically changed: it is clicky only now, with a wagonload of useful settings and a very well functioning configuration procedure. I like it a lot sofar!

10x djozz

great!

did i miss the price? ;)

Wait! djozz, did you say clicky only? I know a lot of lights are clicky, but sometimes a clicky just won’t do. Wonder why e-switch was left out! :cry:

Otherwise, just from reading the page that PD zoomed in, it looks to be a very worthy upgrade for LD-2! I just hope LD-2 stays available for e-switch lights, or another alternative is offered. :wink:

EDIT: I just glanced over the preliminary datasheet, and I’m amazed at the depth of configurability and functionality of this driver! Still wish it would support e-switch, but for a clicky switch driver, I don’t think there’s one out there that compares!

@pilotdog
Note <10mohm for DD drivers,that means just that,less than 10mohm.Since there are a lot of different DD drivers and even more different FETs used,internal resistance varies from maybe 2mohm to 10mohm,but most of them have 4-6mohm.

Sorry, I didn’t understand you?

Wow Neven nice job on this one! Configurable current setting, brilliant! :wink: I’ll take 4 please! :+1:

Well, i was always wanted an Eu source for a good drivers like yours that are suitable to drive a single XML emitter type with 2( or more) 18650s, especialy in the 17/20mm form factor cause atm we have only MNT ones

Also a good driver for XHP35 in the same form factor driven by 4 Liions

Clicky one? Good for me

COOL! UI adjusted current levels! :crown:

I run out of ROM space in uC bacause of configurable settings. There will be e-switch version,but not sure when.

Thanks! After I saw the datasheet, I figured that was the case. This really does look to be an awesome driver! Good job! I wouldn’t have thought there would be much room for improvement after LD-2. Hardware-wise, it seems I was right, but the UI of the LD-3 is incredible!

As far as i know from LD-2 :

1)This driver is compatible with 4x Li-ions for use with xhp35

2)It isn’t a buck driver , it needs 1 cell for 3V leds , and 2 cells for 6V leds

Nice! The configurable modes and possibility to have CC in lower modes and DD in high modes is a killer feature.