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Klarus XT12GT

A while back I made an offer to Banggood to write a review for a flashlight for them and after a few exchanges of email I was left thinking I wasn’t wanted. Out of the blue I got an e-mail asking me if I’d still like to review a product for them and a matter of days later this Klarus XT12GT arrived. I think I might be one of the first with one in my possession as I’ve seen no reviews of it online nor have I seen many comments apart from one person who managed to get hold of a very early release.

I’ve only had the flashlight in my hands for ~90minutes and in that time I’ve snapped a few photos and I’ve made my mind up on the light already. Its awesome.

Unpacking the parcel. The light was in a grey plastic bag with my address on and inside that bag was the below. Not much wrapping but the box was fine and the light was perfect.

Parcel:

A couple of pictures of it in the box:

Top:

Bottom:

Once I’d taken these photos I thought “hey, I should do an unboxing video” but a few seconds later I was opening it up further like a kid at Christmas. Slide out of the cardboard and you see the torch and the magnetic connector thing. Initial thoughts was “this box is a bit empty” but a quick flip over revealed the manual, USB lead (which is a lovely quality cable) and a case. Inside the case is a lanyard and o-ring.

Top of box:

All items:

There is a little label on the belt clip that reminds you to take the plastic tabs out from the battery. They obviously ship with the tags in to stop them turning on in transport. I lifted the tag off and grab the battery out.

Battery in tube:

Close up of battery:

I then put the battery into the battery charger to check its voltage. It’s 3.49v and stone cold. The light was in transport for a while and the van was clearly unheated as it was ~3c. I took a photo of it on the Opus BT-C3100 charger but it seems the photo I took was at the exact second the charger flashed the voltage and the slot for the battery was showing as blank.

I quickly grabbed the magnetic charger connector and light unit and noticed the difference in the tint of the torch to the light on the keychain thing. This is a very warm light – as if you’ve got a maglite solitare in your hand. The unit seems tough and the switch on the back is VERY secure. I bite my fingers so have no finger nails and I actually struggled to turn the light on.

Magnetic charger thing:

I plugged the usb lead into a USB power supply and noticed that it was charging the battery and drawing ~0.87/0.88A @5v.

USB Monitor:

I then thought I better check the Klarus’s internal battery monitor so a short press on the mode switch and the magnetic contact ring lit up red meaning the battery was low.

Battery ring:

I took the battery out to finish charging on the Opus charger so I can have a proper play tonight with it. I doubt I’m going to get some proper beam shots from it tonight due to the fog that we’ve had in the evening but I’ll get a shot in my street as an example and post it later this evening.

The reflector is impressive for the size of the light and the emitter seems well centered.

Reflector:

Emitter:

So, that’s the pictures for now over with. Now onto my thoughts….

The light is a great size. It fits in my hand perfectly and feels well built. The threads are all silky smooth and there is no grab or drag on any of them. They’re lubricated but not wet so when I touched them I wasn’t left with goop on my fingers.

The magnetic contact for charging is awesome. I think this light might be my go to light from now on because I can keep the magnetic contact on my car keys so they are always with me (well, nearly) and then you can just top the batteries up using your micro usb cable from your laptop or car or power bank or whatever. I suppose you could even use this to charge up batteries that you’ve got in other lights that you’ve simply forgotten your dedicated charger for. The charge time shouldnt be too bad either because if it’s drawing ~0.9A at 5v it should be giving a decent charge rate with losses and voltage conversion.

The user defined modes are funky. I admit I had to read the manual and I wont bother explaining it in here, just read the manual when you get one. You can basically have an “ON / OFF” switch and a momentary switch. Out of the box the momentary switch is set to strobe which is a crazy strobe. Brilliant for tactical stuff if you ever needed it but I honestly dont think I’d ever need it. I put mine onto the mode that allows momentary to be “LOW” and the main switch is “ON”.

The beam seems brilliant. I’ve only tested it inside in the day time but the hotspot is a hotspot. It’s a tight beam compared to some other lights and it certainly looks like it’ll perform well in the wild.

I’ll save the next post for myself for some beam shots tonight and I’ll see what I can compare it against. I have a couple of dedicated throwers that I might step down to ~1000/1500 lumens to see what they can do. I might even bring out the TN31 and compare that to it considering its much bigger with a much bigger reflector it’ll be interesting. I don’t think the XT12GT will beat it but my gut feeling from the daytime tests says it shouldn’t be humiliated.

Got a few hours before I can test it in the dark so any questions you’ve got before then let me know.

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Size comparisons:

XT12GT in hand:

TM16GT in hand

XT12GT vs Thorfire C8

Collection….

Beamshots…..

Sorry for the crap quality. I couldn’t be bothered to go somewhere really dark and I was in a bit of a rush to do these.
Canon 7D, 47mm, F5.6, 2s exposure, 200ISO

The tree is exactly 100m away – I checked it with a laser measurer and it was right on the 100m line – 100.056 to some of the leaves at the top.

1 = Control

2 = VG15

3 = EA41

4 = Thorfire C8

5 = XT12GT

6 = TN31

7 = TM16GT

Then cropped in on the tree
1 = Control

2 = VG15

3 = EA41

4 = Thorfire C8

5 = XT12GT

6 = TN31

7 = TM16GT

Comparing it against its closest size rival I’ve got it’s basically up against the C8 and it absolutely obliterates it close up or at distance.

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I posted before I uploaded them. Give me ~2mins…

I’m thinking of comparing it against the TM16 GT and the TN31 tonight for throwers. The TK75 will probably make an appearance too but I think its unfair pitting such big lights against this little thing.

I think the next photo that needs to appear will be of the light in my hand and I’ll be fair, I have quite small girly hands. I’m an IT monkey so dont need big hands.

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Hi chrisc,

I Was Gonna' Say 'Didn’t Happen If There’s No Pictures' laughing

EDIT: Nice pics chrisc!!

 

 

 

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I also made a bit of an excuse about the fog. It’s Christmas and I’m not working so I may have had an alcoholic beverage or two with lunch which means I can’t drive to any dark places.

One bad thing I’ve noticed is if you start it on low via the momentary switch and then turn it up to high its got a slight whistle to it. If you was outside you’d not notice but I was standing in a silent kitchen at the time and noticed. If you turn it on to high directly it is silent. Rather odd.

It might be the fact I’m using some rubbish old samsung batteries whilst the supplied light charges up, It is taking its time at the moment – 4.05v, 1hr 59mins charging and 1980mAh charged. I can test it with the supplied cell later.

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Thank you for the review.
Can you tell as are the reflector sealed and vacuumed and what is the color temperature of emitter?

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Colour temperature seems to match the tm16gt and my tn36.

As for sealed I thought I’d lob the light into the bath with the kids tonight. It’s been in the bath, covered in soap, turned on/off many times and it’s inside is bone dry. It’s well and truly sealed unlike my tn36 that when in a bath for 10mins condensated like crazy and I needed a replacement

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I gave it a quick go tonight and I’m chuffed to bits with it.

Updated the pics in the second post to show the beamshots. I’ll try and get out and about in the next few weeks to get a few more comparison shots of various lights but when you hold the C8 in your hand and light up a tree 100m away and think “yeah, this is quite good for the size” then you light the same tree up with the XT12GT you suddenly laugh at the C8. – when you grab the TM16GT and light the street up you think that its all a bit silly and you need to go back indoors Big Smile

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thanks for the review. is the thorfire c8 a xml2 or xplhi?
is the strobe on the xt12 just as bright as turbo? or is the strobe as bright as high?
hows the main switch? is it squishy with some play?

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Nice review. Mine came yesterday too.

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chrisc wrote:
Colour temperature seems to match the tm16gt and my tn36.

As for sealed I thought I’d lob the light into the bath with the kids tonight. It’s been in the bath, covered in soap, turned on/off many times and it’s inside is bone dry. It’s well and truly sealed unlike my tn36 that when in a bath for 10mins condensated like crazy and I needed a replacement


Thanks.
I have C8 with mode, so I do not expect much from X12GT as a trow.
But X12GT has better quality.
When you use X12GT outside in winter conditions, in there a small moisture ring on the center of gals lens, but inside reflector?
I have with my L2 and L6.
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There was zero condensation in the XT12GT when I used it yesterday. It was ~3c outside when I tried it out. All of the lights went from 20c house and were left outside.

The XT12GT is constructed better and has far more throw than the C8. The C8 was the light I left in my car for emergencies… it probably wont be now.

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chrisc wrote:
There was zero condensation in the XT12GT when I used it yesterday. It was ~3c outside when I tried it out. All of the lights went from 20c house and were left outside.

The XT12GT is constructed better and has far more throw than the C8. The C8 was the light I left in my car for emergencies… it probably wont be now.


Do you think Klarus are vacuumed reflector and there is no air inside?
My C8 are with XP-G2 mode, does 1300 lumens, 150 000 candela, 4500K tint, so it is not “out of the game” yet and still kicks well.
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I have had my xt12gt for about 10 days bough from battery Junction (shorepower wholesale) for a very good price. I have to say, I have a new companion. This light rocks! very nice user interface, output is VERY GOOD.

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wstrachan wrote:
I have had my xt12gt for about 10 days bough from battery Junction (shorepower wholesale) for a very good price. I have to say, I have a new companion. This light rocks! very nice user interface, output is VERY GOOD.

Interesting website, but can you make individual orders from them? I tried signing up but it shows some error.

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shorepower is a wholesale only distributor. You must sign up and there are minimum monthly purchase amounts required. Battery Junction is their normal sale site and their pricis are very good.

light addict....yeah I've got the bug.

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thrunite tn32 ut
acebeam k60
Shadow sl3
Shadow jM35
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you can buy through me and I ship same day to the US only.

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Shadow sl3
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Thank you for the review!

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Just a little bump. I was correct when I said that this would be my go – to light. I know a few people who have ordered one of these since playing with mine and this light has made a few of my other lights obsolete.

The simplicity of the charging is amazing.
The UI for the power modes at first is odd but now I know it I wish other lights had the same.
The throw for the size is epic. The photos show that it can reach out a fair way but they dont quite do the light justice.
The magnetic charging keychain is great. It’s tiny but so useful.

I know that I was provided this light to do a review but this review isn’t tainted by the fact I got it at a reduced price. It really is great.

reminder of where you can get it – thanks BANGGOOD Smile
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Also, if I’m going to do more reviews of lights what else would you look for in a review? I’ve just ordered a lux meter so I can test all of my lights against each other.

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A small update, this time not a happy update. Sad

Last night I was playing with a new toy a – lux meter and I wanted to answer the question of how the light performs on different cells. I tested it with a number of 18650’s to check ceiling bounce and there was a few moments where the light flickered a bit, I was in a dark room and at the time I was making notes and the light was my only source of light so it was quite obvious to the eye that it was flickering.

The strange whistling noise I mentioned when I first got it was present but no more than normal. Maybe it seemed louder because I was in a small room on my own in a quiet house. So, on with the testing and the light decides to completely cut out after ~5seconds of use. I swap the battery over and it lights up for ~1second and goes off completely. Odd?! I take the battery out and smell something. I poke the spring on the tailcap and its red hot, hot enough to burn my skin which blistered up instantly and left white patches. Not so fun.

I put the light back together and nothing. The light is dead and I’ve got the lovely smell of burnt electronics.

One thing to note is that the lights onboard power indicator still works. I press the power on the bottom and the light goes green.

I’m tempted to run a battery down and see if it charges it but at the same time I dont like the idea of using something I know is faulty to charge an 18650 cell. Something about that sounds dangerous.

So here is the thing, I got the light to do a review, will they swap it out? Will they say tough luck? Who knows.
Whatever happens will make up my mind on this light. I think I was one of the first people on the forums with one in my hands so maybe I had a early model that was faulty. Maybe I’ve just been unlucky but I’ll let you guys know the outcome.

I’m also taking the chance to do a capacity test on the supplied battery. I didn’t get a chance to do it before so i’m leaving it on the Opus charger to see how it scores later.

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Disappointing for sure,,,,,,,, Facepalm .. Hopefully an isolated case.

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Well I got a chance to do a charge test on the cells and they’re pretty darn decent.

Not quite the 3600mAh as claimed but near enough for my liking. I want more of them now!

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I just received my XT12GT this week, and have played a bit with it – beautiful light – maybe more light than I need, as I am mostly an in-town kinda guy and rarely get out where it’s truly dark. But, MAN, it makes a beautiful beam!

I am subbing this thread to see if the cause of chrisc’s XT12GT is ever arrived at.

chrisc – I hope you get that light working, or a replacement, but mostly, I hope, for the rest of us new XT12GT owners, that the problems you had are a unique, on-off and not indicative of general quality and life-expectancy of this light!

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Still not heard anything from Banggood about this. I’ve emailed Swi directly and PM’d via here.

I’m not sure what to do considering it’s a review light,

I opened the tailcap again to give it a sniff, aaah the smell of burnt electronics.

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I’m still waiting for mine to show at my doorstep and curious if anybody else have any major issue with their XT12GT?

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chrisc wrote:
Still not heard anything from Banggood about this. I’ve emailed Swi directly and PM’d via here.

I’m not sure what to do considering it’s a review light,

I opened the tailcap again to give it a sniff, aaah the smell of burnt electronics.


Hmm I wonder if the battery (+) made contact with the driver ground (-) ring, I have had that happen before! Facepalm

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If that is the case I’d have thought the protected cell would have simply stopped. To be honest I’ve never deliberately shorted out a protected cell to see what happens but I’d expect it’d stop this from happening.

I doubt I’m going to hear anything for a couple of weeks considering it’s Chinese New Year at the moment so I’ll just lob the light in the corner and give up on it.

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Chinese New Year is on the 28th of January.

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Chinese New Year is on the 28th of January.

Thanks. Shows my complete ignorance to everything Big Smile

Either way, I see banggood are posting in the forum and are active so that throws my idea out of the window.

I’ve just emailed Klarus directly too to see what they say.

It shouldnt matter if I paid MSRP / RRP / Trade / Discount / Free etc the light should still work as per any other light that they sell. Its a bit rubbish that I was one of the first who posted pictures/beamshots with one in hand and mine has gone pop. If I wasn’t one of the first to get one I’d say that build quality must be questionable but I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt for now.

I still think my light might have been defective from day 1 when I noticed the whistle of the driver it seemed odd but saying that I noticed my TN36 hums a bit on turbo.

Another thing I noted was that there is a lot of obvious PWM when you video it. I’m trying to get someone else to confirm if they see the same but when I had my camera on video mode and I went through the modes the PWM flicker was very noticeable.

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