Help with UF-1504, Aspheric build....

Got my FET driver this weekend and everything went together great.

Tailcap current draw is 4A from an efest purple IMR 26650 with an XPL-HI V3… is this about right? Host gets warm but not alarmingly hot or fast.

The emitter is a little off center relative to the black retainer-ring as you can see in the last pic. How do I tell if the LED is geometrically centered beneath the LENS… thats the important factor right? Still out throws ANY of my lights by a factor of ~50 at least… so I have no real baseline for comparison.

thanks!!

FWIW… the retainer ring part surrounding the LED is somewhat poorly made. Lose fitting threads. I can bias it over and skew it with a little push-pressure. Heres a better pic, after pushing on it a little…

It’s not critical that the LED be exactly centered with respect to the lens. What you have looks fine to me.

In my experience, an XPL HI direct drive with a good cell and springs bypassed will do 5-5.5A. Depending on how you measured the current it’s possible this could have introduced some extra resistance, which would lower the current draw.

The centring ring is missing.
There should be one around the LED that fits the hole in the black retainer.

Yeah, 4 A is quite low.
Maybe you measured it with normal (thin) multimeter cables?

OK thanks gents. I was able to just push on the side of the emitter and keep it centered with a wooden BBQ skewer, tighten the ring and its all centered now much better. The host didn’t include a small plastic centering ring though.

Yeah I am not using the best probes on my Fluke 179.

I also used some copper braid wire to bypass the thin spring in the tailcap. Its really running good now. I cant wait for it to get dark tonight.

thanks!!

Any throw numbers? I built an xhp35 1504 recently and it throws just over 1000m, curious how that compares to the XP-L HI.

Interestingly my D01 modded with XP-L HI throws almost exactly the same, just a completely different beam and look.

Turns out it was raining somewhat hard tonight. I did get out to a local park 15 minutes away and it easily hit a tree line at 237 meters away. I could easily make out and track birds above and around the tree. That was the farthest and darkest thing I could find, without hiking out and getting soaked. I am not sure how much farther out the beam will remain concentrated. I would be surprised if the beam remained concentrated to 1000m.

I had a hard time just keeping rain water off the aspheric.

Would there be any benefit in grinding off the shouder area of the pill so the LED can be focused farther away from the aspheric?

Thats pretty good for a quad-die. How did you step all the way up to 12Vf ?

Does the XHP35 have a brighter die surface than the XPL-HI V3 I am using?

Does the aspheric add up or quadruple-up all the die images into one summed up focus?

Overall I am impressed with this build, for the $$ spent on parts. Pretty good Lux / dollar using off the shelf parts. I think the next step up from here would be a de-domed XP-G2.

You should definitely go for dedomed XP-G2 if you’re looking for laser-like beam.
I replaced the stock XP-L HI in my Brinyte B158B with a dedomed XP-G2 and made it a DD (no driver)… Man, does thi throw !
I should make a beamshot side by side with my FET driven XP-L HI C8…
The hot spot of my C8 disappear when you throw the B158B spot in it, that’s impressive !

I am using 4x 26350’s to power it.

The XP-L HI should be a bit brighter in theory but I have an L2 with XHP35 hi and another with XP-L hi, the XHP35 throws slightly further, almost twice the lumens and a much larger hotspot. I am not sure what the bin of the XP-L HI is though.

The XHP35 doesn’t have a cross to start with since the dies touch each other.

It is an impressive light. The funny thing is I built a D01 with an XP-L HI and it makes almost exactly the same throw numbers, both are right around 250kcd.

The 1504 is like a light saber, very fun to point at the sky and see the beam.

The D01 is more usable and much prettier beam and tint. The 1504 has a bit of a rainbow effect on the edge of the die.

Left : B158B dedomed XP-G2 DD ; Right : C8 XP-L HI FET

Oh yeah, that is the other reason I don’t like XP-G2’s, to really make them better then the XP-L or XHP35 you have to dedome them and I hate the green/yellow color you get. I will gladly give up some throw for the better tine and output.

But that is just me. I would not mind one super thrower at some point but it would just be a toy for me.

The dedomed XP-G2 in my lightcanon is pure white.
The other XP-G2 dedomed that I had was yellow, but not this one.
It depends on the tint you get before dedoming.

Too bad they dont make a factory de-domed G2… that would be great.

I ordered the wrong tint, that’s why I ended up with a yellow beam…
But a replacement should be here in a week or two, that will be more white :slight_smile:
This zoomie IS a toy and have zero real use for me, that’s why it doesn’t even have a driver
It’s a direct drive, from 30Q to LED with thick wires and bypassed springs…
I didn’t take any current or beam intensity measurement, but I’m sure of one thing : it would have out throw my M3X and SR52 (which are sold for long ago) !

Is 2B a good tint for de-dome? Thinking about getting some of these…

http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=60_62&product_id=512

Is this a good technique? Certainly looks the easiest…

Impressive little thrower thats for sure… yet still very useful for close range when its zoomed out.

The two XP-G2s that I got dedomed were 0D and 2B, and I cannot remember which one is the white one and which one was yellow.