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There are also sellers who offer just the light, no cells for about US$15

Only through these Taobao sellers? I haven’t been able to find a decent price on these lights anywhere else. I could use a couple of hosts like this. Anyone know where I can get them without going though Taobao?
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This Ali store for SupFire L5, $24.50 shipped, but shows rev 1. Have to ask the seller if the pics are accurate, or is it rev 3 they are shipping now.

 

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This Ali store for SupFire L5, $24.50 shipped, but shows rev 1. Have to ask the seller if the pics are accurate, or is it rev 3 they are shipping now.


 


I doubt that’s the L5s.

Maybe this light will be sold in more places soon since it is a fairly new revision.

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Huh? I got two of these L5's, rev 1 as pictured, and one rev 2. Richard at MtnE sold exactly the same light. Even Richard didn't update his ad from rev 1 to rev 2 when he was selling rev 2's.

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The L5-s with dual switches has only been out a few months.
Richards store is tiny and he would describe any differences in the text. That’s very different from stores where you click on the item to buy. With those stores you get what you see. If they are out of stock there is no buy option. I don’t know how to explain it, but they gave this model a new name. The L5-s. Only BLF’ers call them revision 1, 2 etc…

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http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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Mike C wrote:
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There are also sellers who offer just the light, no cells for about US$15
Only through these Taobao sellers? I haven’t been able to find a decent price on these lights anywhere else. I could use a couple of hosts like this. Anyone know where I can get them without going though Taobao?

I did a lot of searching and mainly found this light (L5-S) only on Taobao, a couple on Tmall and Aliexpress. The sellers on Aliexpress only listed quantities of 50 or more except one seller that would sell a single, but only shipped DHL for something like $30 shipping. There used to be a couple of sellers on Taobao that had a choice for only buying the light, no calles. However, lately they have disappeared or sold out. When I bought my L5-S I had to buy with 1 or 2 cells. I got two cells just because they were not all that much. They are branded Supfire and 3700 mAh according to the cell label. They tested at 3200 to 3300 mAh. Because of the cells inclusion cssbuy had to ship them NLPost. IIRC, they could also have shipped DHL, but that was crazy expensive.

I just sent an inquiry to the aliex seller offering that $24.50 version that ispictured with a black button. Will advise what I hear back.

Supfire’s own website still lists L5 with a white/silver button as well as the newer L5-S version. FWIW.

I haven’t just asked RMM if he would think of stocking the L5-S. Maybe I should.

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Tom E wrote:
This Ali store for SupFire L5, $24.50 shipped, but shows rev 1. Have to ask the seller if the pics are accurate, or is it rev 3 they are shipping now.

 


I’m specifically interested in the dual switch version, so if the pics are accurate or not doesn’t really help as you can’t actually see if the light in that store has a tail switch or not. The descriptions are not all that helpful either: “rear pillar design big drum, and put an end to skip files happening better compatibility pointed flag battery Facepalm

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I did a lot of searching and mainly found this light (L5-S) only on Taobao, a couple on Tmall and Aliexpress. The sellers on Aliexpress only listed quantities of 50 or more except one seller that would sell a single, but only shipped DHL for something like $30 shipping. There used to be a couple of sellers on Taobao that had a choice for only buying the light, no calles. However, lately they have disappeared or sold out. When I bought my L5-S I had to buy with 1 or 2 cells. I got two cells just because they were not all that much. They are branded Supfire and 3700 mAh according to the cell label. They tested at 3200 to 3300 mAh. Because of the cells inclusion cssbuy had to ship them NLPost. IIRC, they could also have shipped DHL, but that was crazy expensive.

Yeah, found them 50 pieces stores too. I did find some shop that sold single lights, but they costed over $70. I’ll just wait until they are available in the usual stores.
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Here's the L5-S listed on the manufacturer's site: http://www.supfireenglish.com/Products/led_flashlight/medium_flashlight/2016/1231/128.html

Here's the L5-L2 listed: http://www.supfireenglish.com/Products/led_flashlight/medium_flashlight/2014/0613/52.html

What I call rev 1 is no longer, but is the one shown on several Ali stores, with black rubber switch.

The L5-S - is 7 mm longer, 145 vs 152, and 14 g heavier.

 

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Here’s the L5-S listed on the manufacturer’s site: http://www.supfireenglish.com/Products/led_flashlight/medium_flashlight/2016/1231/128.html


Here’s the L5-L2 listed: http://www.supfireenglish.com/Products/led_flashlight/medium_flashlight/2014/0613/52.html


What I call rev 1 is no longer, but is the one shown on several Ali stores, with black rubber switch.


The L5-S – is 7 mm longer, 145 vs 152, and 14 g heavier.


 


I know what your saying because I’m a BLF’er. I don’t think Supfire ever called it rev1, rev2, etc…

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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Yea, I know they never called it by a rev # too. Never said or claimed they did, I just wanted a way to differentiate them. I didn't realize they still list and sell the one with the alum switch. I thought the tailswitch/USB model was the next generation, but apparently not - they are keeping the two models.

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I have received a reply from that Aliexpress seller with the L5 photo having the old, first version switch.

“Fan Zhou: Hi!
This is the old version of the picture, and now our L5 switch is white.
We will update the picture recently. “

So the present offering from there is the ver 2, no tailcap switch and a white/silver side button. Officially Supfire calls that an L5-L2

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Funny - I got the same message. I'm asking them now if what they sell has the tail switch and USB charging. White switch could mean either model maybe.

Good to know though, at least it's new inventory and price is decent.

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Ok, they have the L5-S, and it cost $3 more, so for $27.50. You have to make it out with them, they bump the price, you pay, and get the L5-S... Oh boy.

 

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Ok, they have the L5-S, and it cost $3 more, so for $27.50. You have to make it out with them, they bump the price, you pay, and get the L5-S… Oh boy.


 


Hey, good to know. Thumbs Up

Maybe they will give it a seperate listing soon.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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Well, I amazed myself this morning. Shocked I removed the 7135 and replaced it with one I had removed in another project. And it was a success!! The driver works again. I have no idea why it failed, but there we are.

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Well done Don. Beer

My current and or voltage measurements are only relevent to anything that I measure.

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Just so I’m clear on the specs, the driver was about 29 millimeter and the emitter is maybe 30 millimeter?

What kind of drain do you get using a driver that is zener modded?

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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JasonWW wrote:
Tom E wrote:

Ok, they have the L5-S, and it cost $3 more, so for $27.50. You have to make it out with them, they bump the price, you pay, and get the L5-S… Oh boy.


 


Hey, good to know. Thumbs Up

Maybe they will give it a seperate listing soon.


I just heard back from FFRAN Tech Store and they said it’s a new light and that they will be launching it soon. You can still buy early like was mentioned before. Just contact them and they will set it up. I got a price of $28.50 with usb cable

This is pretty cool. I could turn it into a mini L6. Squeeze in a FX30 driver, a pair of 26350 then an xhp70. Beer

(I prefer a reflector beam shape over a TIR lens)

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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Just so I’m clear on the specs, the driver was about 29 millimeter and the emitter is maybe 30 millimeter?

What kind of drain do you get using a driver that is zener modded?

The MCPCB is 20 mm
The driver is an odd size with the two “ears” protruding. If the USB charger is not kept the easiest method to mount a new driver may be to strip the stock driver and simply use it to piggyback a new driver.

I have not measured any amps at all. Just lumens out the front.

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Okay, it was the older L5 that had the big mcpcb.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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I just ordered two directly from SupFire, flashlight only (no cells or chargers). Total including shipping to Sweden was $55.70.
I asked if they would sell hosts only, answer was no.

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I ordered one a couple days ago to make a mini Convoy L6. Unfortunately 26350 batteries are too expensive to get at the moment. Crying

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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MtnDon wrote:
For reference, this is the view in the front of the head. The aluminum disc is removable. It threads in and out.


I’m having a hard time getting it out. Did you need to heat it up or just use a lot of force? Does it screw out normally or have reversed threads like some Convoy hosts have?
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Got my L5-L2 Monday. It does have the alum switch, no USB charging - it's what I wanted.

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Mike C wrote:
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For reference, this is the view in the front of the head. The aluminum disc is removable. It threads in and out.
I’m having a hard time getting it out. Did you need to heat it up or just use a lot of force? Does it screw out normally or have reversed threads like some Convoy hosts have?

Hmmm. I had very little difficulty unscrewing it. I used my spanner tool, applied a little force and it came loose. It is a normal right hand thread, so CCW to unscrew.

This tool.

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Weird… one of mine is as if it was glued. I bought two, I’ll will try opening the other before resorting to violence.

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It uses an odd size / shape board. It’s about 29 mm in diameter and has two “ears” that slip into grooves in the head. This makes the board auto key for the USB socket, keeps it in place.

Big correction here. The driver is not 29mm, it is 26mm.

I had planned to trim down one of my Convoy L6 30mm drivers to fit it, but at 26mm, it’s not going to fit. Crying

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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Ugh! I’m trying really hard to get this thing apart.

I’m guessing it’s glued.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-6 thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

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Reflector out was no problem for me, unscrewed easily. My problems are stated above.

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