a new EDC light of 2017- JAXMAN E2L

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I just bought two of these in the XP-G2 neutral white variant, (3C) and I find the tint is too yellow. I'm torn as to weather I should send it back and swap them for cool white 1C versions. I tried comparing the 3C tint (5500k) to my MT-GT Q0 (5000K) and well the MT-G2 looked better and allot less yellow vs the XP-G2 3C @5500K. I mean if anything the XP-G2 should have been more white then yellow... Now comparing my modded SK98 with a XM-L2 U4 1C, I'm liking the cooler look of the 1C.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

Flashlights:

x2 Sk68 modded 1 Nichia 319AT, 1 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x2 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - x1 Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d - x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 Ti - x1 Olight I3T EOS

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sovereignknight wrote:
I just bought two of these in the XP-G2 neutral white variant, (3C) and I find the tint is too yellow.

Sure it’s not just mislabelled/misbinned?

I’ve got a 4300K-4500K XP-E2 in a C8 that’s quite a nice color, warmish but not overly so. In fact, its hotspot is about my favorite CT/tint just short of a 219B.

My S2+ with a 4C (should be the same exact CT, more or less) XM-L is decidedly yellower, more like in the 5s than 4s.

The spill of the S2+ is way more blue, though. So if you do a ceiling-bounce, the S2+ has a beautiful color overall (after all the color-mixing), but the hotspot is definitely an egg-yolk color.

 

I think that’s one thing that’s often overlooked. We tend to look at only the hotspot to judge the CT/tint, when the whole integrated spread from the LED is what’s being binned.

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The best I can explain to you is the yellow coming from the variant I have, is the color of the sun rising/setting. I was looking more for the color of the sun at mid day, no clouds and clear. White colors seem more yellow than actual white. I’ll see if I can post some photos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

Flashlights:

x2 Sk68 modded 1 Nichia 319AT, 1 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x2 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - x1 Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d - x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 Ti - x1 Olight I3T EOS

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sovereignknight wrote:
The best I can explain to you is the yellow coming from the variant I have, is the color of the sun rising/setting.

Sounds like my S2+ (ostensibly 4C)…

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I don’t think I know how to post images correctly to see the difference. I’ll post them but they dont seem to represent what I’m actually seeing. . . The image to the left is the XP-G2 3C S4, and the image to the right is a light with a XP-G3 3C S5. (A custom modded Sk68) (Ill edit this as I go as I’m new to posting like this) The 3C XP-G3 S5 seems to pronounce the whites more than the dingy yellowish XP-G2 3C. Once again I’m not sure you can see it.

Here is a comparison of the MT-G2 Q0, (5000K tint) (Left) http://imgur.com/U3CsGlA to the Jaxman XP-G2 3C S4 (Right)

I hate being a noob trying to post pics lol.

Is it possible I have the wrong bin on the Jaxman light? I was thinking it should be more on the white side @ 5500K than on the lower dingy yellow side.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

Flashlights:

x2 Sk68 modded 1 Nichia 319AT, 1 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x2 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - x1 Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d - x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 Ti - x1 Olight I3T EOS

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Unno, the first one looked nice, the second one kinda blue.

Need to find a white wall and maybe shine both side-by-side (hotspot+spill). The camera can white-balance itself between individual shots…

The MT-G2 looks brighter, so color differences in the pic will shrink.

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I think I’m going to go for the 1A tints. It’s most likely going to deliver the truer whites I’m looking for. I suppose warmer yellow tints aren’t to my liking. I guess not all 3C tints are exactly the same?

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Sovereign Knight wrote:
I think I’m going to go for the 1A tints. It’s most likely going to deliver the truer whites I’m looking for. I suppose warmer yellow tints aren’t to my liking. I guess not all 3C tints are exactly the same?

Unno. If these are all TIRs in the E2L, they should do a much better job mixing colors than a reflector would. Maybe you lost the tint-lottery, no idea.

First time I got my 4C tint in an S2+, it took me a while to get used to it, but I kinda grew to like it. Still, the “4300K-4500K” E2 in a C8 is about my favorite tint, short of a Nichia.

Now? Don’t think I’d touch a CW light unless it were with the intention of doing an emitter-swap. Just looks “blue” to me…

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Update I was able to swap the two 5000K Neutral White 3C E2L models for the 1A 6500K Cool Whites and I am totally loving it! Cool White is definitely for me! Love the E2L! To my eyes it’s a perfect white. The colors look great and I do not notice any blue tint at all! Goodbye SK98, hello E2L!

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Feedback to Jaxman

I bought two of these from mtnelectronics.com. I love the size, and the output. They do better than my custom SK98’s and I’ve spent nearly double the price of the E2L in mods. This is my first Jaxman product I’ve owned. Thank you Jaxman for this incredible, high quality, impressive little light! I love the 1A 6500K version. I don’t even notice or see any blue tint, and the white is so pure. I love it!

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My light-grey E2L 18500 tubes arrived today. Guess I’ll see tonight if the color matches better than the dark grey! Silly

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It will FL2, he doesn’t screw up on his ano, I’m assuming your using this 500 tube with the original E2L light grey ano, if so no issues at all.. it will be a perfect match.

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The percentage isn’t about the size of your photo T18, it’s about the size of the viewer’s screen. So if I’m looking at it on a 24” monitor vs someone looking at it on their phone, it still fits. Wink

So, my monitor does 1920 × 1080, anything larger than that and it’s a larger picture than my screen, like a 2356 width would overlap and I couldn’t see the entire image without scrolling. If you use 100% then the image automatically fits my window that I have open on my screen. And if I go to a laptop that has a 1440 width, it’s still gonna show according to my screen, likewise my wife’s smart phone would still have the image fully viewed on this page.

If you want the image to not take up the entire width of this page from BLF, use something like 50% or 30%, that will keep the image proportionately small no matter what device it’s being viewed on.

At the same time, you can include a full sized 5616 × 3648 image when you post it here, but the 100% option will make it fit the screen. Then if you also post the full size Image in the bottom row in that posting window, you can right click on an image and view it in a new window, then you’ll be able to view it actual size in the new window for a close-up view. Wink

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DB Custom wrote:
The percentage isn’t about the size of your photo T18, it’s about the size of the viewer’s screen. So if I’m looking at it on a 24” monitor vs someone looking at it on their phone, it still fits. Wink

Ah, Yes precisely thank you Dale, got it straight from the master, but wondering if the fella will return to read that info.. ha ha
Thanks Dale

Edit: I think it was info from you when talking about photography one time that I may have got the idea that saving and cropping all my pics into 1024×768 was a good middle of the road for posting here, is that correct Dale
Edit 2: Wow, had to re-read that a couple times, not that it’s complicated but I didn’t know all that, that is very interesting stuff, so double thanks and I cut and posted it in my Book of Dale Info.. seriously a complete PDF size Book with links to your posted project last entry a Ti X6 mod you name it, valuable stuff as I see it, there’s others as well Tom E, KB1428, The Masters..

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Emailed Rey by the way about that maybe extra pill, your light is haunting me.. Silly

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Thank you for that tutorial, I appreciate it! You rock!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

Flashlights:

x2 Sk68 modded 1 Nichia 319AT, 1 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x2 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - x1 Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d - x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 Ti - x1 Olight I3T EOS

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You bet friend, but please read also the post by Dale, it explains one of my statements that was not accurate, and Dale knows exactly the what, how, and why posting pics in that box does what it does and why, his info is exact, I learned something today also, never ends here. Happy to help

Edit: That is DB Custom sorry, not just Dale, but the “D” part anyhow.. ha ha.. oh brother.. LOL

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Will do, thank you!

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Helping you rack up a post count as well, no need to reply .. LOL

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Wow they Nichia 219B versions available if anyone has not seen this already!

E2L Nichia 219B AliExpress

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

Flashlights:

x2 Sk68 modded 1 Nichia 319AT, 1 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x2 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - x1 Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d - x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 Ti - x1 Olight I3T EOS

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sovereignknight wrote:
Wow they Nichia 219B versions available if anyone has not seen this already!

E2L Nichia 219B AliExpress

There are also colored versions of the E2L. Blue, green, red, and yelloworange.

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Sweet! More options! I just purchased a pair of the holsters for the E2L, but I am not sure why AliExpress/Jaxman store does not have PayPal as a payment option.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16 

Flashlights:

x2 Sk68 modded 1 Nichia 319AT, 1 Cree XP-G3 - x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver - x2 Lumintop EDC05 CW - x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4 
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, w/ Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED - x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED - x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c - x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3 - x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII  

x2 Lumintop Tool AA - x1  x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 - x1 Lumintop ODL20C - x1 Lumintop GT mini - x1 Olight i3E EOS - x2 Zebralight SC600w Plus MK IV XHP 50.2 4500k 80 CRI - x1 Fenix CL30R - x1 Lumintop C01 Bike Light - x1 Lumintop Zoom 1 - x2 Zebralight Sc700d - x2 Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 Ti - x1 Olight I3T EOS

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Can anyone make ANYTHING that won’t break?

I know people that could break a 90mm long bar of 25mm diameter Titanium bar stock…

Short answer….. Nope. Wink
I taught school for almost 30 years, I had some Jr High kids that could no doubt have “broken” a superbly heat treated steel brick if given just a bit of time…… Facepalm
It always utterly amazed me at how easily they could tear something up that would have lasted me a lifetime.
And they were not doing it on purpose either………… Facepalm

Thank you for sharing about people who destroy stuff. Very funny.

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I’ve being playing with my E2L for 2 months now. It has become my favorite EDC light, on par to my Zebralight H52F.

It feels very solid in my hand. I don’t have such feeling with some other lights with similar shape. TBH I don’t know exactly why.

Its beam is very bright and floody. And I can tell it’s very efficient since it doesn’t get hot as easily as my Zebralight SC63w.

I chose a very simple UI: L->M->H, it’s just what I need and in the right order.

I would recommend this light to anyone who is into flashlight or just want a solid tool.

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I actually got to test my E2L over the weekend camping, and I must say I was impressed with it. It lit up the trails extremely well. I could hear others as I walked past campsites say “Wow! Look at how bright that flashlight is!” The E2L is my new favorite EDC. Thanks Jaxman for this wonderful light! Let’s hope the E2L will be offered for sale many, many years from now! It’s perfect!

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Just a few days later after camping, I received my official Jaxman holsters from AliExpress. They seem to be of good quality. I have one minor quible though. The snap button, on the inside of the holster is exposed. This will scratch up the light after a while. I’d like to suggest in future productions that some kind of cloth cover this exposed part. Lucky I found a solution. Allen’s Fabric Fusion permenant fabric tape. Got it at Michael’s craft store. All I did was cut a piece, insert it inside the holster, and it works wonderfully.

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hi, friend, the Aliexpress did not give us the Paypal payment option.As a seller,we cant decision of payment solutions.

We accept Paypal payment,but it have to be a off line deal.

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Good to know. Thanks for the info. Really loving the E2L. It’s one of my favorites in my collection. Thanks for making it!

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jaxman wrote:
hi, friend, the Aliexpress did not give us the Paypal payment option.As a seller,we cant decision of payment solutions.

We accept Paypal payment,but it have to be a off line deal.

Will E2L be offered in 5700K natural white like the E2 version? There was not a reply for my question from previously.

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264 wrote:
teacher wrote:
DB Custom wrote:
Can anyone make ANYTHING that won’t break?

I know people that could break a 90mm long bar of 25mm diameter Titanium bar stock…

Short answer….. Nope. Wink
I taught school for almost 30 years, I had some Jr High kids that could no doubt have “broken” a superbly heat treated steel brick if given just a bit of time…… Facepalm
It always utterly amazed me at how easily they could tear something up that would have lasted me a lifetime.
And they were not doing it on purpose either………… Facepalm
Thank you for sharing about people who destroy stuff. Very funny.
I can’t speak for DB, but my pleasure on my part. Thumbs Up
It actually was not real funny, it was kinda sad….. Sad
Utterly amazing, but sad none the less.

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