a new EDC light of 2017- JAXMAN E2L

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djozz wrote:
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But a lighted switch is pretty cheap if you want to give it a shot: “Astrolux SC/SS BLF X5/X6 Flashlight 2LED Lighting Switch For DIY”:https://www.banggood.com/Astrolux-SCSS-BLF-X5X6-Flashlight-Lighting-Swit....

Everything is cheap when you are modding, but unfortunately everything adds up too. Take my next build:

E2L host+shipping $19.50
triple XP Noctigon $3
3x Luxeon V+shipping $13,50
BLF-A6 driver $4.50
Optic $3
Oshpark tail-ring $0.60
6 tailleds and 3 resistors: $0.50
Decent battery: $4.50
Short 18350 tube: $3.50

This is a 52.60 dollar flashlight!

You’re not even adding all the costs…

  • wires
  • solder wire, flux, solder paste, thermal paste, lube, isopropyl alcohol, …
  • electricity
  • tool wear
  • risk of breaking something (and having to buy a replacement)
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Would I have to do that if I’m using a stock driver? Just using the stock 2.1amp driver.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16

 Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3
x2 Sk98 modded XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Lumintop EDC05
x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED
x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED

x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c
x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3
x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII
x1 Lumintop Tool AA
x1 Olight i3E EOS
 x1 Zebralight SC600fd Plus MK IV XHP 50 5000k 93-95 CRI

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can u sell the colored versions to gearbest? i see only the regular jaxmans there not the color, thanks!

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mortuus wrote:
can u sell the colored versions to gearbest? i see only the regular jaxmans there not the color, thanks!

Joson has problems to connect to BLF, so if you need to ask him something, have contact through Gearbest message service Wink
That’s what I did (on Ali) before ordering.
This guy is awesome and gives always a pleasant answer Smile

Yes, I ordered yesterday a 4000K Nichia 219C without strobe-sos.
Waiting… waiting… Xmas will not help shipping Big Smile

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Agro wrote:
djozz wrote:
NeutralFan wrote:
But a lighted switch is pretty cheap if you want to give it a shot: “Astrolux SC/SS BLF X5/X6 Flashlight 2LED Lighting Switch For DIY”:https://www.banggood.com/Astrolux-SCSS-BLF-X5X6-Flashlight-Lighting-Swit....

Everything is cheap when you are modding, but unfortunately everything adds up too. Take my next build:

E2L host+shipping $19.50
triple XP Noctigon $3
3x Luxeon V+shipping $13,50
BLF-A6 driver $4.50
Optic $3
Oshpark tail-ring $0.60
6 tailleds and 3 resistors: $0.50
Decent battery: $4.50
Short 18350 tube: $3.50

This is a 52.60 dollar flashlight!

You’re not even adding all the costs…

  • wires
  • solder wire, flux, solder paste, thermal paste, lube, isopropyl alcohol, …
  • electricity
  • tool wear
  • risk of breaking something (and having to buy a replacement)

LOL

..waiting for parts..

Still looking for 5” parabolic reflector (for recoil light)

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No glue, no glue! Big Smile

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Postman gave me the parcel today : E2L Light Gray 219C-4000K without strobe/SOS Smile

Great product, great beam, just what i wanted Thumbs Up .

But when I tried to mesure stepdown/runtime in High mode, 10mn after ON : the light began flash/strobe like for “low battery” indicator, but battery was full, the flashlight was very hot… is it a thermal protection ?
Is it normal not to be able using the E2L on Hight more than 10mn ?

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TPSS wrote:
Postman gave me the parcel today : E2L Light Gray 219C-4000K without strobe/SOS Smile

Great product, great beam, just what i wanted Thumbs Up .

But when I tried to mesure stepdown/runtime in High mode, 10mn after ON : the light began flash/strobe like for “low battery” indicator, but battery was full, the flashlight was very hot… is it a thermal protection ?
Is it normal not to be able using the E2L on Hight more than 10mn ?


A tube style 18650 flashlight like the S2+ can sustain about 600-800 lumen (or 2000mA) without functionally damage, I even runtime-tested a S2+ at 3A/800lumen and it got 90 degreesC eventually but did not fail, but it would burn your hand. A E2L has some slight finning near the led so it should be able to handle a tiny bit more output but still the limit is probably still close to that of the S2+. The E2L if I’m right comes with a 6×7135 driver, so 2100mA, that should by just be sustainable, but I can imagine that Jaxman has build in a thermal stepdown that kicks in at lower temperature than 90 degC to prevent burning your hands.
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TPSS wrote:
Postman gave me the parcel today : E2L Light Gray 219C-4000K without strobe/SOS Smile

Great product, great beam, just what i wanted Thumbs Up .

But when I tried to mesure stepdown/runtime in High mode, 10mn after ON : the light began flash/strobe like for “low battery” indicator, but battery was full, the flashlight was very hot… is it a thermal protection ?
Is it normal not to be able using the E2L on Hight more than 10mn ?

I have an XP-G2 E2L that runs just fine for over 10 min. You might need to check out your battery. Light should run for 90ish min on high with a 3500mAh NCR18650GA. It will get very hot running sustained for that long though. Nichia 219’s do get hotter than the XP-G2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16

 Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3
x2 Sk98 modded XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Lumintop EDC05
x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED
x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED

x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c
x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3
x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII
x1 Lumintop Tool AA
x1 Olight i3E EOS
 x1 Zebralight SC600fd Plus MK IV XHP 50 5000k 93-95 CRI

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sovereignknight wrote:
I have an XP-G2 E2L that runs just fine for over 10 min. You might need to check out your battery.
Facepalm I wrote “full” battery, but in reality it’s a new one (never used, never charged… still waiting my charger) I expectd new battery were full… Innocent (n00b error)
sovereignknight wrote:
Nichia 219’s do get hotter than the XP-G2.

For the same Amperage or for the same amount of lumens ?
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I think it’s because the Nichia has a lower VF than Cree, so it draws more amps causing the LED to get a bit hotter. It seems if you want a higher CRI like the Nichia offerings, you’ll have to give up some lumens and get a little more heat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16

 Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3
x2 Sk98 modded XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Lumintop EDC05
x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED
x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED

x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c
x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3
x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII
x1 Lumintop Tool AA
x1 Olight i3E EOS
 x1 Zebralight SC600fd Plus MK IV XHP 50 5000k 93-95 CRI

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Have anybody temp measures for Jaxman E2L Nichia?

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sovereignknight wrote:
I think it’s because the Nichia has a lower VF than Cree, so it draws more amps causing the LED to get a bit hotter. It seems if you want a higher CRI like the Nichia offerings, you’ll have to give up some lumens and get a little more heat.

Ok, I thought it was just a lower lumen output for the same power, but indeed the “non-lumens” must end somewhere… in heat !
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matik42 wrote:
Have anybody temp measures for Jaxman E2L Nichia?

That’s right, it lacks a deep review like this one for the E2: http://budgetlightforum.com/node/45162
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I read some Convoy have this option (and some Jaxman had too) :

Group 1: 5-Mode (high—mid—low—fast strobe—SOS strobe)
Group 2: 3-Mode (high—mid—low)
users can switch Group 1 into Group 2 in low mode.vice versa.

Do the E2L have the same option ? (low mode doesn’t blink once like on tne Convoy)

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TPSS wrote:
I read some Convoy have this option (and some Jaxman had too) :

Group 1: 5-Mode (high—mid—low—fast strobe—SOS strobe)
Group 2: 3-Mode (high—mid—low)
users can switch Group 1 into Group 2 in low mode.vice versa.

Do the E2L have the same option ? (low mode doesn’t blink once like on tne Convoy)

That I’m unsure as I run protected cells and the circuit cuts out before lvp does on the light.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16

 Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3
x2 Sk98 modded XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Lumintop EDC05
x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED
x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED

x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c
x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3
x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII
x1 Lumintop Tool AA
x1 Olight i3E EOS
 x1 Zebralight SC600fd Plus MK IV XHP 50 5000k 93-95 CRI

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TPSS wrote:
sovereignknight wrote:
I think it’s because the Nichia has a lower VF than Cree, so it draws more amps causing the LED to get a bit hotter. It seems if you want a higher CRI like the Nichia offerings, you’ll have to give up some lumens and get a little more heat.
Ok, I thought it was just a lower lumen output for the same power, but indeed the “non-lumens” must end somewhere… in heat !

The lower the kelvin LED, the lesser the lumens. To make a NW and WW led like the Nichia, requires darker or additional phosphor. Because of this thicker blanket/darker phosphor covering the blue LED it lowers the lumens vs a CW LED with less/lighter colored phosphor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16

 Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3
x2 Sk98 modded XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Lumintop EDC05
x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED
x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED

x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c
x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3
x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII
x1 Lumintop Tool AA
x1 Olight i3E EOS
 x1 Zebralight SC600fd Plus MK IV XHP 50 5000k 93-95 CRI

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sovereignknight wrote:
TPSS wrote:
I read some Convoy have this option (and some Jaxman had too) :

Group 1: 5-Mode (high—mid—low—fast strobe—SOS strobe)
Group 2: 3-Mode (high—mid—low)
users can switch Group 1 into Group 2 in low mode.vice versa.

Do the E2L have the same option ? (low mode doesn’t blink once like on tne Convoy)

That I’m unsure as I run protected cells and the circuit cuts out before lvp does on the light.


You mean “blink” for low voltage protection ?
No, on the Convoy with 3-5 driver, what I understand is that at startup in Low mode, after a few seconds, light blinks once (and at this moment you can begin group switch procedure) Maybe I’m wrong…
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TPSS wrote:
sovereignknight wrote:
TPSS wrote:
I read some Convoy have this option (and some Jaxman had too) :

Group 1: 5-Mode (high—mid—low—fast strobe—SOS strobe)
Group 2: 3-Mode (high—mid—low)
users can switch Group 1 into Group 2 in low mode.vice versa.

Do the E2L have the same option ? (low mode doesn’t blink once like on tne Convoy)

That I’m unsure as I run protected cells and the circuit cuts out before lvp does on the light.


You mean “blink” for low voltage protection ?
No, on the Convoy with 3-5 driver, what I understand is that at startup in Low mode, after a few seconds, light blinks once (and at this moment you can begin group switch procedure) Maybe I’m wrong…

I don’t know what the E2L’s LVP protection warning pattern is. My batteries have a protection circuit on board and shuts off power before the light’s built in warning has a chance to activate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16

 Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3
x2 Sk98 modded XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Lumintop EDC05
x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED
x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED

x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c
x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3
x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII
x1 Lumintop Tool AA
x1 Olight i3E EOS
 x1 Zebralight SC600fd Plus MK IV XHP 50 5000k 93-95 CRI

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Ok, but I’m not speaking about the LVP blinking Wink
On the Convoy, light blinks one time just seconds after Low mode is selected, and at this very moment you can switch from group 1 to group 2.
Example on video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH0xU8-ilME

It was also possible on the Jaxman X1 (but I don’t know how) and I’m asking if it’s the same thing on the E2L… or not Wink

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TPSS wrote:
Ok, but I’m not speaking about the LVP blinking Wink
On the Convoy, light blinks one time just seconds after Low mode is selected, and at this very moment you can switch from group 1 to group 2.
Example on video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH0xU8-ilME

Then no it’s not the same. The E2L has no selectable groups. Just Low, Med, High. That’s it.

It was also possible on the Jaxman X1 (but I don’t know how) and I’m asking if it’s the same thing on the E2L… or not Wink

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16

 Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3
x2 Sk98 modded XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Lumintop EDC05
x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED
x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED

x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c
x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3
x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII
x1 Lumintop Tool AA
x1 Olight i3E EOS
 x1 Zebralight SC600fd Plus MK IV XHP 50 5000k 93-95 CRI

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TPSS wrote:
Ok, but I’m not speaking about the LVP blinking Wink
On the Convoy, light blinks one time just seconds after Low mode is selected, and at this very moment you can switch from group 1 to group 2.
Example on video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH0xU8-ilME

It was also possible on the Jaxman X1 (but I don’t know how) and I’m asking if it’s the same thing on the E2L… or not Wink

The E2L has only Low, Med, High. There isn’t a group mode. So if it does flash for anything it’s certainly not for changing group modes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_3:16

 Flashlights:

x6 Sk68 modded 3 Nichia 319AT, 3 Cree XP-G3
x2 Sk98 modded XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Solorforce P60 drop in custom XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Lumintop EDC05
x2 Jaxman E2L tripple XP-G2 S4
x1 Jaxman Z1 Zoomie, Cree MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Acebeam K40m thrower with MT-G2 Q0 LED
x1 Xintd SC-82 V5 Limited Edition C8, XM-L2 U4 1C, Qlight Rev.A 7135*8 3.04A Driver
x1 Convoy L6 moded with a Cree XHP-70.2 P2 1D LED
x1 Rare Olight x7 Maurauder with a Nuetral White LED

x1 Astrolux MF-01 Nichia 219c
x1 Astrolux MF-01 Cree XP-G3
x2 Zebralight SC5w MKII
x1 Lumintop Tool AA
x1 Olight i3E EOS
 x1 Zebralight SC600fd Plus MK IV XHP 50 5000k 93-95 CRI

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I’m having a problem trying to replace the stock driver of my E2L. The TIR lens does not move at all, it’s stuck firmly to whatever underneath it. I’m afraid I’m gonna break its legs before I can remove it. Any suggestion?

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Some temperature measurements

"JAXMAN E2L 3LED TIR LENS flashlight 18650 flashlight torch Nichia 219B 219C camping cycling outdoors 4000K":https://www.aliexpress.com/item/JAXMAN-E2L-3LED-TIR-LENS-flashlight-1865...

 

18650 from old laptop battery and ~2100 mAh by my Liitokala Lii 500