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SJ4000 LiIo batteries

The SJ4000 is a high resolution action camera comparable to the GoPro Hero....at a significantly more attractive price. I have 4 of them.  They are very popular and there is a vast array of replacement and aftermarket (high capacity) batteries available for them.   They are 3.7v, LiIo

So recently I bought a few of the "high cap" versions off ebay claimed to be 1000mAh and was very interested to know exactly what the capacity of these high capacity batteries actually was since I paid a premium for them.  The standard OEM batteries are 900mAh rated.

Since there is no way to do this with the camera, I designed and printed a fixture that slips over the SJ4000 battery and makes secure contact with two wires which I can then connect to my Turnigy Accucell 6 to accurately test the capacity.   What I found was interesting....and disappointing.

The two batteries were from an ebay seller known as candys-outlet-store.

Their feedback rating was very good so I purchased two EforTek batteries along with a charger for about $19.00

Upon making my adapter fixture and testing the batteries the result for battery 1 was 930mAh and for the 2nd battery only 830mAh (not even up to par with a standard OEM battery.   Neither reached the advertised 1000mAh capacity.  If I hadn't made the test rig and tested them I would not have known.   At this point I can at least return them for a refund.

If you own an SJ4000,SJ5000,SJ6000,Geekpro,DBPOWER, or Gookit they all use the same battery

I will be purchasing high cap batteries from an alternate source after returning these.  If I find a vendor who sells true Hi-Capacity SJCAM batteries I will post that back here later.

 

 

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Next time go with Wasabi Power batteries. They are just 900mah but they will be true to rating and have 3 year warranty. I have some for GoPro that are over 5 years old and outlasted oem GoPro batteries and have only lost 10% capacity. Wasabi Power are very popular brand for aftermarket camera batteries.

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Smart measuring!
So you bought 2 cells and a charger for 19, they compare pretty good with OEM cells, how much would two OEM cells have cost you?

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Angler wrote:
Next time go with Wasabi Power batteries. They are just 900mah but they will be true to rating and have 3 year warranty. I have some for GoPro that are over 5 years old and outlasted oem GoPro batteries and have only lost 10% capacity. Wasabi Power are very popular brand for aftermarket camera batteries.

 

Thanks!

Will def check into Wasabi batteries

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Smart measuring! So you bought 2 cells and a charger for 19, they compare pretty good with OEM cells, how much would two OEM cells have cost you?

 

Well, the "bad" battery is well below OEM. And the IR is 296milliohms

I haven't prices OEM cells because I wanted extended use.

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Did you measure the capacity of the OEM battery.

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gehrmo wrote:
Did you measure the capacity of the OEM battery.

The OEM batteries all have enough use on them to effect the readings.  They aren't new so the results might not be helpful.

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I just ordered an SJ6000, so this is good information. Thanks!

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sandanbob wrote:
I just ordered an SJ6000, so this is good information. Thanks!

 

Excellent camera!

Congrats.

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I want to get an action camera. How would you rate the SJ4000 over others in the less than $100 range?

Edit: Nevermind, I ordered one based on reviews I’ve read.

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I have two younger kids (8 and 4-1/2) so I figure something like this to play with in the water during the summers will be fun. Smile Maybe in the snow, as well.

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I’ve done tests on a number of different OEM replacement batteries for both camera and cell phones. I cobbled together an arrangement to charge/discharge them on the AC-6 like you did, though not so elegant.
So far I haven’t found any that were as good as stock, though they generally were WAY cheaper. A few made it almost to 80-90%, most were 50-60%, occasionally there were duds. Sick I suggest you do test your used/stock battery. I found several of mine that were still significantly better after 2-3 years use than the new replacements. That’s pretty telling.

I’ve found you can’t use the reviews at all unless you stumble on someone with the knowledge and equipment to make a test like you did, which is VERY VERY rare. People either don’t have a clue, or it’s kind of “these are great vs. these suck”. They really don’t KNOW, they are guessing based on their anecdotal experience and use pattern, which is likely all over the map. Kind of like some people love [Ultrafires] since they actually do work in their light awhile. Facepalm

With supporting pictures I have been able to get refunds IF I bothered. I’d sure like to know a reliable source for replacement batteries that don’t suck.
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Re: Wasabi batteries – I just checked that brand for my Canon SX280. Stock cell is 1000mA. Wasabi claims to be 1300mA. My experience is the bigger the claim, the bigger the lie. I actually bought an Ansmann only claiming 750mA hoping a known brand name and a modest claim would actually be valid……NOT! They were ~660mA.

A couple of reasonable tests conducted on Amazon seemed to indicate this was true for THAT CANON battery. I doubt they make them, so different models could well show different results.
(This test compared video record time in minutes on the camera itself)
Canon: 29, 28
Wasabi #1: 24, 10
Wasabi #2: 27, 8

Separate test.
These cells are much cheaper than Canon’s and seem fine mechanically, but don’t expect 1300 mAh. The actual discharge curves, measured into a 20.1-ohm resistor, showed the capacity to be about 780 mAh (using Wasabi’s charger). Both cells gave very similar results; a couple of charge/discharge cycles made no significant difference.

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flydiver wrote:
I've done tests on a number of different OEM replacement batteries for both camera and cell phones. I cobbled together an arrangement to charge/discharge them on the AC-6 like you did, though not so elegant. So far I haven't found +any+ that were as good as stock, though they generally were WAY cheaper. A few made it almost to 80-90%, most were 50-60%, occasionally there were duds. Sick I suggest you do test your used/stock battery. I found several of mine that were still significantly better after 2-3 years use than the new replacements. That's pretty telling. I've found you can't use the reviews at all unless you stumble on someone with the knowledge and equipment to make a test like you did, which is VERY VERY rare. People either don't have a clue, or it's kind of "these are great vs. these suck". They really don't KNOW, they are guessing based on their anecdotal experience and use pattern, which is likely all over the map. Kind of like some people love [Ultrafires] since they actually do work in their light awhile. Facepalm With supporting pictures I have been able to get refunds IF I bothered. I'd sure like to know a reliable source for replacement batteries that don't suck.

Excellent post flydiver.

Couldn't agree more.  And BTW, I did test the OEM batteries and guess what?  Just as you said, they tested higher capacity than my new "high capacity" batteries.

I forgot who, but another member suggested I try Wassabi Japanese batteries so I ordered those and will return these.  Rest assured, the firt thing I will do when they arrive is run a few cycles and check the capacity.

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Just added to my post when I checked out those Wasabi for possible purchase. I may buy, but I’m not much encouraged. They seem like more of the same BS.

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flydiver wrote:
Just added to my post when I checked out those Wasabi for possible purchase. I may buy, but I'm not much encouraged. They seem like more of the same BS.

Hope not.  I just bought a few.  If they fail the cap test, back they'll go too.

If so, I may try to find some authentic OEM's.  But that may also be a mouse chase.

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atbglenn wrote:
I want to get an action camera. How would you rate the SJ4000 over others in the less than $100 range?

Edit: Nevermind, I ordered one based on reviews I’ve read.

I have had an SJ4000 WiFi for a year now & paid about $45 for it on a deal with 3 batteries & 2 chargers.
I have been very impressed with it for the money Thumbs Up

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atbglenn wrote:
I want to get an action camera. How would you rate the SJ4000 over others in the less than $100 range?

Edit: Nevermind, I ordered one based on reviews I’ve read.

I have had an SJ4000 WiFi for a year now & paid about $45 for it on a deal with 3 batteries & 2 chargers.
I have been very impressed with it for the money Thumbs Up

I use them on sport vehicles, my drones, my motorcycles etc.
Very good camera. I paid about $60 for each one and honestly…..I rarely use my $300.00+ GoPro anymore.

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I use mine on my boat when fishing to make short videos of catches Smile
I needed a water proof camera & when I saw how much the GoPro“s were I thought I would get one of these SJ 4000“s & see how I got on with it before splashing out hundreds of dollars on a GoPro.
I have been so pleased with it I never bothered getting a GoPro Thumbs Up
One thing I would say to anyone thinking of getting an SJ is to do some research first before buying so that you can tell the difference between an SJ & the far inferior clone versions of it that are out there so that you do end up with an SJ.
The SJ is obviously a clone of the GoPro but if you read the many reviews there is little difference between it & a GoPro but the clones of the SJ are nowhere near as good Wink

Ian

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Excellent point. The Clones are no good. You have to get the Authentic Original SJ4000 (or an Authentic SJ5000, SJ6000)

Unfortunately, many have bought the clones then give the real deal a bad name.

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Today I received the Wasabi Power SJ4000 Batteries and charger.
For reference, the Wasabi batteries weigh in at 20 grams…..IR = 202milli-ohms

They’re on the charger now and once charged I’ll run a discharge test on them to see how they do. Hoping for a good outcome here.

On a side note about the other SJ4000 batteries, the seller of those batteries candys-outlet-store, was very cooperative and helpful with the return of the EforTek batteries and charger.

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Zebretta wrote:
Today I received the Wasabi Power SJ400 Batteries and charger.
For reference, the Wasabi batteries weigh in at 20 grams

Curious what the stock batteries weigh.

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The original batteries that ship with an Authentic SJ4000 weigh 18 grams

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This is what I ordered:

SJ6000

I didn’t see that it says the charger adapter is not included- does it charge via USB, so that any USB charging station should work?

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sandanbob wrote:
This is what I ordered: SJ6000 I didn’t see that it says the charger adapter is not included- does it charge via USB, so that any USB charging station should work?

Sir,
I do not mean to be the bearer of bad news, but the camera you purchased appears to be a clone. Not an authentic SJCam.
Authentic SJCameras will have “SJCAM” printed right on the front. Clones are not allowed to do that.

You must be very careful when shopping to ensure that you only buy the Authentic SJCAM. Many have had much lesser results with the cameras that were not Authentic SJCAMS.

As far as charging, the camera has a USB port on the side. All you need is a USB micro cable to charge the battery.

Let us know how your clone works out.

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Good news on the charging, not so much on the source of the camera.

It will get more use once the weather here warms up, but I will see what I can do with it in the mean time (once it arrives.)

What would be a good source for the real SJCams?

Thanks for checking in!

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sandanbob wrote:
Good news on the charging, not so much on the source of the camera. It will get more use once the weather here warms up, but I will see what I can do with it in the mean time (once it arrives.) What would be a good source for the real SJCams? Thanks for checking in!

You’re welcome Smile

Any source that has the word “SJCAM” printed right on the front of the camera is usually fine.
GearBest and BangGood both probably sell the Authentic versions and the Clone versions.

I bought mine from B&HPhoto in New York. They were about $58.00 each IIRC

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Thanks for the input!

I will check those sources out, and wait to see what I actually get.

I am also considering an accessory package that is supposed to be good for the SJ’s and GoPros- they seem to run $20-$30 for quite an assortment. Do you have any recommendation on those?

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I got my SJcam SJ4000 2.0” from B&H Photo. Paid $67, but at least I know it’s authentic. I checked the scratch-off code on the box on their website and it checks out. The only thing I don’t like is the built in speaker. It doesn’t have enough volume even though I set it to maximum. Really doesn’t matter because it plays loud and clear on my computer. Video quality is excellent. So far I’m a happy camper.

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Note that the camera pulls approximately 250mA when recording video if the screen is turned off during record.

First test with the expensive “Wasabi 1100mAh Premium Japanese” batteries……
IR = 202mΩ
From fully charged (4.14v) to fully discharged (3.1v) @ 200mA discharge current. 4hr 45minutes

Some checkpoints on the way….

Volts …..Capacity Used
4.14v…..000mAh
4.00v…..051mAh
3.85v…..200mAh
3.80v…..258mAh
3.60v…..
3.50v…..
3.37v…..877mAh
3.30v…..917mAh
3.20v…..936mAh
3.13v…..944mAh
3.10v…..950mAh (test automatically completed)

So 950mAh is the actual capacity according to my test – 1100mAh is the claimed capacity on the battery.
But…it’s actually hard to find batteries that actually provide OEM capacity so these at least do that.

Since they at least seem to match the OEM capacity, I won’t be returning them, however, cheaper OEM batteries can be found that have the same capacity as these. These appear to be slick marketing of rebranded OEM batteries IMO.

*Conclusion – *
This is the 2nd so called high capacity SJ4000 set of batteries I tested this week. Neither came close to their claimed capacity.
Don’t waste your money on so called High Capacity SJ4000 batteries. Unless someone else has actually bought some and tested the capacity, the best you can probably get is 900mAh OEM batteries. The rest is probably just money making smoke and mirrors….as mentioned above already by flydiver

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sandanbob wrote:
Thanks for the input!

I will check those sources out, and wait to see what I actually get.

I am also considering an accessory package that is supposed to be good for the SJ’s and GoPros- they seem to run $20-$30 for quite an assortment. Do you have any recommendation on those?

Post a link to the package you have in mind…..

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Here are a couple on Amazon, but I know Gearbest has some, and probably Banggood and others.

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