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mmalive wrote:
Hey guys, I finally picked up the 1000 lumen version of this light. Anyway to MOD to accept 26650? .

A 3C light can often be made to fit 2×26650, I have a 3C light I’m currently converting that way.

  • First see if the tube is wide enough, some aren’t and some are, it also depends on the cell itself, some 26650 are wider than others, for example the 3C light I’m converting will fit Trustfire protected 26650’s but won’t fit Xtar’s or Liitokala’s (both too wide)
  • Next issue is the length, some 26650’s are longer than others, protected being the longest, even with the longer cells you most likely will need to add some length, either with a longer spring, magnets or a contact spacer like this: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Connector-for-flat-battery-seri... You will usually need something like this regardless between the to cells if they’re flat tops to make contact in series, you can also add a solder blob or a contact magnet.
  • If the tube is not wide enough to fit 26650 you can instead go with 2× 21700 and use a sleeve or some o-rings to make up the extra width.
  • 3x C = about 150mm
  • 2× 26650 = 140-150mm
  • 2× 21700 = about 141mm

With the 3* stock emitters on that Defiant you’d need a buck driver, or better yet swap them out with some 6V emitters like XHP50.2 and use a FET w/zener mod.
EDIT: You could also use 3S 26500 and 3* LED’s in series.

Another option is to use one 26650 and one “Dummy” cell, put the dummy cell in one of those 18650 to 26650 sleeves.
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Dummy-Cell-Space-occupation-0V-... Then you can run the 3V or stock emitters with a regular DD/FET or 7135 based driver.

You could also make a dummy cell with a metal or copper post and some plastic. (see post #26 in this thread) Probably the best plan then you can make the dummy cell long enough for perfect fit.

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mmalive wrote:
FYI: HomeDepot listed a 1200 lumen version of this light. Can’t add it to cart though.
Wow, it’s even cheaper than the 1000lm model!

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Defiant-1200-Lumen-LED-Flashlight-18FL0209/3...

But I guess it’s new and isn’t available yet. It looks pretty much the same as the 1000lm, I wonder what they did to bump the output.

I’ll be keeping an eye on that one, also when it becomes available they might clearance out the 1000lm models.

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mmalive wrote:
Hey guys, I finally picked up the 1000 lumen version of this light. Anyway to MOD to accept 26650? .

A 3C light can often be made to fit 2×26650, I have a 3C light I’m currently converting that way.

  • First see if the tube is wide enough, some aren’t and some are, it also depends on the cell itself, some 26650 are wider than others, for example the 3C light I’m converting will fit Trustfire protected 26650’s but won’t fit Xtar’s or Liitokala’s (both too wide)
  • Next issue is the length, some 26650’s are longer than others, protected being the longest, even with the longer cells you most likely will need to add some length, either with a longer spring, magnets or a contact spacer like this: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Connector-for-flat-battery-seri... You will usually need something like this regardless between the to cells if they’re flat tops to make contact in series, you can also add a solder blob or a contact magnet.
  • If the tube is not wide enough to fit 26650 you can instead go with 2× 21700 and use a sleeve or some o-rings to make up the extra width.
  • 3x C = about 150mm
  • 2× 26650 = 140-150mm
  • 2× 21700 = about 141mm

With the 3* stock emitters on that Defiant you’d need a buck driver unless you rewire them to series, better yet swap them out with some 6V emitters like XHP50.2 and use a FET w/zener mod.

Another option is to use one 26650 and one “Dummy” cell, put the dummy cell in one of those 18650 to 26650 sleeves.
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Dummy-Cell-Space-occupation-0V-... Then you can run the 3V or stock emitters with a regular DD/FET or 7135 based driver.

You could also make a dummy cell with a metal or copper post and some plastic. (see post #26 in this thread)

Great information. The primary concern has to be cost effective. Mods are fun ,but if the cost is more than I would rather use money buying better high output rechargeable light.

I just purchased 4 of Digital Energy 26650 for my Utorch UT02 and considering using 1 for the Defiant light. Some of those copper sized tubes, caps are not at my Homedepot. If any you guys have extras and can do Mod to accept 26650 then I can service fee.

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Good point. There also may be a way to boost power on the stock light by resistor mod.

1* 26650 cell
1* dummy cell
1* Resistor

1+1+1= low cost upgrade.

For those copper sized tubes and caps, if you’re looking at post #26 maybe check the store again or try Lowes or any hardware store, 1/2” copper tubing and closed end caps are VERY common items. I think it would be much cheaper to just use a 1/4” or 3/8” steel bolt for the conductor, then wrap with electrical tape or find some plastic rod to insulate.

Making your own dummy cell instead of buying one is probably the best plan for this so you can make the dummy cell long enough for perfect fit.

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mmalive wrote:

I just purchased 4 of Digital Energy 26650 for my Utorch UT02 and considering using 1 for the Defiant light.

Hmmm curious, never heard of those cells, are they these? https://www.amazon.com/rechargeable-Applicable-Flashlight-Electric-House...

Couldn’t find any info on the forum and no worthwile reviews on amazon, were they recommended? Or did you just take a chance on them?
Do you have an analyzer/charger to check actual capacity?

Also I see the discharge current is rated in c-rate, personally I don’t know how that converts to the amperage ratings we usually see.

  • Continuous discharge current: 0.5C
  • Maximum discharge current: 2C
  • Capacity:5000mAh

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mmalive wrote:

I just purchased 4 of Digital Energy 26650 for my Utorch UT02 and considering using 1 for the Defiant light.

Hmmm curious, never heard of those cells, are they these? https://www.amazon.com/rechargeable-Applicable-Flashlight-Electric-House...

Couldn’t find any info on the forum and no worthwile reviews on amazon, were they recommended? Or did you just take a chance on them?
Do you have an analyzer/charger to check actual capacity?

Also I see the discharge current is rated in c-rate, personally I don’t know how that converts to the amperage ratings we usually see.

  • Continuous discharge current: 0.5C
  • Maximum discharge current: 2C
  • Capacity:5000mAh

These were sold online a few years back. I do not have pics though.

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beam0 wrote:
Good point. There also may be a way to boost power on the stock light by resistor mod.

1* 26650 cell
1* dummy cell
1* Resistor

1+1+1= low cost upgrade.

For those copper sized tubes and caps, if you’re looking at post #26 maybe check the store again or try Lowes or any hardware store, 1/2” copper tubing and closed end caps are VERY common items. I think it would be much cheaper to just use a 1/4” or 3/8” steel bolt for the conductor, then wrap with electrical tape or find some plastic rod to insulate.

Making your own dummy cell instead of buying one is probably the best plan for this so you can make the dummy cell long enough for perfect fit.

I am very new to MODS so it will not easy. Blue prints, drawings, or pictures with descriptions will help a lot.
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mmalive wrote:

I just purchased 4 of Digital Energy 26650 for my Utorch UT02 and considering using 1 for the Defiant light.

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These were sold online a few years back. I do not have pics though.

But you “just” purchased them??

Do they look like the ones in the amazon link? Were you able to test capacity?

I’m curious about them because I’m looking for some thinner unprotected 26650’s for a light I’m upgrading from 3C. These are showing 1.03” diameter / 26.16mm which would work, was going to ask you to confirm the measurement if possible, but if you bought them years ago I’m not sure they’d be the same unless they look exactly like the photos on amazon.

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Something like this, but you could use a steel bolt, a rod or metal dowel rod, steel aluminum copper etc.
There’s a few “pictorial instruction” threads on blf about making them, but photophucket killed those too.

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/56037

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beam0 wrote:
mmalive wrote:

I just purchased 4 of Digital Energy 26650 for my Utorch UT02 and considering using 1 for the Defiant light.

mmalive wrote:

These were sold online a few years back. I do not have pics though.

But you “just” purchased them??

Do they look like the ones in the amazon link? Were you able to test capacity?

I’m curious about them because I’m looking for some thinner unprotected 26650’s for a light I’m upgrading from 3C. These are showing 1.03” diameter / 26.16mm which would work, was going to ask you to confirm the measurement if possible, but if you bought them years ago I’m not sure they’d be the same unless they look exactly like the photos on amazon.

I bought them locally and shipped to me. I will try to send pictures when I have them in hand.

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If I remember right, the Radio Shack near me had various “Digital Energy” branded cells when I checked out their clearance sale a few years ago. Even then, the prices were ridiculous, so I didn’t look too closely.

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Husky 500 lm version with an XP-G3 that will better suit the use.

Yeah, I saw that one. But the lumen rating is half the Defiant one. The barrel will fit 26650 more easily. All Husky lights are loose and batteries rattle easy.

I own the 650 lumen 3 d cell and they rattle.

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“Battery bonk” is what I call it when batteries rattle against the insides of the battery tube .It’s made worse with multiple cells and 3 has got to be painful . I started off using the slick postcard thickness junk mail to create paper tubes for the batteries to slide down into . Now I just use a drinking straw cut to the length of the cell or cells and slit the straw lengthwise. It doesn’t go all the way around the cell but it quiets down and eliminates battery bonk ..That obnoxious battery rattle just makes a light feel cheap.

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mmalive wrote:
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Husky 500 lm version with an XP-G3 that will better suit the use.

Yeah, I saw that one. But the lumen rating is half the Defiant one. The barrel will fit 26650 more easily. All Husky lights are loose and batteries rattle easy.

Guessing you guys are talking about the 3C version of the Husky 500lm?

I’ve got a 4xAA Husky 500lm, and to the naked eye, it puts outs as much light as the 1,000 lm Defiant. Alas, being a 4xAA light makes it problematic to convert to li-ion, which is a shame because it chews through AA cells in no time – 30 mins on NiMH on high, if that.

I’m getting about 11 Watts from the Husky 4xAA, and about 13 Watts from Defiant 3C.

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mmalive wrote:
BROODMASTER wrote:
Husky 500 lm version with an XP-G3 that will better suit the use.

Yeah, I saw that one. But the lumen rating is half the Defiant one. The barrel will fit 26650 more easily. All Husky lights are loose and batteries rattle easy.

Guessing you guys are talking about the 3C version of the Husky 500lm?

I’ve got a 4xAA Husky 500lm, and to the naked eye, it puts outs as much light as the 1,000 lm Defiant. Alas, being a 4xAA light makes it problematic to convert to li-ion, which is a shame because it chews through AA cells in no time – 30 mins on NiMH on high, if that.

I’m getting about 11 Watts from the Husky 4xAA, and about 13 Watts from Defiant 3C.

Yeah Pete the 3 C version at 500 lumens. The MOD I did for Defiant 1000 lumens will work for use of the 26650. The only reason I did not pick up is because lumen rating is lower for Husky light.

BTW, if you want Husky lights pick them up. Some are out of production : 650 lumen 3 D cell, 500 lumen spotlight 3 C cells, etc…

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Can’t not wait to see if 1200 Defiant will be released.

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Please! Someone post pictures on how the 3C triple is disassembled!
Like I said, I get 7+ Amps with my 26650 (28+ watts) but don’t want to overdrive the driver or switch until I know how to upgrade it. This is an awesome throwing flooder and I’m sure I’m producing greater than 1200 lumens.
I still want to know what emitter it uses ???.

I burned out the Husky 500 4AA driver and replaced it with a Qlite +1 7135 chip. The driver retaining ring has a lot of space and you need a 26mm driver or contact board to make all tight. !{width:25%}HUSKY 4AA XP-G3 https://imgur.com/a/EHq0i!
I used a copper washer to adapt the driver to fit.
I replaced the XP-G3 with an XM-L2 3C on 20mm Noctigon DTP. The only issue I have with this light is the reflector… kinda ugly beam.

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BROODMASTER wrote:
Please! Someone post pictures on how the 3C triple is disassembled!
Like I said, I get 7+ Amps with my 26650 (28+ watts) but don’t want to overdrive the driver or switch until I know how to upgrade it. This is an awesome throwing flooder and I’m sure I’m producing greater than 1200 lumens.
I still want to know what emitter it uses ???.

I burned out the Husky 500 4AA driver and replaced it with a Qlite +1 7135 chip. The driver retaining ring has a lot of space and you need a 26mm driver or contact board to make all tight. My photo log
I used a copper washer to adapt the driver to fit.
I replaced the XP-G3 with an XM-L2 3C on 20mm Noctigon DTP. The only issue I have with this light is the reflector… kinda ugly beam.

The Defiant 1000 lumen is encased in 1 piece. The only thing remove able I can see is tail cap, and head bezel area.

The Husky one is the worse. The thing is built from 1 solid unit. Meaning all emitters, dome, is enclosed as 1 unit. You have to destroy light is you want to MOD. The only thing that comes apart is tail cap.

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mmalive wrote:
BROODMASTER wrote:
Please! Someone post pictures on how the 3C triple is disassembled!
Like I said, I get 7+ Amps with my 26650 (28+ watts) but don’t want to overdrive the driver or switch until I know how to upgrade it. This is an awesome throwing flooder and I’m sure I’m producing greater than 1200 lumens.
I still want to know what emitter it uses ???.

I burned out the Husky 500 4AA driver and replaced it with a Qlite +1 7135 chip. The driver retaining ring has a lot of space and you need a 26mm driver or contact board to make all tight. Husky 4AA Modified 4AA XP-G3 https://imgur.com/a/EHq0i
I used a copper washer to adapt the driver to fit.
I replaced the XP-G3 with an XM-L2 3C on 20mm Noctigon DTP. The only issue I have with this light is the reflector… kinda ugly beam.

The Defiant 1000 lumen is encased in 1 piece. The only thing remove able I can see is tail cap, and head bezel area.

The Husky one is the worse. The thing is built from 1 solid unit. Meaning all emitters, dome, is enclosed as 1 unit. You have to destroy light is you want to MOD. The only thing that comes apart is tail cap.

Nope! Take a look at my photos in the link. Husky 4AA Modified 4AA XP-G3 https://imgur.com/a/EHq0i You need to apply hot air from a hair dryer or heat gun because the head is glued on. The glue is a slicone, soft type but you have to be patient. It took a minute or more to heat it up and then you apply steady pressure. It will come off.

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BROODMASTER wrote:
mmalive wrote:
BROODMASTER wrote:
Please! Someone post pictures on how the 3C triple is disassembled!
Like I said, I get 7+ Amps with my 26650 (28+ watts) but don’t want to overdrive the driver or switch until I know how to upgrade it. This is an awesome throwing flooder and I’m sure I’m producing greater than 1200 lumens.
I still want to know what emitter it uses ???.

I burned out the Husky 500 4AA driver and replaced it with a Qlite +1 7135 chip. The driver retaining ring has a lot of space and you need a 26mm driver or contact board to make all tight. Husky 4AA Modified 4AA XP-G3 https://imgur.com/a/EHq0i
I used a copper washer to adapt the driver to fit.
I replaced the XP-G3 with an XM-L2 3C on 20mm Noctigon DTP. The only issue I have with this light is the reflector… kinda ugly beam.

The Defiant 1000 lumen is encased in 1 piece. The only thing remove able I can see is tail cap, and head bezel area.

The Husky one is the worse. The thing is built from 1 solid unit. Meaning all emitters, dome, is enclosed as 1 unit. You have to destroy light is you want to MOD. The only thing that comes apart is tail cap.

Nope! Take a look at my photos in the link. Husky 4AA Modified 4AA XP-G3 https://imgur.com/a/EHq0i You need to apply hot air from a hair dryer or heat gun because the head is glued on. The glue is a slicone, soft type but you have to be patient. It took a minute or more to heat it up and then you apply steady pressure. It will come off.

Really?, yeah you have to be patient for sure. Which most of us do not have.

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Considering the 3C triple, it looks like there are metal tabs that secure the pill to the battery tube. I hope not! I guess to really find out, I’d have to be willing to destroy it. But why break it if it ain’t broke? LOL.
Now with the 500 Lm Husky, with perseverance, determination and patience, I’ve been rewarded with a little modding fun and that’s just one of the many interests most of the people have in this forum. I waited on those copper washers to arrive so I could install the 1st driver (9*7135 Qlite) I had on hand. Richard didn’t have the (FET Driver – 26mm – 2S+ Cell: LDO (Momentary) NO LVP – Firmware: Standard w/ Memory – Turbo Timer: 90 Seconds) mosfet driver I originally wanted but it came in and I have it ready. I’ll be able to use the 4AA carrier, 2*26500s or just a 26650. I didn’t opt for the LVP so it should light up MORE or less with all these battery options.

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BROODMASTER wrote:
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I was happy to see a Shockli 26650, 4200 mAh fits
What are you using for a spacer?
1/2” copper tube, w/ nibco caps and PVC insulator

I refitted a 2×C River Rock light to take a 26650. Cut a section of foam tube (like you’d stuff under drafty doors) with a metal rod down the center. Forgot what metal I used, probably just chopped a long-enough brass screw to fit.

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If I remember right, the Radio Shack near me had various “Digital Energy” branded cells when I checked out their clearance sale a few years ago. Even then, the prices were ridiculous, so I didn’t look too closely.

I got a few, and at least capacity-wise, they were quite good. (Good per the capacity rating on the wrap, that is.)

Don’t recall the 26650 (bought 2, 1 bricked, 1 still going in an F13), but it tested at or above its capacity rating. Same with a pair of 16340s for my Jet-II.

I got mine probably just before the mass slaughter of stores, when they wanted stuff cleared out yesterday. Prices were decent, from what little I recall. No complaints.

You’d be retarded to buy them for full-price, but for the 5bux for a pair of 26650s or whatever the deal was, yeah, I got a set.

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Well, I modified Home Depot to accept both single 18650 or 22650 battery running “ stock emitters and driver “ The light seems brighter with Li ions running it.

I fabricated a “ dummy cell “ out of thicker grade copper pipe with copper end caps. The cooper “ dummy cell “ fits snug inside flashlight barrel. Then used a 26650 that fit in barrel.

For the 18650 mod. I used a kids toy tube OD 15/16 inch and ID 7/8 inch for battery spacer. Used contact cement to glue 1/32” foam to inside and outside of tube. Then used black duct tape to wrap inside of tube. The process prevents any type of rattle. Battery fits snug inside tube. Tube fits snug inside of flashlight barrel.

Painted the entire battery spacer tube black. Looks like it came from factory.

Now I can use 3 types of batteries if I run into jam. 18650, 26650, or Alkaleaks ( emergency )

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mmalive, which 26650 cell are you using? I know some are too wide to fit in this light.

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mmalive, which 26650 cell are you using? I know some are too wide to fit in this light.

Pete, I will have to look I forgot what name brand was. The other ones that will work is Liokita, Keeppower 5200, Efest 4200, 5000

On related note: Anyone need battery converter to use 18650? I fabricated a few. Looking sell to a few to fund other projects.

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What kind of LEDs are in this light, does anyone know?

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mmalive, which 26650 cell are you using? I know some are too wide to fit in this light.

 

This is the one I used, snug but fits: http://www.mtnelectronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_108&product_id=679

See post #26.

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Been pretty busy.

Update : I modified the flashlight to accept.

CR123A

18650

26650

So I have many options if I run into jam and need power source.

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I bought some Liitokala 21700s (yellow), made a new Cu dummy cell/tube and I'm pushing 9A through this light. I was a little worried about a POOF but it's handling the current. Since this light has unknown manufacturer emitters, I can't say for sure but I'm hoping it's putting out at least 2000 lumens. It definitely has a high candela.

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