EAGLE EYE X9 XHP70LED inside Hard Light flashlight 26650/18650 3800LM

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Tom_182 wrote:
Anything new about this light? Has someone received one until today?

No new info since last post.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
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weklund wrote:
I'm about to purchase one of these beauties. Please recommend 2 x 26650 batteries for the X9 from AliExpress website. Many Thanks.

 

OP - could you please give an answer to the above question as to which 26650 batteries you recommend to work best with the X9?

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I’m very tempted by this new X9 but was expecting a slightly lower price.
Being a direct opponent of Convoy L6 and Thorfire S70(S) I would expect a similar price (in the 50$ area).
I much prefer your form factor however, with much less weight (okay, less thermal dissipation too)

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I’m very tempted by this new X9 but was expecting a slightly lower price.
Being a direct opponent of Convoy L6 and Thorfire S70(S) I would expect a similar price (in the 50$ area).
I much prefer your form factor however, with much less weight (okay, less thermal dissipation too)

If you look at prices from the factory stores you’ll see the Convoy L6 is $65 and the S70s is $70, so the X9 is cheaper than both. (BTW, Jin Lang is the factory Eagle Eye store)

I think your seeing those cheaper prices at non-factory stores where they are discounted more. If Banggood or Gearbest start carrying the X9 model I’m sure the price will be less. It’s still very new, though. I haven’t even seen a single review so far.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

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I’m sorry, my friend, but the cost is too high,the host,driver,LED,and transportation cost,please forgive. Sad

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I’m sorry, my friend, but the cost is too high,the host,driver,LED,and transportation cost,please forgive. Sad

Hey, nothing to forgive don’t worry Smile
I’m sure you will sell plenty even at this price ! It’s still stylish and powerful, but you know how we are at BLF Wink

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I got my Eagle Eye X9 in the mail today. Big Smile

Looks very nice, the SS bezel is robust and really trims the light well. Reflector is deep, beam profile has a tighter hot spot than I expected to see. Color is white, initial look shows. It has a nice tube inserted to allow use of 18650’s so I stuck a pair of LG MJ1 button tops in and checked it out…

0.04A for 40.71 lumens
0.58A for 710.7
1.62A for 1683.6
4.84A for 3211.95

Nice! I’m expecting some 5000mAh LiitoKala 26650’s soon so I’ll see how those work. Meanwhile I’ll play around with a few other cell choices and let y’all know if there’s any major changes…

Thanks Mr. Fang! Smile

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DB Custom wrote:
I got my Eagle Eye X9 in the mail today. Big Smile

Looks very nice, the SS bezel is robust and really trims the light well. Reflector is deep, beam profile has a tighter hot spot than I expected to see. Color is white, initial look shows. It has a nice tube inserted to allow use of 18650’s so I stuck a pair of LG MJ1 button tops in and checked it out…

0.04A for 40.71 lumens
0.58A for 710.7
1.62A for 1683.6
4.84A for 3211.95

Nice! I’m expecting some 5000mAh LiitoKala 26650’s soon so I’ll see how those work. Meanwhile I’ll play around with a few other cell choices and let y’all know if there’s any major changes…

Thanks Mr. Fang! Smile


Could you give us a quick word about the UI?

Is it one click to on with memory?

Extra clicks cycle through modes?

Press and hold for off?

I’m just guessing.

Does the driver size and shape look like it might fit the L6?

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My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

6 NarsilM user videos https://www.youtube.com/user/JasonWW2000

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Press and hold for approx 1 second on/off. It has last mode memory. L-H direction on mode changes. Double click when on for Strobe. Single click to change modes. Strobe is the tactical type with ~6 fast blinks then a flurry then repeat.

Driver looks to be 20mm.

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Press and hold for approx 1 second on/off. It has last mode memory. L-H direction on mode changes. Double click when on for Strobe. Single click to change modes. Strobe is the tactical type with ~6 fast blinks then a flurry then repeat.
SickTired

Ah, I guess it’s official. All the lights in this style (L6, S70, S70s and X9) will accidentally activate strobe if you cycle through the levels too fast. I get so fed up with this design.

Is this the current trend?
Do customers want this?

What is wrong with a click on/off and press and hold to cycle the modes?

Don’t even have strobe, but if you must, then a double click with the above suggestion would assure you never accidentally activate it.

It makes me want to stick a stock FX30 in my L6 with a resistor mod. It has press and hold for strobe which is great. I’ll just live with the closely spaced levels and 3 minute turbo timer.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

6 NarsilM user videos https://www.youtube.com/user/JasonWW2000

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A click on/off leads to accidental on and drained batteries at the least with fire potential high on the list.

Why exactly do you need to cycle through the modes so fast?

Edit: On this one, you can run through the modes quickly without activating strobe. Strobe takes a fast double tap that is almost difficult to do.

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The reflector is 46.8mm in diameter at the opening and 47.4mm deep including the centering ring! Well made, heavy construction. The mcpcb is copper but I don’t know if it’s DTP at this point. The driver is one of those that has the vertical board coming off the 20mm contact board, haven’t taken it out yet but I can see the inset feet from the board on the contact board. Not glued. Big Smile

Wait till y’all see one! The SS bezel is a CHUNK!

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Little late to the party, but just ordered one. I cannot resist SS bezels like this one has. It will sure get ramping Narsil.

Me too - Dale if you get time, love to see details on the innards. If it's a straight 20 mm driver with an external mounted switch, that's great.

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The SS bezel is 59 grams naked, not even an o-ring on it!

25mm very thick copper mcpcb, it’s about a mm larger diameter than a 26mm MaxToch mcpcb but about 50% again thicker, so I decided to slice the dome off and try it before putting an XHP-50.2 in it. And this slice removed the dark center in the hot spot while tightening the hot spot noticeably. I lost some lumens, with the two LG MJ-1’s at 75% charge it is making 2711.7 now.

I still didn’t remove the driver. It seemed snug in there with the retaining ring removed and I was going to remove the switch retaining ring but it’s blackened and I didn’t want to take a chance on scarring it up just yet. The wires are too thin, I know that much, and spring bypasses would of course assist. I’ll get the driver out, just taking it slow as I really like my Eagle Eye lights and I don’t want to mess anything up in haste on this one. Big Smile

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With the LG MJ1 cells charged back up and the XHP-70 sliced it makes 3053.25 lumens, not much loss from the original 3211.95. I’ll take it! lol

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DB Custom wrote:
A click on/off leads to accidental on and drained batteries at the least with fire potential high on the list.

Why exactly do you need to cycle through the modes so fast?

Edit: On this one, you can run through the modes quickly without activating strobe. Strobe takes a fast double tap that is almost difficult to do.


I see, it’s for the dummies who don’t know to lock it out when not in use. I guess I can understand that. Safety and all. Lol

I just tend to change modes fast. When the strobe gets activated by accident I want to throw the light as far as a can. Silly

Anyway, I’m glad to hear you say the timing is such that accidental strobe blast is quite hard to do. I guess I’m okay with that.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

6 NarsilM user videos https://www.youtube.com/user/JasonWW2000

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I took it outside to check out the beam profile and slicing the dome made all the difference… no dark spot in the center at all. I can see black cows out at about 200-225 yds laying in the dark grass. Not bad at all.

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zak.wilson wrote:
Dear flashlight manufacturers, please stop making lights where single-clicks change between normal modes and double-clicks activate strobe. Trying to cycle through modes and getting strobe by mistake is just about the worst thing ever.

Seconded.

DB Custom wrote:
Why exactly do you need to cycle through the modes so fast?

Why exactly should I have to wait around and time my presses so precisely? I turn my L6 on, it’s on low, I want it to be on turbo, three presses is all it should take. Inevitably, however, I’m treated to amateur discotheque hour.

I want a cool white light about as much as I want Cool Ranch Soda.

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On the L6, it needs a press and hold for strobe. That would solve that.

If Simon redesigns the driver to include a lighted side switch, maybe we can get him to change strobe to a long press. Wink

Dale, on the X9, has the reduced mass/size any cause for concern as far as it heating up too quickly? I know a lot of folks were worried about that.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

6 NarsilM user videos https://www.youtube.com/user/JasonWW2000

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The copper mcpcb is among the thickest I’ve seen, looks to be about half again thicker than an MaxToch. So that is good. The small finned section where the switch is just so happens to be exactly where the heat is going. Also good. I didn’t get a read on how thick the emitter shelf is, but when I took it outside it was warming up but didn’t get hot in the few minutes I had it on before the bugs discovered the light. (It’s June Bug season here, big fat whoppers slamming into everything. Lousy flyers.)

I’ll get a better idea how it takes the power this weekend.

My beam shot alley is totally screwed. My Dad’s brother bought a 5th wheel trailer and decided it’s too big for him, so Dad let him park it out here while he tries to sell it. Dang thing is 34’ long and 13’ high! Of course, he parked it right smack in the middle of my side yard where I shoot beam shots. UGH! I need to look and see if I can shoot a hot spot past it, the big white trailer will sure show up in the night though. lol

Edit: Beamshot alley is clear, the trailer is North of where I need to shine by enough of a margin. Lightning tells me to wait til tomorrow night…

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My X9 is still help up in shipping, though there's hope it may come soon. The Mission M12 was also held up but finally showed up in NY yesterday.

That bezel looks like it restricts the width of the reflector - can't really tell though from the pics.

Mine was the last ordered bout 4 weeks ago - not selling crazy, for sure - must be my kind of light! 

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Tom, the X9 will surprise you… it’s got good power but it’s silly lightweight, like it makes you think it doesn’t have cells in it when you pick it up. About to use mine to walk the trash can down to the road for morning pick-up. Even my wife asked me if it had batteries in it the first time she used it.

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When this X9 will be lower in price iit will be a real concern for the L6/S70S.
Lightweight, classy design and same lumens (but less throw, but neither L6 and S70S are thrower so…)

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The X9 just so happened to show up today! Wow, it feels so small in a way. Thermally it's an odd design - no fins, thin body where mass and fins are needed the most. Also some sharp edges on the SS bezel, but the thin design makes it an easy carry for a 2 cell bigger style light. 

The box is very well padded,light seems in exc. condition

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Interesting light isn’t it Tom? Lightweight, but still it seems to put quite a lot of light out the front and is pretty easy to handle.

Have been curious what your thoughts on this one would be…

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It's very comfortable in the hand because you are not holding a massive head light where the switch is. It's somewhat wasteful in length but comfortable to hold. I gotta get it setup with cells and play some.

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Guys, you mind sharing some pics with us ?
I’m interested with this one and would want to put things in perspective with, say, some other known models maybe ?
I find flashlights in hand pictures really useful too

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Sorry no pics yet. I ordered the N4 3C, but it's hard to believe it's an N4 bin, but the tint looks to be a great NW - milky white consistent tint through all zones of the beam.

 

   Tail amps on LK 5000 cells: 4.7A, lumens: 2,850 @start, 2,770 @30 secs, 36 kcd (380m) measured at 5 m

 

 This is well under the 3,800 lumens rating. I'm not familiar enough with what 4.7A should get you with an N4 bin, but for it to be 73% in my testing of what it's rated is pretty far off. For example, last night, along with the X9 I measured Lumintop SD26 and SDMini lights and both measured higher than their ratings: ~1,060 lumens on each with both rated at 1,000 lumens.

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Those are bad news… What does EagleEye have to say about that ?

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