Finally the XHP70.2 emerges!

http://www.cree.com/News-and-Events/Cree-News/Press-Releases/2017/March/Cree-Second-Generation-Extreme-High-Power-LED-Delivers-Unmatched-Efficacy-Lumen-Density

” In addition to light output and efficacy enhancements, the XHP70.2 LED improves optical uniformity through secondary optics, enabling lighting manufacturers to deliver better lighting performance. ”

Hopefully sans-hole like the XHP50.2!

It already shows in the tiny picture of the led led that the build is the same as the XHP50.2
Great news!!

:+1: :+1:

Nice and interesting. XHP70 is a lot more popular than XHP50 in the flashlight world, so I do wonder how many existing lights will be updated with XHP70.2. First light that comes to mind that I’m interested in is the Thrunite TN36-UT…

Can’t wait for the next generation of ThorFire lights with this beast.

Good news!

Thing is with existing XHP70 lights that they have heavy OP reflectors, which you may not want when using the XHP70.2. The only light that comes to mind that is instantly ready for the upgrade is the Convoy L6 that has a smooth reflector available.

I don’t think xhp70.2 will have any problem with smo or op reflectors, first gen had issues with smo reflectors.

On the picture you can see it still has room between the dies so there might still be a donut hole…
Hope not…

WOOO
djozz, you better get one and do your tests asap :smiley:

http://www.cree.com/LED-Components-and-Modules/Products/XLamp/Arrays-Directional/XLamp-XHP702

Yep some one get one to djozz stat!

Now for the fun part lets all guess max output?

9000 lumens? :smiley:

Ah, that’s interesting. So XHP70.2 with smooth reflector is feasible then… nice… TN36-UT with smooth reflector then! Especially because it’s a triple, so more artifacts are smoothed out compared to single emitter… So it’s interesting to see what manufacturers are going to offer…

XM-L2 is next big thing after that.
Edit. XM-L3 :smiley:

Thanks for the great news!
I wonder what numbers people will be getting for these when FET driven.
I’m excited to see how this does in an L6 with SMO reflector and a FET driver.
Also does anyone think that the OLight x9 will switch to using these before release?

EDIT: Here are the specs from Cree (Sorry for the poor formating)

Size 7x7 mm
Product Options 6 V
12 V
High-CRI
Maximum Drive Current 4.8 A (6 V)
2.4 A (12 V)
Maximum Power 29 W
Maximum Light Output 4292 lm
Typical Forward Voltage 5.6 V White @ 2100 mA (6 V)
11.2 V White @ 1050 mA (12 V)
Viewing Angle 125 °
Binning 85°C
ANSI (White)
2- 3- and 5-Step EasyWhite®
Thermal Resistance 0.9 °C/W
Reflow Solderable Yes - JEDEC J-STD-020C-compatible
REACH-Compliant Yes
RoHS-Compliant Yes

not really the reason, donuts are due to improper focus, i had donuts with xml, and other single die leds. i also have few multi die led lights that have smooth, even beam with no holes or crosses. it is all about the optic,

some optic covers it pretty good, i tried led engin TIR lens, iirc 83mm diameter, i use it with xhp 50, smooth tight beam. splattered maglite reflector removes any imperfections from the beam of P7 led, thou P7’s had different material used for primary optic, some domes are clear, some a bit foggy. iirc xhp xx domes are not crystal clear, that should help a bit with beam profile,

They ARE crystal clear of course, but they have a somewhat pebbled surface.

Really good news! The only downside is that I already purchased a 86 mm OP reflector for a planned XHP70 mod. Now I better should have gone SMO, I think…

yes that is what i mean, silicone of course is optically clear, but the surface of the dome is not smooth like xml for example,

I don’t think a op will do bad with this new emitter. I guess I don’t understand why it would. It doesn’t now. I guess I don’t understand how it would act any different then a xml2, or xpl in a op because the dies are a little closer together. I would think it would give the beam pattern people seek from op and give the distance people want in a smooth. Am I missing something?