Finally the XHP70.2 emerges!

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Finally the XHP70.2 emerges!

http://www.cree.com/News-and-Events/Cree-News/Press-Releases/2017/March/...

“ In addition to light output and efficacy enhancements, the XHP70.2 LED improves optical uniformity through secondary optics, enabling lighting manufacturers to deliver better lighting performance. “

Hopefully sans-hole like the XHP50.2!

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It already shows in the tiny picture of the led led that the build is the same as the XHP50.2
Great news!!

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Nice and interesting. XHP70 is a lot more popular than XHP50 in the flashlight world, so I do wonder how many existing lights will be updated with XHP70.2. First light that comes to mind that I’m interested in is the Thrunite TN36-UT…

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Can’t wait for the next generation of ThorFire lights with this beast.

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Good news!

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hIKARInoob wrote:
Nice and interesting. XHP70 is a lot more popular than XHP50 in the flashlight world, so I do wonder how many existing lights will be updated with XHP70.2. First light that comes to mind that I’m interested in is the Thrunite TN36-UT…

Thing is with existing XHP70 lights that they have heavy OP reflectors, which you may not want when using the XHP70.2. The only light that comes to mind that is instantly ready for the upgrade is the Convoy L6 that has a smooth reflector available.
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I don’t think xhp70.2 will have any problem with smo or op reflectors, first gen had issues with smo reflectors.

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On the picture you can see it still has room between the dies so there might still be a donut hole..
Hope not..

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WOOO
djozz, you better get one and do your tests asap Big Smile

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Yep some one get one to djozz stat!

Now for the fun part lets all guess max output?

9000 lumens? Big Smile

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djozz wrote:
hIKARInoob wrote:
Nice and interesting. XHP70 is a lot more popular than XHP50 in the flashlight world, so I do wonder how many existing lights will be updated with XHP70.2. First light that comes to mind that I’m interested in is the Thrunite TN36-UT…
Thing is with existing XHP70 lights that they have heavy OP reflectors, which you may not want when using the XHP70.2. The only light that comes to mind that is instantly ready for the upgrade is the Convoy L6 that has a smooth reflector available.

Ah, that’s interesting. So XHP70.2 with smooth reflector is feasible then… nice… TN36-UT with smooth reflector then! Especially because it’s a triple, so more artifacts are smoothed out compared to single emitter… So it’s interesting to see what manufacturers are going to offer…

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XM-L2 is next big thing after that.
Edit. XM-L3 Big Smile

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Thanks for the great news!
I wonder what numbers people will be getting for these when FET driven.
I’m excited to see how this does in an L6 with SMO reflector and a FET driver.
Also does anyone think that the OLight x9 will switch to using these before release?

EDIT: Here are the specs from Cree (Sorry for the poor formating)

Size 7×7 mm
Product Options 6 V
12 V
High-CRI
Maximum Drive Current 4.8 A (6 V)
2.4 A (12 V)
Maximum Power 29 W
Maximum Light Output 4292 lm
Typical Forward Voltage 5.6 V White 2100 mA (6 V) 11.2 V White 1050 mA (12 V)
Viewing Angle 125 °
Binning 85°C
ANSI (White)
2- 3- and 5-Step EasyWhite®
Thermal Resistance 0.9 °C/W
Reflow Solderable Yes – JEDEC J-STD-020C-compatible
REACH-Compliant Yes
RoHS-Compliant Yes

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thijsco19 wrote:
On the picture you can see it still has room between the dies so there might still be a donut hole.. Hope not..

not really the reason, donuts are due to improper focus, i had donuts with xml, and other single die leds. i also have few multi die led lights that have smooth, even beam with no holes or crosses. it is all about the optic,

some optic covers it pretty good, i tried led engin TIR lens, iirc 83mm diameter, i use it with xhp 50, smooth tight beam. splattered maglite reflector removes any imperfections from the beam of P7 led, thou P7’s had different material used for primary optic, some domes are clear, some a bit foggy. iirc xhp xx domes are not crystal clear, that should help a bit with beam profile,

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They ARE crystal clear of course, but they have a somewhat pebbled surface.

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Really good news! The only downside is that I already purchased a 86 mm OP reflector for a planned XHP70 mod. Now I better should have gone SMO, I think…

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Jerommel wrote:
They ARE crystal clear of course, but they have a somewhat pebbled surface.

yes that is what i mean, silicone of course is optically clear, but the surface of the dome is not smooth like xml for example,

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I don’t think a op will do bad with this new emitter. I guess I don’t understand why it would. It doesn’t now. I guess I don’t understand how it would act any different then a xml2, or xpl in a op because the dies are a little closer together. I would think it would give the beam pattern people seek from op and give the distance people want in a smooth. Am I missing something?

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Speed4goal, you are absolutely right, OP is not bad at all. But for further reach I should have bought a SMO reflector. Should have made that point clearer, sorry.

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Nah no one is wrong but basically with this new style XHP it will be more suited to using in an smo reflector then the standard XHP. There should be no donut hole with the updated version. The die should be more uniform Maybe making l throw better who knows.

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70.2? It will be just like the XP-G3, L.2 and 50.2 High Output High Heat No throw! These emitters from my experience are not that great in flashlights, well not for my purposes any way, I like a big beam, with down range grunt, not really a fan of just out put, flood with out throw. Did not like the 50.2 J4-1A in my L2 at all, crummy hot spot yellowish gold corona, and it got worse when I shaved it, now this is comparing it to my other L2 similar build and tightly shaved “old” J4-1A emitter. So I’m not bothering with the new 70.2, I’ll keep my stash of (10) or (8) now XHP70 P2-1C emitters guarded carefully!! Big SmileThumbs Up

Want more throw de-dome the old XP-G2, XP-L, or even the XHP35/50/70, (not just shaved) you can’t do that with the new emitter’s! I have tried!

I’ll live with the minor artifacts of the “old quad die” emitters and the ability to de-dome them for more “throw’ any day!! Wink

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Looking forward to the Convoy L6 Mk2 then Wink

With all this extra output, manufacturers need to concentrate on better heat sinking. I find high output lights rather pointless if they have to stepped down quickly to avoid over heating.

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stephenk wrote:

With all this extra output, manufacturers need to concentrate on better heat sinking. I find high output lights rather pointless if they have to stepped down quickly to avoid over heating.

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Hmmm…
At some point some professional markets will want to have modern LEDs that can be used in pure throwers, like search lights, don’t you think so?
I find it quite strange actually, that the developments in LEDs are apparently going in a different direction.
Matter of time maybe.

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stephenk wrote:
Looking forward to the Convoy L6 Mk2 then Wink

With all this extra output, manufacturers need to concentrate on better heat sinking. I find high output lights rather pointless if they have to stepped down quickly to avoid over heating.

Momentary turbo button.
You’ll let go when it’s too hot and it can’t accidentally be left in turbo mode.
just an idea..

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Jerommel wrote:
stephenk wrote:
Looking forward to the Convoy L6 Mk2 then Wink

With all this extra output, manufacturers need to concentrate on better heat sinking. I find high output lights rather pointless if they have to stepped down quickly to avoid over heating.

Momentary turbo button.
You’ll let go when it’s too hot and it can’t accidentally be left in turbo mode.
just an idea..

Interestingly, Led Lenser has this feature. Press and hold for 130% output. It’s barely visible compared to 100%, though I do like the idea of this feature for more powerful lights.

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Thumbs Up Looking forward to the highly efficient, higher output street lights! Facepalm

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KawiBoy1428 wrote:
Thumbs Up Looking forward to the highly efficient, higher output street lights! Facepalm

lol Big Smile

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Convoy L8 right around the corner!!!… oh geez just take my $$ now!!

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