300 Watt Halogen floor lamp replacement

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300 Watt Halogen floor lamp replacement

I am looking for a LED light bulb floor lamp to replace my 300 Watt Halogen floor lamp (5950 Lumens, 120V), which is the type that projects the light up toward the ceiling.
Any suggestion?

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Angler wrote:
Here is a nice diy http://roughage.blogspot.com/2015/10/led-torchiere-conversion.html

Instead of DIY, are there some manufacturers who design and manufacture a LED light bulb floor lamp which use one (preferred) or at most two LED light bulbs which have a total of about 5950 Lumens with 120V?
e.g. Feit C4000/5K E26 Non-Dimmable LED 38W Light Bulb has 4000 Lumens with 9 inches height, which is less bright than my Halogen light bulb.
Any floor lamp which will look nice with this 9-inch height bulb?
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A little late on this, but just thought I’d say we made an LED version of this. You can create it from scratch with the raw parts for $180. Sounds like a lot, but that’s how much a 300w equivalent LED halogen replacement would cost. People claim all sorts of stuff out there, but something over a 300w, 6000 lumen halogen lamp is more than what you can get from typical off the shelf stuff. Guess it’s possible you can get it a lot lower if you just want to set the LED on top of the shade and tie it all together. We can walk you through anything if you’re into the idea. Feel free to post in our forums Smile
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I have been on the same quest and got one of these a few days ago – https://www.fullspectrumsolutions.com/products/ultralux-45w-led-torchier... They claim 7600lm but it doesn’t seem as bright as my old 300W halogen torchiere; it’s also daylight rather than the golden glow I am used to. I am wondering whether a better solution might be to get a torchiere that accepts an E26 bulb and use it with a sunlight grow bulb, like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L88B9ZD/ref=psdc_14252951_t3_B07Q78XQT9

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Yeah, the natural color is a 5500K color temp, that’s terrible. The reason they do that is to get more brightness out of it, both because whiter LEDs can have higher lumens per watt, and also with how we perceive higher color temperatures as being brighter.

Halogen floor lamps change color temp tend to get something like maybe 1800-4000K, and they dimmed way below any floor lamp you’d buy today. I use them more in the evening and night than during the day in fact. Perfect for watching movies.

The current WindowLED floor lamp has a bulb that’s 2700K, which is what the most common warmest color fluorescent bulbs are. Since we had to choose one bulb, that was the best, at least my preference.

The grow bulb you linked – it says “sunlight white”, I can’t find the color temperature listed. My thought is that it would be the same color temperature as the one you have.

That lamp does look really interesting though, I haven’t seen one yet that goes that high. Could you do me a huge favor and take a picture of the top of the lamp, so I can see what’s in the shade?

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I dont understand wanting 6000 lumens from a single light source. Those old halogen ones were recalled so many times for lighting curtains on fire and stuff weren’t they?

I guess if you don’t have a good room layout for more even lighting across multiple sources but just seems like a quick fix.

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@middle age man
Thank you so much! I figured that’s what they’re probably doing – they’re using a bunch of LEDs separated. I’m using an LED source that’s about an inch wide, a chip-on-board (COB). It’s about as wide as a halogen filament. The problem with spreading out the LEDs is that the light ends up not being uniform. If you have each LED shining 120 degrees, the light paths don’t overlap enough, especially when you have a lamp shade. It’s possible though that I missed something. What are you seeing as far as the uniformity of the light compared to the halogen?

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I dont understand wanting 6000 lumens from a single light source. Those old halogen ones were recalled so many times for lighting curtains on fire and stuff weren’t they?

Yeah, those halogen lamps were by far the most popular lamps in history, but they were recalled because they got too hot. Now you can get that same light level with LEDs and not much heat. As for the light quality, that depends on what kind of room, but in most bedrooms and living rooms, the halogens worked better than all the overhead light sources. Many people stopped using those entirely, especially when they had them hooked to an outlet that turned on with a room light switch. That WindowLED floor lamp gives more uniform ambient light more than anything I’ve seen. Did you ever use the halogen floor lamps?

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I did use one for a few years but it has been a long time. I dont remember it being poor light quality or anything but I think that says more about how effective ceiling bouncing light is to diffuse and fill a room. I still think blasting 6000 lumens into the corner/ceiling of a room, while effective, is probably not a very efficient way to do it. I guess being one switch and having dimming makes it simple and doing it properly with multiple lights is infinitely more complex to retrofit. We have probably all tested our multiple thousand lumen flooder soda can style flashlights this way after all.

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contactcr wrote:
I did use one for a few years but it has been a long time. I dont remember it being poor light quality or anything but I think that says more about how effective ceiling bouncing light is to diffuse and fill a room. I still think blasting 6000 lumens into the corner/ceiling of a room, while effective, is probably not a very efficient way to do it. I guess being one switch and having dimming makes it simple and doing it properly with multiple lights is infinitely more complex to retrofit. We have probably all tested our multiple thousand lumen flooder soda can style flashlights this way after all.

They’re not that bad. The halogen floor lamps I use to have, used a big white metal reflector to spread the beam out to a large area on the ceiling. It wasn’t concentrated very much, and did provide good lighting to most of the room. Dimmer controls on the lamp meant it was seldom used at full output. I think I replaced the 300w bulb with a 500w, just for some extra brightness that certainly wasn’t needed.

I don’t recall why we got rid of them. Probably because we had overhead lights where we moved. I hate overhead lights. Most of my evening lighting is from tail-standing flashlights. I guess I should have kept the halogen floor lights.

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I dont really understand it but last time I went to the hardware store there is a very prominent section for new halogen bulbs.

https://commercial.gelighting.com/catalog/p/78796

It’s a typical shaped A style bulbed being marketed for “enhanced spectrum” (is there low CRI halogen?) and “energy savings” (60 watt replacement uses only 43 watts).

It’s annoying and seems backwards that they market this instead of pushing for high CRI LED.

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contactcr wrote:
I dont really understand it but last time I went to the hardware store there is a very prominent section for new halogen bulbs.

https://commercial.gelighting.com/catalog/p/78796

It’s a typical shaped A style bulbed being marketed for “enhanced spectrum” (is there low CRI halogen?) and “energy savings” (60 watt replacement uses only 43 watts).

It’s annoying and seems backwards that they market this instead of pushing for high CRI LED.

I don’t think incandescent lights is quite as wasteful as what we’re told. Yes, a lot of the light is wasted as heat. But, that heat is used to heat your room, and that is likely the room you’re sitting in. It means your furnace doesn’t have to be heating the rest of the house quite as much, and heat is directed to where it is needed most. If you heat with electricity or something equally expensive, you’re better off with incandescent lighting. If you heat with natural gas, it’s likely a bit wasteful, but probably not too much.

In the summer, yeah, it’s a total waste. But there’s not much lighting requirements during summer.

Also, incandescent lighting is more pleasant, even when compared to high CRI LEDs.

The future is definitely LED, but I’ll miss the old incandescent light.

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I modified an old, dimmable halogen upright torchiere floor lamp (aka curtain firestarter) with two E26 screw base sockets found at a hardware store and two pancake LED lights.  We use it for illumination between low, subdued-ish mood lighting for watching TV and, fairly bright general room illumination at max.

The sockets mount on the original brackets at the base of the bowl that previously held the ceramic halogen lamp contacts.  The replacement sockets have built-in brackets that appear to be purpose-made for just this application, as the length, rise and angles precisely match the existing hardware.

The pancake LED's say 3000K on the label, with no indication of CRI.  They're dimmable using the original control on the lamp shaft.  If dimmed too low, the lamps sometimes randomly flicker a bit, but at that brightness there's not much output anyway.

 

There's about 1/4 inch - 7mm space between the two lamps.

 

The pic below is dimmed about as far as possible without the LED's shutting down completely.  They're not really as bright as might appear in this photo.  When operated at max for many hours, the aluminum heat sinks become only moderately hot, not at all uncomfortable to hold tightly in one's hand

 

Note that the bowl is a handy environment to perform long-term scientific experiments in a dry, dusty environment.  That's my story. 

I'm sticking to it.

 

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Great... Carnac the Magnificent tells me I just signed up for yet another expensive hobby.

Smile! It makes others wonder what you've been up to.