FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

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I’m sure he will enjoy that $3 & spend it wisely. Big Smile on shipping.

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Cash Yes , in fact its about $3 x 3000 FW3A = $ 9000 a small fortune where I live….

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teacher wrote:
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Right. And if IRC it is far from _"last minute"_. It has been known that some countries would require a bit of additional shipping cost for quite some time.
If people do not keep up…. maybe they get surprised.
I've read pretty much every thread in this post and i didn't know about the fee so it's not a question of keeping up, and i don't see how you can judge why someone has missed information in a thread containing over 9000 posts, many of which are not relevant. Not everyone has the luxury of the time needed to read every post in a thread this size, and if you think they should then surely you have a responsibility not to force them to read through lengthy posts about materials you've dreamt the FW3A is made out of.

Off-topic is an inherent part of this forum, and one that i like, but it can take the focus away from the relevant.
Being free to ask questions and ask for help is also an inherent part of this forum which makes this a much friendlier and less intimidating place than most, and i don't see why that should be discouraged without good reason.
If Zak hadn't have asked i would have asked, but your attitude would make me think twice about asking.

As far as I am concerned Marc E…. ‘you’ read a heck of a lot into a sentence that contained the words “If & maybe”. Facepalm
I don’t understand why ‘you’ is in quotes, but i read the sentence that contained the words “If & maybe” as the final part of your response to the comments you quoted, specifically ifratos’s “Neal’s last minute $3 fee.” which the rest of your answer relates to, and took it to mean that: If people (like ifratos) do not keep up…. maybe they get surprised (as ifratos’s description suggests he was).
What did i get wrong?

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And let’s not forget “if IRC at the beginning.
I didn’t forget, i assumed that’s what you meant by ‘if IRRC’ and took the whole sentence as factual to the best of your knowledge, and a helpful answer. What did i get wrong?
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I do not know what means IRRC but in the very first post its written:
“Pricing
Target $30 including shipping, manufacturer can decide own pricing afterwards.
Maybe $36 if XP-L HI emitters are used.
Not fixed yet!”

I do not want to make big deal for $3 just noticed the difference.
I wish Neal the best and to enjoy for that extra profit.


IRRC’ should be ‘IIRC’ which means ‘If I Remember Correctly…’.

The prices you quote are target process, it means that the project was developed to try and be sold for that price, but it wasn’t a guaranteed price. AT the start of the project no-one knew how much it would actually cost to make the loght and therefore it was impossible to know how much the light would be sold for, $30 and $36 were a guess. A very educated guess but still a guess.
The final price was set depending on how much it costs to actually produce the light, and is close to the original price. I don’t know the details of where the money goes but i haven’t assumed it was Neal just adding money on.

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IIRC can also mean If I Read Correctly, though the other meaning makes more sense in the context given.

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ifratos wrote:

I do not want to make big deal for $3 just noticed the difference.
I wish Neal the best and to enjoy for that extra profit.

What extra profit? The $3 extra for you is because of shipping to Romania. Most orders do not have extra shipping fees.

Maybe you know this and are just joking around about $9000, but I can’t tell.

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Got my code and ordered a 3A. What a long road it’s been!

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Extra shipping to specific countries where there’s a high cost seems fair. I just wanted to make sure there’s not some sneaky fee being added to later orders.

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ifratos wrote:
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Right. And if IRRC if IRC it is far from “last minute”. It has been known that some countries would require a bit of additional shipping cost for quite some time. If people do not keep up…. maybe they get surprised.

I do not know what means IRRC but in the very first post its written:
“Pricing
Target $30 including shipping, manufacturer can decide own pricing afterwards.
Maybe $36 if XP-L HI emitters are used.
Not fixed yet!”

I do not want to make big deal for $3 just noticed the difference.
I wish Neal the best and to enjoy for that extra profit.

Hey… I don’t know what “IRRC” means either… it was a typo. Facepalm .. My bad.
  • IIRC = If I remember correctly
  • if IRC = If I remember correctly

And quite possibly I did not remember correctly.

I know I read somewhere months ago that shipping to certain countries was extremely high and that even ‘free shipping’ to those countries would have to be subsidized by the buyer.

I honestly thought I remembered that was mentioned & discussed in this thread. But as I stated…. maybe I remembered wrong. But I know it was discussed somewhere & I shall try to find where that was.

IIRC this was brought on by the BLF GT when Lumintop lost their rear ends on shipping quite a few of those lights.

I honestly do not think Neal is trying to pull a fast one or make “extra profit”. That kinda makes him sound like a thief, And I for one DO NOT think Neal is a thief.

I think he is trying to cover legitimate cost so it does not come out of his pocket, as was rumored to have happened with part of the BLF GT’s.

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Is it completely out of place to suggest that if the idea of paying an unexpected $3 is that upsetting, maybe just don’t order the light? I’ve dropped any number of purchases at the “pay now” screen after I finally got to see the shipping cost, and didn’t like it. Usually that’s $8-$20 “surprise” charges (one place, $25 for a small UPS package from Arizona to North Carolina, when $10 is the most that could cost). $5, I might grumble. $2-3, unless it’s a $5 item, probably not.
And, yeah, “target price” is really not something to take as more than a rough estimate.

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After all this time, I don’t think we should sweat the small-change sh*t.

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I've received a tracking number from Neal that shows "Item received" to a sorting center in China. I expected it to basically be a "label created" type of thing, and was very surprised. Last I heard, shipments wouldn't begin until May 8. Time to play the "wait and see" game.

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I also just got a tracking number. But based on experience I wouldn’t be surprised or bent out of shape if it took a month to get to me.

As an aside I don’t really know why I bought the flashlight since I don’t really have a need for it. Although irritating my adult kids is certainly a fun thing to do Silly

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Just placed my order. Thank you to those who worked on this project and made it a reality!

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Ordered 1 of my 2 in XPL 3D, hoping the SST-20 option is available soon to order my second, honestly I would almost prefer the branding on the second once so they’re easier to differentiate by sight.

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cujo255 wrote:
Ordered 1 of my 2 in XPL 3D, hoping the SST-20 option is available soon to order my second, honestly I would almost prefer the branding on the second once so they’re easier to differentiate by sight.

Good idea! I kinda liked the bunny anyway. I wonder if that option would be available to us and still use the coupon code.?

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KawiBoy1428 wrote:
I ……sorry…. Sad Thanks a bunch TK! Big Smile Thumbs Up

No worries. I was planning to explain the mechanism so people wouldn’t be expecting a second message, and by sheer coincidence you provided a perfect example. Smile

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In case it's not known here, Martin told me that Neal had a few 3D's on hand, so the shipping notices are legit, assuming all you that got a tracking # ordered 3D's.

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Roger Sully wrote:
I received my email and I’m about to pull the trigger except now I have a quandary. I realized after some more reading that I need 2 of them!

Would I be taking advantage if i ordered 2 since I only signed up for 1?

I only ordered 1 of my 2 on the list, waiting on other emitter options. Suspect others did the same.

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Me too.

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M4D M4X wrote:
people sharing codes hopefully grow purulent furuncles in the genital area…

I’m just quoting this as a reminder.

Dear reader, if you find yourself thinking about posting private group-buy codes in public, just remember… PURULENT GENITAL FURUNCLES.

Maybe karma exists, maybe it doesn’t. But if genital furuncles are involved, is it really worth finding out?

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Will we be PM when the sst-20 emitter is available to order?

No, there isn’t another round of PMs coming. The list doesn’t have data on who wants which emitter, and it’d be a little rude or spammy to send messages to everyone again. So it’s probably best to keep an eye on FW3A news, because SST-20 should be announced when it’s ready.

Last I heard, I think Neal found a FD2 tint bin. Hopefully it’ll be a little more rosy than the FB4 bin found earlier.

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I don’t really know why I bought the flashlight since I don’t really have a need for it.

Most of us don’t really need it. To merely fill a need, we could go to a local shop for whatever cheap light they have. But there are plenty of other valid reasons to get one. I’m guessing the majority of us are here because we enjoy it, not because we actually need more lights.

However, that said… I use this particular light a lot. It gets more runtime than the entire rest of my collection, unless I count the Q8 I use as a bedside candle.

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I really want to thank all who worked on this light. I know it’s not healthy but recently lights have been making me really happy more so than other things. So I hope everyone who worked on this feel the appreciation/thanks from the bottom of my heart. Sorry for being cheesy or over-dramatic.

Although few would admit it, that’s probably the reason why many people are here. Sometimes a light in the darkness is exactly what we need, even if it’s not strictly for the purposes of seeing at night. Because what we have here is a community, and it serves a lot of purposes which aren’t strictly about converting electrons into photons.

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Got my shipping notice. Kinda surprised since I’m all the way down at 1286 on the original listed I expected to be in a later batch.

I’m impressed with how quickly it all came together in the end!

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I enjoy little puzzles

Dammit TK I thought you were a nice person. I just stayed up an extra half hour trying to work that out Glasses . I reckon I’ve got the answer but I’m not about to try and type it out. I took pictures of my scribbles though. I came up with 4 scenarios.

Just four?

As a hint, there are actually 24 or 26 scenarios, depending on which version of the puzzle is attempted. But it may be possible to reduce it to 12 or 13 scenarios and still fill the requirements, which Random Dan may have done.

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I think I removed all the symmetric cases, although it still feels like I’m missing something.

I’ll run this through my test script to check it. Even if the script reports failed cases, it looks pretty close. I expect there should be at least one solution which can identify the fake but can’t determine whether it’s lighter or heavier… but at a glance, I’m not totally sure if you’ve found such a thing or not.

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ToyKeeper][quote=pinkpanda3310 wrote:
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I’ll run this through my test script to check it. Even if the script reports failed cases, it looks pretty close. I expect there should be at least one solution which can identify the fake but can’t determine whether it’s lighter or heavier… but at a glance, I’m not totally sure if you’ve found such a thing or not.

I thought the specification said we only needed to identify the coin, not necessarily determine light or heavy. The only stone which I could identify as the misfit but not classify as light or heavy would be 13 since I never weighed it. I could fix that and then I’d need to use the dummy weight.
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Third time’s the charm.

-Scale 1———Scale 2———Aside

1,2,3,5,D——-4,6,7,8,11——-9,10,12,13

1,2,4,5,6——-3,9,10,13,D——-7,8,11,12

1,3,4,8,10——2,7,9,12,D——-5,6,11,13

1 LLL
2 LLR
3 LRL
4 RLL
5 LLB
6 RLB
7 RBR
8 RBL
9 BRR
10 BRL
11 RBB
12 BBR
13 BRB

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ToyKeeper wrote:
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I enjoy little puzzles

Dammit TK I thought you were a nice person. I just stayed up an extra half hour trying to work that out Glasses . I reckon I’ve got the answer but I’m not about to try and type it out. I took pictures of my scribbles though. I came up with 4 scenarios.

Just four?

As a hint, there are actually 24 or 26 scenarios, depending on which version of the puzzle is attempted. But it may be possible to reduce it to 12 or 13 scenarios and still fill the requirements, which Random Dan may have done.


Yeh, just 4 and I was working to 12 diamonds. After seeing Dan’s first 2 answers I went back and checked mine again and of course discovered it was flawed. I was only half heartedly thinking about it then. Luckily at that point I got save… err … I mean distracted by the family Big Smile The more I look at it the more I come to the conclusion it’s out of my league Blushing
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ToyKeeper wrote:
mitsuki08 wrote:
I really want to thank all who worked on this light. I know it’s not healthy but recently lights have been making me really happy more so than other things. So I hope everyone who worked on this feel the appreciation/thanks from the bottom of my heart. Sorry for being cheesy or over-dramatic.

Although few would admit it, that’s probably the reason why many people are here. Sometimes a light in the darkness is exactly what we need, even if it’s not strictly for the purposes of seeing at night. Because what we have here is a community, and it serves a lot of purposes which aren’t strictly about converting electrons into photons.

Well put, I signed up here for GB deal but I enjoy some of the banter that goes on around here, and I’ve learned a thing or two. The collaborative nature of the projects and the friendly environment is why I keep coming back. You and all those involved who keep BLF what is right now is very much appreciated.

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I remember this puzzle from 40 years or so ago. It’s been decades since I did it but I seem to recall coming up with 2 different solutions to it. Then again I could be wrong there Silly

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4 on each side of scale. If balanced then the 4 left has the odd diamond and those 8 are neutrals. Then 3 neutrals and three of the 4 left are weighed. If balanced the one remaining is the odd one. If unbalanced (you will now know if its light or heavy)take two neutrals and one of the 3 left on each side of the scale. If balanced the remaining one is it. Unbalanced the one that is heavier or lighter is the one.

If the scale on the first weigh is unbalanced the remaining 4 are your neutrals. Then I have no clue how to find the odd one in two more weighings.

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ToyKeeper wrote:

Last I heard, I think Neal found a FD2 tint bin. Hopefully it’ll be a little more rosy than the FB4 bin found earlier.

From the chart, FD2 could be a great tint. Yay! Can’t wait to see it in person.

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