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Caleb wrote:
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Last I heard, I think Neal found a FD2 tint bin. Hopefully it’ll be a little more rosy than the FB4 bin found earlier.

From the chart, FD2 could be a great tint. Yay! Can’t wait to see it in person.

I agree, FD2 looks like it’ll be a great tint. Thumbs Up

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Just curious (not trying to ‘stir the pot’ or cause any chaos. I don’t mind another few month wait) : how many lights actually existed [in their retail packaging, ready to ship out] when the sale went live?

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TrueRMS wrote:
Just curious (not trying to ‘stir the pot’ or cause any chaos. I don’t mind another few month wait) : how many lights actually existed [in their retail packaging, ready to ship out] when the sale went live?
I’m pretty sure that ‘exact number’ is unknown to anyone here on BLF & will likely remain that way.

But this should give some idea. It was stated that Neal had ‘some’ on hand (IIRC) & LT would be delivering 200 more that would be shipped out after the Holiday. Besides that, unknown.

I’ll try & find that post about “some onhand & 200 more”. I’ll post it when I do.

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Ordered 1! Thank you.

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Seems like a small number then. Does that mean good news for the firmware bug? That it’s limited to “some on hand and 200 more”? Or is there a huge stockpile of drivers, all with the FW bug and the exact lot of lights each of ours come from won’t matter in that regard, they’ll all be effected?

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teacher wrote:
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Just curious (not trying to ‘stir the pot’ or cause any chaos. I don’t mind another few month wait) : how many lights actually existed [in their retail packaging, ready to ship out] when the sale went live?
I’m pretty sure that is unknown to anyone here on BLF & will likely remain that way.

It was stated that Neal had ‘some’ on hand (IIRC) & LT would be delivering 200 more that would be shipped out after the Holiday. Besides that, unknown.

I’ll try & find that post about “some onhand & 200 more”. I’ll post it when I do.

about 400pcs 3D version were shipped
another 300pcs 3D will ship before May 5th
and others 7A and 3D should ship from 8th.

first batch 7A 330pcs nearly sold out,so it will be better to choose the 3D version or wait for the SST20 version

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TrueRMS wrote:
Seems like a small number then. Does that mean good news for the firmware bug? That it’s limited to “some on hand and 200 more”? Or is there a huge stockpile of drivers, all with the FW bug and the exact lot of lights each of ours come from won’t matter in that regard, they’ll all be effected?

/\ I have no idea. See my above edit in my post. That is all I know.

Edit: Neal has answered the question. Thumbs Up

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@ TrueRMS

What “firmware bug” are you referring to?

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What “firmware bug” are you referring to?

This one

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What “firmware bug” are you referring to?

This one

That is not a “firmware bug” ‘to me’.
That is basically nothing… a non-issue ‘to me’.
It could even be called a ‘feature’.

Edit to add: ‘to me’

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Seems like it is an issue if TK herself pointed it out as an example of how to report a bug and stated it had been resolved in a later revision…

A big issue, no definitely not, but to claim “it’s a non issue” sounds a little stand-offish

Personally I only use the stepped mode and I often hold to start from low and step up to the level I want (this is also how I instruct people to use anduril lights I hand them) so I fully expect to run into this bug.

I’m not trying to be negative, I read that other thread before making my purchase. Just asking if the lights not yet produced will have the same exact FW on them or if they’ll be updated to the already published newer version with the bug fix for this particular issue.

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I’m not going to argue the point.

‘To me’ it is a total & complete “non-issue”… I should have said that in my post above. Sorry I didn’t, my bad. Facepalm

Whatever it is to you is fine with me. Thumbs Up

I understand it may be an issue to you. To me it is not. My apology if I seemed insensative to your plight

Edit: I fixed my post above to include ‘to me’. Beer

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I actually ran into that bug several times, since I like the stepped ramp mode.

For me it pops up often when I’m in relative darkness and don’t remember what mode I used previously. I know that the lowest moonlight mode will not be bright enough, but don’t want to take the risk of blinding myself by just switching the light on at the memorized mode. So I press and hold the switch to bring it to moonlight and immediately release and press again to go one or two steps brighter to a usable mode. But the light doesn’t react to the press.

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Caleb wrote:
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Last I heard, I think Neal found a FD2 tint bin. Hopefully it’ll be a little more rosy than the FB4 bin found earlier.

From the chart, FD2 could be a great tint. Yay! Can’t wait to see it in person.
In theory, the FD2 should be less green than the FB4?? Is that correct?
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Yes, from what I understand, a bit less green and a bit more rosy. Unfortunately, that tint chart isn’t as informative as the Cree chart we often refer to, but it is the only one I found as well. Maybe someone will point us to a better one.

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Yes, from what I understand, a bit less green and a bit more rosy. Unfortunately, that tint chart isn’t as informative as the Cree chart we often refer to, but it is the only one I found as well. Maybe someone will point us to a better one.
Thank you for the verification. Thumbs Up . Yeah… that is the only chart I could find. And I certainly agree… the CREE Chart is much better to me too.

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Are you tempted to get one of the SST models in a nicer tint? I think I am, but also maybe the XPL 7A. Of course we have both already ordered our 3D’s.

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I think I will. And then if it turns out ‘ugly bile green’ like that Convoy S2+ I got (to see what the SST 20 craze was all about), I will change them out to something I like. Giving the SST 20’s to someone who likes green. Beer

I too, after TK & you (I think it was you) brought up that 7A would make for a great candle mode; am thinking seriously about getting a 7A to be a designated candle. Wink

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I can reproduce this little bug on my ROT66 and D18, but if nobody had pointed it out, I would probably have never noticed it.

maukka wrote:
I actually ran into that bug several times, since I like the stepped ramp mode. For me it pops up often when I'm in relative darkness and don't remember what mode I used previously. I know that the lowest moonlight mode will not be bright enough, but don't want to take the risk of blinding myself by just switching the light on at the memorized mode. So I press and hold the switch to bring it to moonlight and immediately release and press again to go one or two steps brighter to a usable mode. But the light doesn't react to the press.

I would probably have never run into the bug, because in the scenario you are describing I would simply press and hold until the desired brightness level is reached. There is no need to do two press and holds with a short pause in between, because Andúril will start in the lowest mode, but then immediately start to ramp up if you continue to hold the button down.

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That’s absolutely right! I think it’s mostly a reflex for me to let go off the button when the light turns on and blinks. I will try to use your method of holding the switch down from now on Smile

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I wonder if the bug was reported to Neal/Lumintop and fixed in a timely enough manner to correct lights in the next batch. Or, were a ton of drivers already loaded and what’s done is done? Personally, I’ve never used a ramped light before, and would probably be a smooth ramp kinda guy anyway, so it may not affect me. I’m just happy to finally get a chance to hold an FW3A and impress my friends!

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Tom E wrote:

In case it’s not known here, Martin told me that Neal had a few 3D’s on hand, so the shipping notices are legit, assuming all you that got a tracking # ordered 3D’s.


FB is good for something, sometimes… smile

Have we somewhere pictures from a beamshot comparison of the to HI tints side by side?

( sorry I haven’t read the rest of the posts)

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teacher][quote=Caleb][quote=ToyKeeper wrote:

Last I heard, I think Neal found a FD2 tint bin.


Comparing the location with the CREE ANSI chart, looks like FD2 falls very close to 5D2. Not sure which 5D Hank is using in the Emisars, but I love it. Looking forward to seeing the SST color.

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Thanks FW3A team to design and build this amazing flashlight!
Thanks Neal for the super quick shipping arrangement and i made a new friend Smile .


PS: I live in China which just like Neal, that’s why i got the package that fast.


Tried my best to get some beamshot








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stehk, thanks for posting! What tint did you go with? Looking forward to beamshots.

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stehk wrote:
Thanks FW3A team to design and build this amazing flashlight! Thanks Neal for the super quick shipping arrangement and i made a new friend Smile .

PS: I live in China which just like Neal, that’s why i got the package that fast.

Sorry that my new VTC6 still charging, no beam shot yet.

Looking forward to photos and initial impressions!

Edit: I see that photos were posted; just blocked on my work computer. Looks great!

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Congrats to the first commercial recipient of this light! Proves that all of this actually exists Wink

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I got the 3D tint in this moment. Hopefully the high CRI SST20 can launch soon.

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I think Neal could not ship mine because I didn’t enter a phone number Facepalm

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ToyKeeper wrote:
M4D M4X wrote:
people sharing codes hopefully grow purulent furuncles in the genital area...
I'm just quoting this as a reminder. Dear reader, if you find yourself thinking about posting private group-buy codes in public, just remember... PURULENT GENITAL FURUNCLES

Not a good google images search, BTW. I only searched for the non-genital version "purulent furuncles" and it wasn't good. About what I expected, though, not knowing what either word actually meant ahead of time.

Tom E wrote:
In case it's not known here, Martin told me that Neal had a few 3D's on hand, so the shipping notices are legit, assuming all you that got a tracking # ordered 3D's.

FB is good for something, sometimes... smile

That is what I ordered! We'll see how this compares to my typical 12-15 day China ship times. 

ToyKeeper wrote:
Last I heard, I think Neal found a FD2 tint bin. Hopefully it'll be a little more rosy than the FB4 bin found earlier.

I heard a rumor (okay, I read something elsewhere on BLF) that AstroLux may have bought a bunch of "good bin" SST-20s. Wonder if that's making things difficult.

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I don't really know why I bought the flashlight since I don't really have a need for it.
Most of us don't really need it. To merely fill a need, we could go to a local shop for whatever cheap light they have. But there are plenty of other valid reasons to get one. I'm guessing the majority of us are here because we enjoy it, not because we actually need more lights. However, that said... I use this particular light a lot. It gets more runtime than the entire rest of my collection, unless I count the Q8 I use as a bedside candle.
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I really want to thank all who worked on this light. I know it's not healthy but recently lights have been making me really happy more so than other things. So I hope everyone who worked on this feel the appreciation/thanks from the bottom of my heart. Sorry for being cheesy or over-dramatic.
Although few would admit it, that's probably the reason why many people are here. Sometimes a light in the darkness is exactly what we need, even if it's not strictly for the purposes of seeing at night. Because what we have here is a community, and it serves a lot of purposes which aren't strictly about converting electrons into photons.

Flashlights are definitely a hobby for me. They give me something to do, to plan, to tinker with in my brain throughout the day. It is healthy to have one or more hobbies, in moderation of course. But I'm proud of that, because I have too many friends and acquaintances with no real hobbies besides watching TV or playing video games.

I hope the FW3A ends up being a strong player in my EDC rotation, and I don't think I'll notice the firmware bug (since it seems I'm getting a first batch light). If it really bothers me, maybe it will be the push I need to start flashing firmware!

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