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Curious as to why beacon is not in the strobe modes.

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Curious as to why beacon is not in the strobe modes.

TBH, no particular reason. Things just kinda grew that way. The strobe group was originally just the two strobes. And the blinky group was just battcheck and tempcheck. Beacon seemed like more of a blinky than a strobe, so it went in the blinky group. Generally if I want a light to blink forever like a beacon, I find battcheck is sufficient… but people also seemed to want a dedicated beacon mode, so I put one after tempcheck.

Things could perhaps be moved around a bit now that there are more modes. Do people often want instant access to beacon mode? I got the impression it was something which isn’t used often, so it may be best left in the blinky group where it’s not in the way.

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Curious as to why beacon is not in the strobe modes.

TBH, no particular reason. Things just kinda grew that way. The strobe group was originally just the two strobes. And the blinky group was just battcheck and tempcheck. Beacon seemed like more of a blinky than a strobe, so it went in the blinky group. Generally if I want a light to blink forever like a beacon, I find battcheck is sufficient… but people also seemed to want a dedicated beacon mode, so I put one after tempcheck.

Things could perhaps be moved around a bit now that there are more modes. Do people often want instant access to beacon mode? I got the impression it was something which isn’t used often, so it may be best left in the blinky group where it’s not in the way.


Not used often. I think it’s fine where it is. Thanks!
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Things could perhaps be moved around a bit now that there are more modes. Do people often want instant access to beacon mode? I got the impression it was something which isn’t used often,

I can’t really see needing instant access. Most situations I could see using beacon, you’d probably have time to be deliberate about it.

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Melez wrote:
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Things could perhaps be moved around a bit now that there are more modes. Do people often want instant access to beacon mode? I got the impression it was something which isn’t used often,
I can’t really see needing instant access. Most situations I could see using beacon, you’d probably have time to be deliberate about it.
+1 . I think most people neither desire or need instant access to Beacon Mode.

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Things could perhaps be moved around a bit now that there are more modes. Do people often want instant access to beacon mode? I got the impression it was something which isn’t used often,
I can’t really see needing instant access. Most situations I could see using beacon, you’d probably have time to be deliberate about it.
+1 . I think most people neither desire or need instant access to Beacon Mode.
I’ve never had a need for beacon or strobe and would be happy to never have them in any of my lights; perhaps freeing up space for something more useful Silly
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I love the strobe on Anduril. Very effective. I just wish it was accessible from on.

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I love the strobe on Anduril. Very effective. I just wish it was accessible from on.
Just curious, what real world situations do you actually use it for on a regular basis?

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I love the strobe on Anduril. Very effective. I just wish it was accessible from on.
Just curious, what real world situations do you actually use it for on a regular basis?

I live in South Africa. Come and take a walk in our neighborhoods at night. I’ve used tactical strobes twice in serious situations. If it wasn’t for that I would have been mugged, or even stabbed. If you own a gun for self defense, why keep it locked in a safe? Anyway, not gonna get into politics.

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I love the strobe on Anduril. Very effective. I just wish it was accessible from on.
Just curious, what real world situations do you actually use it for on a regular basis?
I live in South Africa. Come and take a walk in our neighborhoods at night. I’ve used tactical strobes twice in serious situations. If it wasn’t for that I would have been mugged, or even stabbed. If you own a gun for self defense, why keep it locked in a safe? Anyway, not gonna get into politics.
Shocked Shocked Shocked . Facepalm … My gosh, I was just asking. I did not mean to upset you.
I will pass on coming there to take a stroll however. There are places around here I don't go for an evening stroll either.

But I understand that completely… who wouldn’t.

I do not keep all my guns locked in my safe either. Wink

No need for politics.. not sure what you even mean by that???

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Lol! I just said I’m not gonna get into politics. I just wanted to emphasize how important quick access to a proper strobe mode is. And the Anduril strobe is fantastic. The way you can adjust the frequency is awesome and I fined tuned it on some of my friends… Really disorienting. Now it just needs a quick access from on Wink

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I use beacon mode to help induce sleep, the adjustable brightness and speed are wonderfully useful for me. I can see a benefit in having it instantly accessible to avoid the brighter modes first but not enough to warrant a code revision, i’m happy with it where it is, i’m happy that it exists at all!

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+1 . I think most people neither desire or need instant access to Beacon Mode.
What’s that based on?
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I use beacon mode to help induce sleep, the adjustable brightness and speed are wonderfully useful for me. I can see a benefit in having it instantly accessible to avoid the brighter modes first but not enough to warrant a code revision, i’m happy with it where it is, i’m happy that it exists at all!

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+1 . I think most people neither desire or need instant access to Beacon Mode.
What’s that based on?
It is based on what I said “+1” to (included below)…..
……..and what I think (just an opinion) most people actually use ‘Beacon Mode’ for. Thumbs Up

Nothing more… nothing less. Not scientific by any stretch. Beer

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Things could perhaps be moved around a bit now that there are more modes. Do people often want instant access to beacon mode? I got the impression it was something which isn’t used often,
I can’t really see needing instant access. Most situations I could see using beacon, you’d probably have time to be deliberate about it.
+1 . I think most people neither desire or need instant access to Beacon Mode.

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Thank you for your answer Smile

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Lol! I just said I’m not gonna get into politics. I just wanted to emphasize how important quick access to a proper strobe mode is. And the Anduril strobe is fantastic. The way you can adjust the frequency is awesome and I fined tuned it on some of my friends… Really disorienting. Now it just needs a quick access from on Wink
Gotcha’…. Thumbs Up . Beer

You & I both wrote Strobe Mode… but I was actually thinking “Beacon Mode” as I misread what you wrote & miswrote what I asked. Facepalm

I was just curious about frequency of real world use of BEACON Mode…. such as the example Marc E gave.

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Thank you for your answer Smile
My pleasure. Beer

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Thanks TK. No, I do not require instant access to beacon, just seemed the logical place to put it in with the other strobe modes. We all compartmentalize differently. I do like watching lightening mode for some reason. Very cool.

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Welcome "back" Lick! Where'd you go??

 

I had actually been pretty happy with a 18350 S2 with 219B. This is about the same size and it has a better firmware, I have been very excited for this flashlight for years! I know that the D4 had some firmware issues before and I was looking forward to getting an LH651 flashlight that didn't need to be modded.

 

I also use mostly AAA lights since its all I need but the small size and the firmware of this light excited me!

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I had actually been pretty happy with a 18350 S2 with 219B. This is about the same size …

… and it also doesn’t hurt that it has 3X as much battery capacity. Wink

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I’ve used beacon more than I have strobe. I’m unconvinced of the incapacitating power of strobe, having among other things read text from my computer screen in a darkened room with my FW3A on tactical strobe pointed at my face from an arm’s length, and stared at a group of these things for entertainment. Yes, you read that spec sheet right. 180,000 lumens and 101 kcd from 228 XP-Ls.

A bright light to the face does have some deterrent effect, but I don’t think much is gained from it flashing (yes I’ve read the Dutch police study that says strobe is useful, but I suspect the result wouldn’t be reliably replicated).

I’ve used beacon in practical situations a couple times, to keep from being hit on the side of the road. Instant access wasn’t a big deal, and momentary would not have been useful at all. A magnet and a right-angle form factor were useful, neither of which describe the FW3A.

Anyway, momentary candle mode is the best thing ever, and now that I have it on my FW3A, I will never again fear attack by moths.

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First time BLF custom group buy noob here.

I committed to one light somewhere around the 1,100's on the list just 'cause it sounded interesting.  Then , not knowing anything about the process, sat back & watched as something akin to mating elephants took place; much noise, trumpeting and ground-shaking stomping, with everything happening at a very high level.  Fascinating!  The analogy breaks down here though, because it took more than ~eighteen months to get results tongue-out.

Shortly after payment my new FW3A light tool arrived, a delightful piece of industrial art barely larger than my trusty, pocketworn TG06S, but so much more useful and, entertaining to boot.  Raided my C8F for the only flat top cell I own(d) to start learning the UI.  (A couple of 35E's and MJ1's are on the way.)

What a great light!  From my relatively inexperienced perspective I have absolutely no complaints.

I offer my most sincere thanks to everyone who invested their time & resources in making this fine light become a reality.

I'd also like to thank those who have posted about the finer points of use, maintenance & troubleshooting.

Well done, everyone!  Thank You!

Now, for just one question:

Are there any leftovers; unclaimed lights from the list where people never followed through with payment?  If so, how would one go about purchasing same at the GB price?  Inquiring minds want to know...

 

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EDIT: Corrected the gestation period of pachyderms.

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You’re not limited to buying the number you signed up for. If you want more, buy more.

If you want to recommend the FW3A publicly and not disclose the group buy discount code, PhotonPhreaks has them at a good price.

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I had a snafu with mine earlier tonight. I was playing with it outside, I took it out of my pocket, and clicked 4 times to unlock it. It started spazzing out and strobing and clicking it wouldn’t turn it off. I unscrewed the head and put it back together and it seemed fine.

I was playing with again later and noticed an extra blink at the top of the ramp, and it was getting hot.

So at this point I realized what I’d done, earlier when it was blinking and strobing it was just in ramp config mode. Apparently I thought I’d locked it out but didn’t, so I must have turned it on coming out of my pocket, then clicked it 4 times and it entered ramp config mode. All my random clicking trying to turn it off changed the ramp ceiling setting to almost all the way up.

After I figured out that I am in fact an idiot, I got the manual and set everything back to how it’s supposed to be.

Light is fine, just an ID10T error.

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Yep, that happened to me too.
Configuration should be harder to access IMO. Once the light is set up how often are you going to change it..

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Ha ha. I also stumbled into ramping config mode and freaked out a bit at first. Wasn’t until I found the “modded cheat sheet” that I realized what I had done.

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slmjim wrote:
The analogy breaks down here though, because it took more than nine months to get results
Actually, your analogy isn’t that far off.

Elephants have the longest gestation period of any mammal.

Some species of elephant give birth almost two years after mating. Party

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Probably a bit of a surprise after all that time Big Smile

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I’m not sure what the deal is with 219C appearing in the store.

Neal mentioned it a few weeks ago, asking if it would be okay because Lumintop already had some available. I told him it would disappoint people and he should stick to what we promised everyone. That’s the last I heard about it.


Has anyone heard from Neal recently? Between this post from TK and several of us not receiving any responses to inquiries about outstanding orders, I hope he’s alright. I’m tempted to order a 219C version, but definitely not until he makes good on my original order (China Post returned it to him; not necessarily his fault, but he said he’d look into it 10 days ago and nothing since then). Anyone know if he’s OK?

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