FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

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KevinZA1988 wrote:
That looks amazing… Don’t know what oils your hands are giving off but mine hasn’t developed patina that fast.

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Joshk wrote:
KevinZA1988 wrote:
That looks amazing… Don’t know what oils your hands are giving off but mine hasn’t developed patina that fast.

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@ KevinZA, that sounds reasonable. Are you using the same optic?

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@ KevinZA, that sounds reasonable. Are you using the same optic?

Yeah, I even swapped optics to confirm that the optics are the same. Lumen junkies will complain about the SST-20’s.

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Yep. Guilty as charged. It is definitely not as bright. I’m going to try different optics to see what works best.

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KevinZA1988 wrote:
Yeah, I even swapped optics to confirm that the optics are the same. Lumen junkies will complain about the SST-20’s.

But the 4000k SST20 looks amazing outside in the dark walking around either a veggie garden or flower bed. The colors just pop and I can give up a few lumens for that. The heat on the other hand is insane with the SST20’s.

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mattlward wrote:
KevinZA1988 wrote:
Yeah, I even swapped optics to confirm that the optics are the same. Lumen junkies will complain about the SST-20’s.

But the 4000k SST20 looks amazing outside in the dark walking around either a veggie garden or flower bed. The colors just pop and I can give up a few lumens for that. The heat on the other hand is insane with the SST20’s.

Yeah, but the 4000K is not what I would call warm… Neutral, yes. I’m waiting for the funky colored FW3A lights to be released then I’ll order that emitter combo.

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I do like the tint a lot. Hotter, and less bright though, not so much.

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Igor wrote:
I have problems with my 7A, distinguishing reds, pinks and violets with low power modes.

You may be noticing the Purkinje effect, combined with the relatively low output of red from the 80CRI emitter.

I haven’t done any rigorous testing, but I tend to assume high CRI should be particularly helpful for maintaining color discrimination in the red range as intensity is decreased, although even that would not completely counter the Purkinje effect.

Helios azimuth wrote:
After holding back, it is time to chime in about the 7A. I like warm tints, but this thing is totally ORANGE

Do you have other 3000K lights you’re comparing it to?

And is this when it’s fully dark? I’ve got a 3000K XM-L2 light that seems comparatively very orange if I’m using it around what is often called the “blue hour,” which occurs after sunset but before it is fully dark.

I don’t like such warm color temperatures for that kind of situation. On the other hand, indoors, where my last light exposure was likely a 2700-3000K bulb, or around a campfire after it’s totally dark, 3000K is great.

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My SST-20 4000K came today. The emitters are great but the new switch is terrible compared to the first run one. Metal-on-metal squeaky and not nearly as solid feeling Sad

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treellama wrote:
My SST-20 4000K came today. The emitters are great but the new switch is terrible compared to the first run one. Metal-on-metal squeaky and not nearly as solid feeling Sad

hm that sounds bad? i have same on its way, i thought the switch is better compared to the first run ?

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treellama wrote:
My SST-20 4000K came today. The emitters are great but the new switch is terrible compared to the first run one. Metal-on-metal squeaky and not nearly as solid feeling Sad

hm that sounds bad? i have same on its way, i thought the switch is better compared to the first run ?

Mine does not squeak at all. Solid click sound. The only way I can get a metal on metal sound is by spinning the switch, which you would expect that sound at that point.

Really happy with mine except I wish it didn’t activate so easily on the edge. I am currently doing the switch lockout with the head. It’s really not bad doing it that way since the threads are so smooth it turns like butter with one hand. Plus it keeps your memory since you keep power to the driver. I am considering changing the internal switch like some have, I just don’t know what they used. I am considering trying some foam too since some have said that worked well.

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mortuus wrote:
treellama wrote:
My SST-20 4000K came today. The emitters are great but the new switch is terrible compared to the first run one. Metal-on-metal squeaky and not nearly as solid feeling Sad

Hmmm, that sounds bad? I have same on it’s way, I thought the switch is better compared to the first run?


The first run switches were great. You could not make it any better.

Your probably thinking of the 2nd run, not the 1st.

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treellama wrote:
My SST-20 4000K came today. The emitters are great but the new switch is terrible compared to the first run one. Metal-on-metal squeaky and not nearly as solid feeling Sad

I have 5 SST-20 4000K’s – no squeak and more solid feel than the first run light that I received. Maybe you just got a dud?

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shirnask wrote:
treellama wrote:
My SST-20 4000K came today. The emitters are great but the new switch is terrible compared to the first run one. Metal-on-metal squeaky and not nearly as solid feeling Sad

I have 5 SST-20 4000K’s – no squeak and more solid feel than the first run light that I received. Maybe you just got a dud?

This gives me some hope for the SST-20’s that should be arriving today. Thanks.

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Igor wrote:
I wanted a FW3A, but had no 4000 or 4500k options, and 5000k is too cold for me. So I had to choose 3300k, for a lack of option.

Same, I picked the 7A 3300k because 5000k seemed way too cool. 7A is OK (too warm but tolerable) – I really want LH351D 4k 90CRI emitters though. MTN is currently out of stock of the bare emitters so I’ll keep an eye out.

The SST-20 temp is good at 4k, and has high CRI but they give off a lot of heat and are quite a bit lower brightness on turbo, approx 1700 lumens vs 3000 lumens for the XP-L 3A per a user earlier the thread, data here. I’m not sure how the LH351D compares.

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Bumping up here, after some time AFK. So, it seems SST-20 are a real thing? Smile

Can someone can help me find the post stating pricing, variants, codes, whatever info on them?

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fneuf wrote:

Bumping up here, after some time AFK. So, it seems SST-20 are a real thing? Smile


Can someone can help me find the post stating pricing, variants, codes, whatever info on them?

I got my SST-20 from Neal: FW3A
Make sure to use the 20% off code at the top of the page. Also I would recommend paying the little extra for the better shipping unless you don’t mind waiting possibly weeks. I got a green glow gasket too which Neal put on for me, it’s a great addition.

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Those glow gaskets are pretty great. Smile

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I just received my 3 SST-20 FW3A’s! The switches all feel great! Everything looks perfect. Now to find some batteries.

BTW, these shipped on 7/16, and I received them today, 7/18, in NC.

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trakcon wrote:
I just received my 3 SST-20 FW3A’s! The switches all feel great! Everything looks perfect. Now to find some batteries.

BTW, these shipped on 7/16, and I received them today, 7/18, in NC.

Did you get expedited shipping?? That’s really fast, mine shipped on 7/17 and I’m in ATL.

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BOO5TED wrote:
trakcon wrote:
I just received my 3 SST-20 FW3A’s! The switches all feel great! Everything looks perfect. Now to find some batteries.

BTW, these shipped on 7/16, and I received them today, 7/18, in NC.

Did you get expedited shipping?? That’s really fast, mine shipped on 7/17 and I’m in ATL.

I didn’t. It arrived surprisingly fast.

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trakcon wrote:
BOO5TED wrote:
trakcon wrote:
I just received my 3 SST-20 FW3A’s! The switches all feel great! Everything looks perfect. Now to find some batteries.

BTW, these shipped on 7/16, and I received them today, 7/18, in NC.

Did you get expedited shipping?? That’s really fast, mine shipped on 7/17 and I’m in ATL.

I didn’t. It arrived surprisingly fast.

Well damn, I got regular shipping too. Hopefully the next few days it shows up.

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Klayking wrote:
Those glow gaskets are pretty great. Smile

I saw those on Neal’s site but i’m unsure how they fit…
Do you need to file the optic of something? Is it just a drop-in?
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Nope, it just goes under the optics.

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shirnask wrote:
I have 5 SST-20 4000K’s – no squeak and more solid feel than the first run light that I received. Maybe you just got a dud?

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I have 3 FW3As and 1 FW3C. None of them have squeaky buttons. However, the switches don’t all feel the same:

  • FW3A #1: Requires firmer button press than any of the other lights and does not have a loud click. (click is still noticeable, just not loud).
  • FW3A #2: Loud clicking sound when button is pressed. Feels good to press, but is not quiet.
  • FW3A #3: First run SST-20 version. Too much material on bottom of tailcap above the switch. Result is switch button isn’t able to fully extend. Soft click with minimal pressure needed to depress the button. I found this unacceptable as risk of accidental activation was too great so ended up modding the switch.
  • FW3C: Feels like #2, but not quite as loud.

I found all of the switches to be quite acceptable as-is, except for #3.

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I opened it up, removed a stray piece of plastic from the tail threads(!), recentered the rubber part under the metal switch, and tightened it back up very tight. Seems a bit better now, not as good as first run, but acceptable. I was also able to get the first run switch to metal squeak by pressing on the edge of it.

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Got a shipping notice on the 15th. Tracking shows label made , awaiting item in California.
So who knows? Could be anywhere.

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I tried a UCL 22.61mm x 1.90mm lens on my FW3A, and was disappointed to find that it created a slight gap between the bezel and the rest of the head. With the original lens, the fit is so good that the head appears as one piece.

Maybe I’ll try the sapphire lens that Neal sells or TK’s method of polishing the coating off of the original.

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