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OK…. that rules out the lamp base then. Thumbs Up

Had to be the Q8 bezel & the bad luck that the FW3A just happened to hit it just right. Sad

It might hit it again a hundred times & nothing happen.

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fazalmajid wrote:
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That doesn’t look the color of exposed aluminum. Maybe the wood finish transferred to the rough texture of the anodized aluminum? Does a scrubbing sponge diminish it?

That’s just a reflection on the aluminum (probably the FW3A box). It’s hard to shoot something that reflective.

Ah yep, I blame the Q8 bezel now too.

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I know this is silly, but I actually enjoy things more once they get that first ding. Flashlights, knives, even watches, I am too worried about them when they are new. Once they get that first scar, I use them and enjoy them more.

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I know this is silly, but I actually enjoy things more once they get that first ding. Flashlights, knives, even watches, I am too worried about them when they are new. Once they get that first scar, I use them and enjoy them more.

Right, they’re tools, not jewelry (unlike Muyshondt flashlights that are jewelry but unfair for purpose as tools).

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My FW3A with the SST 20’s arrived today. These are my ‘first’ impressions…

  • Very nice tint.
  • Fit & finish is excellent.
  • One piece optic is OK, not bad at all; but I prefer the Carclo w/ glass lens.
  • Tail cap is screwed on super tight!! Shocked
  • Switch is silent (no rubbing or grinding noise) but super easy to activate. Personally I like the first ones much better. Not sure why they changed this. Shocked
  • Less lumen output than XP-L HI (a known spec)
  • More heat than XP-L HI (also a known spec)
  • Better CRI than XP-L HI (if that makes a difference to someone). It does not to me. In this light, I would rather have the XP-L HI with a nice tint than the SST-20 with a nice tint, for the reasons listed above.
    Glad I got the SST-20 since it has/had the nice tint & the XP-L HI 3D tints in mine basically suck. Big Smile

Those are my ‘first impressions’. More later if anything else becomes apparent.

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teacher wrote:
My FW3A with the SST 20's arrived today. These are my _'first'_ impressions... * Very nice tint. * Fit & finish is excellent. * One piece optic is OK, not bad at all; but I prefer the Carclo w/ glass lens. * Tail cap is screwed on super tight!! Shocked * Switch is silent _(no rubbing or grinding noise)_ but +super easy+ to activate. Personally I like the first ones much better. Not sure why they changed this. Shocked * Less lumen output than XP-L HI _(a known spec)_ * More heat than XP-L HI _(also a known spec)_ * Better CRI than XP-L HI _(if that makes a difference to someone)_. It does not to me. In this light, I would rather have the XP-L HI with a nice tint than the SST-20 with a nice tint, for the reasons listed above. Glad I got the SST-20 since it has/had the nice tint & the XP-L HI 3D tints in mine basically suck. Big Smile Those are my _'first impressions'_. More later if anything else becomes apparent.
I think some people complained about the switch being to easily accidentally activated so lumenstop redesigned  it to make it even worse LOL
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For me, I don’t notice the change in activation much but it feels a lot better.  I love the SST20. I don’t have a xpl-hi version. Everybody says it’s hotter. Does that mean you can hold the xpl an extra 10 seconds on turbo or at the top of the ramp?  What are we talking about here in real terms?

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For me, I don’t notice the change in activation much but it feels a lot better.  I love the SST20. I don’t have a xpl-hi version. Everybody says it’s hotter. Does that mean you can hold the xpl an extra 10 seconds on turbo or at the top of the ramp?  What are we talking about here in real terms?


The one I had ,10 seconds would’ve been a luxury.
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I think some people complained about the switch being to easily accidentally activated so lumenstop resigned it to make it even worse LOL
Comparing my first units & this one…. that is exactly what happened Nev. Facepalm . Big Smile

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Maybe the design requires higher precision that is possible at this price point? I don’t know, just wondering. On a related note, who creates the blueprint files for projects like this?

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Nev, there’s no ugly green tint from your example sst20 ?

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I had XPLHI , after a short time it did develop a blue tinge to it, but that was after one led went bad & started to smoke , but before that it was ok for a warmish or neutral or whatever just under 5000k is ,with no green more of a yellowy white.
Another new colour I’ve invented Big Smile

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Nev wrote:
I had XPLHI , after a short time it did develop a blue tinge to it, but that was after one led went bad & started to smoke , but before that it was ok for a warmish or neutral or whatever just under 5000k is ,with no green more of a yellowy white.
Another new colour I’ve invented Big Smile
Never heard of that happening before. XPL-HI is normally extremely tolerant of hi current.
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LOL.. too bad they aren’t using XPL HI V4 3C 5000k yet.. I hear it’s a nice rose tint, no yellow

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I had XPLHI , after a short time it did develop a blue tinge to it, but that was after one led went bad & started to smoke , but before that it was ok for a warmish or neutral or whatever just under 5000k is ,with no green more of a yellowy white.
Another new colour I’ve invented Big Smile
Never heard of that happening before. XPL-HI is normally extremely tolerant of hi current.

It wasn’t the led that was smoking (it was just discoloured) the smoking was from the negative black wire which got hot enough to melt the solder & disconected itself , the smoke was coming from the plastic insulation on that wire.
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Probably could take q-tip wipe off residue?
Still.. bet when u saw smoke made ya pucker a little lol

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I had XPLHI , after a short time it did develop a blue tinge to it, but that was after one led went bad & started to smoke , but before that it was ok for a warmish or neutral or whatever just under 5000k is ,with no green more of a yellowy white. Another new colour I’ve invented Big Smile
Never heard of that happening before. XPL-HI is normally extremely tolerant of hi current.
It wasn’t the led that was smoking (it was just discoloured) the smoking was from the negative black wire which got hot enough to melt the solder & disconected itself , the smoke was coming from the plastic insulation on that wire.

That shouldn’t have happened either. I wonder if maybe the star needs new thermal compound underneath.

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Probably could take q-tip wipe off residue?
Still.. bet when u saw smoke made ya pucker a little lol

I was taking a video to show neal the smoking & as luck would have it that’s when it melted the solder & disconnected itself ,I could smell it was hot just like a D4 or any other high power light gets , but this was a burning smell & that’s what made me take the bezel off to see where it was coming from.
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I had XPLHI , after a short time it did develop a blue tinge to it, but that was after one led went bad & started to smoke , but before that it was ok for a warmish or neutral or whatever just under 5000k is ,with no green more of a yellowy white. Another new colour I’ve invented Big Smile
Never heard of that happening before. XPL-HI is normally extremely tolerant of hi current.
It wasn’t the led that was smoking (it was just discoloured) the smoking was from the negative black wire which got hot enough to melt the solder & disconected itself , the smoke was coming from the plastic insulation on that wire.

That shouldn’t have happened either. I wonder if maybe the star needs new thermal compound underneath.


It had some on but only a very thin layer. I’m not a modder so I can’t say if it was enough.
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Firelight2 wrote:
Nev wrote:
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Nev wrote:
I had XPLHI , after a short time it did develop a blue tinge to it, but that was after one led went bad & started to smoke , but before that it was ok for a warmish or neutral or whatever just under 5000k is ,with no green more of a yellowy white. Another new colour I’ve invented Big Smile
Never heard of that happening before. XPL-HI is normally extremely tolerant of hi current.
It wasn’t the led that was smoking (it was just discoloured) the smoking was from the negative black wire which got hot enough to melt the solder & disconected itself , the smoke was coming from the plastic insulation on that wire.

That shouldn’t have happened either. I wonder if maybe the star needs new thermal compound underneath.


He took the bezel off so the star was not actually pressed into the head. The star got way too hot with no way to transfer the heat.
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Maybe the design requires higher precision that is possible at this price point? I don’t know, just wondering. On a related note, who creates the blueprint files for projects like this?

Lumintop does all the blueprints.
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Nev wrote:
I had XPLHI , after a short time it did develop a blue tinge to it, but that was after one led went bad & started to smoke , but before that it was ok for a warmish or neutral or whatever just under 5000k is ,with no green more of a yellowy white. Another new colour I’ve invented Big Smile
Never heard of that happening before. XPL-HI is normally extremely tolerant of hi current.
It wasn’t the led that was smoking (it was just discoloured) the smoking was from the negative black wire which got hot enough to melt the solder & disconected itself , the smoke was coming from the plastic insulation on that wire.

That shouldn’t have happened either. I wonder if maybe the star needs new thermal compound underneath.


He took the bezel off so the star was not actually pressed into the head. The star got way too hot with no way to transfer the heat.
That would do it. The star on the FW3A isn’t screwed down. If you ran it for more than a few seconds on turbo without the bezel on, the star could very easily overheat.
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Nev wrote:
I had XPLHI , after a short time it did develop a blue tinge to it, but that was after one led went bad & started to smoke , but before that it was ok for a warmish or neutral or whatever just under 5000k is ,with no green more of a yellowy white. Another new colour I’ve invented Big Smile
Never heard of that happening before. XPL-HI is normally extremely tolerant of hi current.
It wasn’t the led that was smoking (it was just discoloured) the smoking was from the negative black wire which got hot enough to melt the solder & disconected itself , the smoke was coming from the plastic insulation on that wire.

That shouldn’t have happened either. I wonder if maybe the star needs new thermal compound underneath.


He took the bezel off so the star was not actually pressed into the head. The star got way too hot with no way to transfer the heat.

Yes he did but it was burning & or smoking before the bezel was taken off , I could smell burning so I took the bezel ,optic ,lens off to see where it was coming from.
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more of a yellowy white.
Another new colour I’ve invented Big Smile
Your on a roll mate…. keep it up!! Beer

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Nev wrote:
JasonWW wrote:
Firelight2 wrote:
Nev wrote:
Firelight2 wrote:
Nev wrote:
I had XPLHI , after a short time it did develop a blue tinge to it, but that was after one led went bad & started to smoke , but before that it was ok for a warmish or neutral or whatever just under 5000k is ,with no green more of a yellowy white. Another new colour I’ve invented Big Smile
Never heard of that happening before. XPL-HI is normally extremely tolerant of hi current.
It wasn’t the led that was smoking (it was just discoloured) the smoking was from the negative black wire which got hot enough to melt the solder & disconected itself , the smoke was coming from the plastic insulation on that wire.

That shouldn’t have happened either. I wonder if maybe the star needs new thermal compound underneath.


He took the bezel off so the star was not actually pressed into the head. The star got way too hot with no way to transfer the heat.

Yes he did but it was burning & or smoking before the bezel was taken off , I could smell burning so I took the bezel ,optic ,lens off to see where it was coming from.

I’m guessing one of the Leds was not flowed on well and it wasn’t transferring the heat like it should. It’s important that the center pad under the led, the thermal pad, is soldered properly. This made the one led turn blue and start burning/smelling. Then removing the bezel and going Turbo really fried things. So a pretty rare chain of events and not something that happens often. Normally the XPL are tough and can handle more current than the FW3A can produce.
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Those glow gaskets are pretty great. Smile

I saw those on Neal’s site but i’m unsure how they fit…
Do you need to file the optic of something? Is it just a drop-in?

For those interested, Mad Max just did a video where he installs the glow gasket as well as the new glow switch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8r68GvlTl8

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Good video. How long do the gasket and button glow after the light is shut off?

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Guys, is there any optics replacement for FW3A available? I need striped lens that make the beam oval (for cycling purposes).

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Carlco 10510 elliptical should be perfect for you.

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Carlco 10510 elliptical should be perfect for you.
Facepalm of course, it’s standard 20mm optics

cabfrank – many thanks Beer

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