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it appears that my unexpected science experiment yielded no permanent damage. I’m still kinda spooked though regardless Tired

edit: for science purposes, let it be known that I have an SST20 model.
it’s very rosy on turbo without an optic/glass

Note made & documented for scientific purposes…. Thumbs Up . Wink

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Hey, just a quick question though. Isn’t it the retaining ring that keeps the pressure on the driver/mcpcb? I’m just looking at the schematic on page 1 of this thread. Haven’t taken the thing apart yet so I actually don’t know how it functions.

edit: found a disassembly album. it does appear that pressure is important. at least some of the heat transfers out the edges of the copper disk though i guess. maybe thats how I got lucky

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Nev wrote:

Yes
But I can’t get in the photo bucket thingy , I can post them on email, I had one wonky dodgy curflicked led , (sorry mustn’t swear ) it was also curflicked before I took the bezel off, I’m afraid to show it , I’m really scared of getting ridiculed.

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Yeah, it is fixed now for me. Good picture too.

I am no expert… but it looks like you did not make complete crispy critters out of any of your LED’s. Thumbs Up

I do see some dark areas on them all…. BUT, that may just be on the optic or dirty LED’s.

You can clean the LED’s & MCPCB with a Q-tip & alcohol if you wish.
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Have you got a pic of yours Nev? So we could compare.


Yes
But I can’t get in the photo bucket thingy , I can post them on email, I had one wonky dodgy curflicked led , (sorry mustn’t swear ) it was also curflicked before I took the bezel off, I’m afraid to show it , I’m really scared of getting ridiculed.
Will you hold my hand teacher ?
Understood on photo bucket….. Fear not of being ridiculed my friend….

I’ll stand by you with a high powered blue or violet laser too…. ready to zap any ridiculer. As far as “holding your hand”…. yes i’ll do that to. But only if it is life or death for you. Big Smile

I do have 3 feelings now… pumped up & ready. So if you need one after getting scolded….. I got spares. Big Smile

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Yeah, it is fixed now for me. Good picture too.

I am no expert… but it looks like you did not make complete crispy critters out of any of your LED’s. Thumbs Up

I do see some dark areas on them all…. BUT, that may just be on the optic or dirty LED’s.

You can clean the LED’s & MCPCB with a Q-tip & alcohol if you wish.
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Have you got a pic of yours Nev? So we could compare.


Yes
But I can’t get in the photo bucket thingy , I can post them on email, I had one wonky dodgy curflicked led , (sorry mustn’t swear ) it was also curflicked before I took the bezel off, I’m afraid to show it , I’m really scared of getting ridiculed.
Will you hold my hand teacher ?
Understood on photo bucket….. Fear not of being ridiculed my friend….

I’ll stand by you with a high powered blue or violet laser too…. ready to zap any ridiculer. As far as “holding your hand”…. yes i’ll do that to. But only if it is life or death for you. Big Smile

I do have 3 feelings now… pumped up & ready. So if you need one after getting scolded….. I got spares. Big Smile

Fanks mate.
Wow , the 13000th post.

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GroovyBro wrote:
Hey, just a quick question though. Isn’t it the retaining ring that keeps the pressure on the driver/-mcpcb-? I’m just looking at the schematic on page 1 of this thread. Haven’t taken the thing apart yet so I actually don’t know how it functions.

edit: found a disassembly album. it does appear that pressure is important. at least some of the heat transfers out the edges of the copper disk though i guess. maybe thats how I got lucky


Yes… retaining ring holds driver in. Just make sure retaining ring is tight/not loose.

The MCPCB the LED’s are on is copper, it must be pressed against the shelf in the head to properly transfer heat.

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my guess is the thermal paste is kinda gluey so it kept the mcpcb attached to a certain extent
still, im never doing that ever again

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Amen.

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In flashlights that use reflectors, it’s the bezel and lens that push down on the reflector, which then pushes down on the led/mcpcb. It’s this contact pressure between the mcpcb and the aluminum shelf that causes the heat to transfer into the flashlight body.

So you don’t want to use Turbo if the reflector or optic is out or the bezel is loose/removed. With no pressure on the mcpcb, the leds could overheat within seconds.

A few flashlights use screws to hold down the mcpcb, but most only use the screws for anti-rotation purposes (FW3A) and they don’t apply any downward pressure. The designs vary from flashlight to flashlight. It’s best to not even turn on a flashlight if the lens or reflector is loose or removed. Moonlight or a very low level is usually okay for a short period of time, but be careful.

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cabfrank wrote:

Boys, please.


When someone verbally attacks me, I defend myself.


Get used to it.

This.

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It doesn’t matter to me. It does matter to the forum owner/admin. Perhaps you are unaware of that after less than four months.

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When someone verbally attacks me, I defend myself.


Get used to it.

You were participating in an argument which you initiated.

As a reminder of, the rules that we all agreed to when we signed up:

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Your first post accused another poster of being dishonest. That clearly violates rule #1

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Nev, you’ve been a member for over two years, you have almost a thousand posts, and you have no idea that swearing isn’t allowed on BLF?


I’m not buying it.

You then resorted to a personal attack towards said poster. This clearly violates rules #1 & #4. An argument can be made that it also violates rule #2.

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Nice attitude, a-hole.

Both posts have been reported. Please feel free to discuss the issue with the board owner.

In the future if you see other posters violating the rules I am sure he would appreciate it if you did the same.

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We don’t need a public trial. Nev is no Angel. I’m sure he has thicker skin anyways since he asking for it half the time

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We don’t need a public trial. Nev is no Angel. I’m sure he has thicker skin anyways since he asking for it half the time
Facepalm Facepalm Facepalm .. Shocked .. Was this necessary?? . Sad . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Kindle explained everything concisely & accurately . As did cabfrank.

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teacher wrote:
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We don’t need a public trial. Nev is no Angel. I’m sure he has thicker skin anyways since he asking for it half the time
Facepalm Facepalm Facepalm .. Shocked .. Was this necessary?? . Sad . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Kindle explained everything concisely & accurately . As did cabfrank.

racoon city knows the rules already, this just progresses a needless argument. You know, rule 4 and all “drop the subject” is probably the best course here

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Let’s keep discussing the new FW3x options. Pretty cool choices!

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On topic:

I wonder what they did do the full Ti version for heat. I think they tossed around the idea of a 3mm MCPCB or something.

In any case I ordered 1x stonewashed and 1x ti+cu. Considering this puts me at 4 FW3A’s I think 1 or 2 will make the WTS chopping block. Decisions decisions. Question

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On topic:

I wonder what they did do the full Ti version for heat. I think they tossed around the idea of a 3mm MCPCB or something.

In any case I ordered 1x stonewashed and 1x ti+cu. Considering this puts me at 4 FW3A’s I think 1 or 2 will make the WTS chopping block. Decisions decisions. Question


I also had a hard time deciding what finish to get. I like both the polished and stonewashed options but ended up going with the same 2 you got. Figured the copper would help heat dissipation more. Now to decide if and which of my other FW3As to sell… haha.

BTW, I opted for the Express shipping option for $11 more. Does this make a difference?

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I think it makes a difference in shipping speed, but probably not in “time until shipped”. Being early on the list and paying for express shipping, you’ll probably be one of the first to receive your lights.

Your tracking might work better as well.

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You should get your light about 10-12 days sooner than you would otherwise

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racoon city knows the rules already, this just progresses a needless argument. You know, rule 4 and all “drop the subject” is probably the best course here
Your right… we all know or should know, the Rules. We had to read them before joining BLF.

This whole thing has been completely unnecessary.

As Kindle eluded to…. the puplic confronting of Nev was uncalled for… especially the way it was worded. There is but one administrator / moderator at BLF.

Private PM would have been a much better way to handle it..Or better yet, let the administrator ( sb56637 ) handle any perceived problem.

Instead, BLF Rules were broken to “confront” someone who allegedly broke BLF Rules. Then a downward spiral results.

Somewhat silly isn’t it??? Smile

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Just ordered a purple FW3A with Nichia 4000K. Cool

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Forgive me if it’s been mentioned in in the thread before but it’s a lot to sift through:

What level would I need to set my ramp ceiling in order to have it stop at max regulated output?

I’ve changed the level a couple times and don’t remember. I recall seeing 120/150 being max regulated so 30/31 clicks for the ramp ceiling config, but that seems pretty damn bright given turbo output with a freshly charged 30Q is only a little bit brighter than that.

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I forgot to mention, I’m trying the 4000K 90CRI SST20 this time. I’ve tried 5000K 90CRI 219C before and hated it, just had the XPL-HI in my other FW3A, and that didn’t impress. The tint was great, but the light isn’t built for the heat at all and it stepped down way too fast. If I don’t like the SST20, I may just buy a flashing kit, throw some of my new 219Bs in it, and flash a turbo-limited firmware on it.

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DarkShot wrote:
... What level would I need to set my ramp ceiling in order to have it stop at max regulated output? ... I recall seeing 120/150 being max regulated so 30/31 clicks for the ramp ceiling config...
You have it right; 31 clicks in the ramp config. http://toykeeper.net/torches/fsm/anduril-manual.txt "To set the default of 120/150, click 31 times."

 

Edit: See this comment from TK: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1506066#comment-1506066

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Buzzy243 wrote:
DarkShot wrote:
… What level would I need to set my ramp ceiling in order to have it stop at max regulated output?

… I recall seeing 120/150 being max regulated so 30/31 clicks for the ramp ceiling config…

You have it right; 31 clicks in the ramp config.

http://toykeeper.net/torches/fsm/anduril-manual.txt

“To set the default of 120/150,
click 31 times.”


I don’t think that spaghetti-monster version is the one used on the FW3A. It’s more generic.

The default smooth ramp ceiling for the FW3A should be 130. This would be 21 clicks.

So in Smooth ramp you click 1 then 21.
In stepped mode it’s 20 then 21 then 7.

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Kindle wrote:

Your first post accused another poster of being dishonest. That clearly violates rule #1

I call bs on that.

I didn't accuse anyone, so far, of being dishonest.

I made it clear that Nev should know better than to put the f-word in his avatar.

And you should know the difference, too, unless your first language is not English.

(Or maybe you're just trying to misrepresent my words.)

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You then resorted to a personal attack towards said poster. This clearly violates rules #1 & #4. An argument can be made that it also violates rule #2.

I defended myself after he attacked me, Einstein.

And suggesting that I broke three different rules by defending myself is a huge stretch of the imagination.

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Please feel free to discuss the issue with the board owner. In the future if you see other posters violating the rules I am sure he would appreciate it if you did the same.

I have started a conversation about this topic with Mr. Admin, but like I said, I have no idea when he'll sign in next, and BLF doesn't need 900+ f-words littered all across the forum, so I handled it myself.

And I handled it quite well, if I might add.

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teacher wrote:

Your right… we all know or should know, the Rules. We had to read them before joining BLF.

This whole thing has been completely unnecessary.

As Kindle eluded to…. the puplic confronting of Nev was uncalled for… especially the way it was worded. There is but one administrator / moderator at BLF.

Private PM would have been a much better way to handle it..Or better yet, let the administrator ( sb56637 ) handle any perceived problem.

Instead, BLF Rules were broken to “confront” someone who allegedly broke BLF Rules. Then a downward spiral results.

Somewhat silly isn’t it??? Smile

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