FW3A, a TLF/BLF EDC flashlight - SST-20 available, coupon codes public

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My light has a brass driver retaining ring, black pocket clip, Lumintop one piece optic and the most important detail is the tail
cap has been glued tight.

That sounds odd. They now have the retaining ring for the tail so glue is not necessary. The black clip is definitely an early part. I thought they had fully switched to silver clips before they started using the one piece optic.

Do you see the traces of glue or is it still together and too tight to remove? I have not heard of them gluing any tails. Quite odd.

Maybe the store added the glue to reduce warranty issues?

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JasonWW wrote:
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My light has a brass driver retaining ring, black pocket clip, Lumintop one piece optic and the most important detail is the tail
cap has been glued tight.

That sounds odd. They now have the retaining ring for the tail so glue is not necessary. The black clip is definitely an early part. I thought they had fully switched to silver clips before they started using the one piece optic.

Do you see the traces of glue or is it still together and too tight to remove? I have not heard of them gluing any tails. Quite odd.

Maybe the store added the glue to reduce warranty issues?

There is trace of glue on the pocket clip and the inner tube is pretty much stuck inside the body as well so i think there’s a good chance that it has been glued. I’ve also checked with the store, they said all their FW3A have been glued like this from the factory but only in their recent batch and not on the earlier ones.

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Received my purple edition today (thanks ToyKeeper). Worked great out of box – I opened it anyway, it has a black retaining ring in the tail, silver clip, and a brass retaining ring in the head. I forget how to check the Anduril version (well, I forget how to check for the manual memory or two-step lockout mode). Also has a glass lens and Carclo optic.
I went with the SST-20 4000K for this one, and I’m not noticing any green, so it’s a pretty good tint. The button doesn’t feel better or worse than I recall the button being on my original, group-buy edition FW3A.

Fake edit: Checked, and it does have a two-step lockout mode. I don’t remember other details to check for, or what Anduril version that indicates.

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are the copper ones coated now?? I opened mine, washed it and attempted to force patina with baking soda and warm water. The effect was negligible after 4 hours. like zero effect. I thought it would be easier

Put it overnight in a bag with smashed hard boiled eggs.

Patinas like crazy.


I might bite the bullet and get liver of sulfur. The baking soda did zip
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I got mine 3 days ago, but the batteries I ordered were supposed to arrive yesterday, instead I got this bogus tracking notice “we are unable to access you residence, we will make an attempt on the next business day” which is mailman speak for I am too tired/lazy and want to go home Silly . And of course there is no mail tomorrow for holiday, so I have to sit and stare at this light for 2 more days

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I got a Amazon.CO.UK deal

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Wow that’s a good price! I’d be in if they had the raw 4000K SST20 on there.

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some rogue mailman dropped off my batteries on a holiday today! I had similar issues with this V2 version as a lot reported, mostly it wouldn’t shut off, one time right after I hit turbo, man was that hot unscrewing the head. then it wouldn’t turn on after I let it cool. Took it apart and cleaned everything with alcohol, still nothing.

Seems to be working now after I cranked down the tail and head simultaneously, that seems to be best way to get some good leverage. Hopefully that was the only issue.

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Now that all the versions are available has anyone tested thermal regulation on the various metal combinations?

Something like a fan cooled 5 minute run time chart for each (assuming the same LED)

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Now that all the versions are available has anyone tested thermal regulation on the various metal combinations?

Something like a fan cooled 5 minute run time chart for each (assuming the same LED)


I did 30 seconds on the copper and it was too hot to hold.
I posted it on here someplace.
I think it was around 60 C
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Now that all the versions are available has anyone tested thermal regulation on the various metal combinations?

Something like a fan cooled 5 minute run time chart for each (assuming the same LED)


I did 30 seconds on the copper and it was too hot to hold.
I posted it on here someplace.
I think it was around 60 C

Every light will be too hot to hold depending on your settings. Not really what I want to know. More interested in something like this:

With temp ceiling set to ~55C and a small fan on. Start from Turbo or Ceiling Max and then record % output for 5 minutes.

Curious how much you are really sacrificing by choosing full Ti for example.

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I don’t have a meter to do that, but I can tell you for sure you will never have this light on Turbo for 5 minutes. You would be in the burn unit by then.

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With my lights —if you don’t manually step down Turbo —they will ramp down and continiue to ramp way down — sometimes to 35 lumens or so —I have the Temp set on 60c—you better be careful it will burn you —that’s in about 2 min —- it only stays in Turbo for 30 + seconds

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Yea i’m referring to lights with the thermal regulation set correctly i’m not sure why scosgt is reading my reply as otherwise. Anyways, curious to see where and how fast it ends up at that “few hundred lumen” level depending on the material. I have one of each of the metals but only 2 share the same LED or I would do it myself. I may still try I suppose.

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ok please forgive me if this has been brought up already but has anyone else had the button of their cells absolutely crushed by the driver spring of the FW3A?

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ok please forgive me if this has been brought up already but has anyone else had the button of their cells absolutely crushed by the driver spring of the FW3A?

Yes, my FW3A dented the positive contact on my NCR18650GA when I dropped it head down. It has happened in other lights as well.

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ok please forgive me if this has been brought up already but has anyone else had the button of their cells absolutely crushed by the driver spring of the FW3A?

2 things, there is a length limit which is why flat top cells are recommended.
Second, anytime you have a new flashlight you have to make sure to not over tighten the head or tail and crush/damage the battery.

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Yes, my FW3A dented the positive contact on my NCR18650GA when I dropped it head down. It has happened in other lights as well.

This would be a different situation where the G forces of the dropped battery dented the button. That can happen by dropping a battery by itself. It’s a little more likely to happen inside a flashlight as the impact angle doesn’t have to be so exact and the coiled spring focuses the pressure on a smaller area. The middle of the button is weaker than the edge.

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JasonWW wrote:
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Yes, my FW3A dented the positive contact on my NCR18650GA when I dropped it head down. It has happened in other lights as well.
This would be a different situation where the G forces of the dropped battery dented the button. That can happen by dropping a battery by itself. It’s a little more likely to happen inside a flashlight as the impact angle doesn’t have to be so exact and the coiled spring focuses the pressure on a smaller area. The middle of the button is weaker than the edge.

Obviously… I just told him my experience with dented cells. I stick to the cell size recommendations for all my flashlights.

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5 minute 30 second fan cooled with GA cell at 4.1x volts. I make no promises of the accuracy and in fact I don’t think the percentages are accurate but i’m hoping the overall shape is. When I pulled it off the box the SST-20 lights were in the 320-360 lumen range which doesn’t make sense given the percent stated.

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When I pulled it off the box

I’m curious about the box. What are you talking about?

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JasonWW wrote:
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When I pulled it off the box
I’m curious about the box. What are you talking about?

Integrating shoebox?

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When I pulled it off the box
I’m curious about the box. What are you talking about?

I used my old integrating shoe box and my Galaxy S10 with ceilingbounce app. I haven’t really used the app on this phone or the shoe box in a long time so I cant really trust how either of those work.

At the end of the test I stuck them on my own somewhat calibrated DIY sphere just to have a more accurate measurement at the ~5-6 minute mark

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5 minute 30 second fan cooled with GA cell at 4.1x volts. I make no promises of the accuracy and in fact I don’t think the percentages are accurate but i’m hoping the overall shape is. When I pulled it off the box the SST-20 lights were in the 320-360 lumen range which doesn’t make sense given the percent stated.

The ambient light sensor on the phone might simply be very non-linear.

The camera light meter should be quite accurate, but I don’t know if it’s possible to modify Ceiling Bounce to be able to use that sensor.

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That was my thought as well. Should be good enough looking at the end results though

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I took this photo and posted it on Reddit, but then I thought you guys might appreciate it too. The TK edition’s purple colour looks really nice!

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Really wish that button was available separately. Crying

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Really wish that button was available separately. Crying

Me too!

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anyone seen that 18350 tube for this light? any word on when?

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Really wish that button was available separately. Crying

Me too!

As much as I agree and believe the FW3X is soo easy to be modded, this may not be the best place to express this wish.

I previously took the same request directly to Neil and suggest those on BLF who want buttons band together and do the same.

Enjoy the light show - LedTed

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