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SKV89 wrote:
Why not XP-L2 which is newer and more efficient instead of XP-G3?

I know its a cost thing, but XP-L 4000k (the A or D version) is a real winner.

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XP-L HI usually looks pretty nice under TIR optics like this; good output without much tint shift. It would probably add at least $10 to the price though, since the emitters cost twice as much.

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I did a lot of preliminary experimentation on the XP-G3 when it first came out, with MEM helping point the way. I was never impressed with it and won’t use it. The XP-L2, while impressive, is questionable as to whether it fits under the Carclo optic or not, it’s a tight fit and can lead to separation of the dome and inverted die face which would just be troublesome in the long run.

XP-L HI or Nichia 219C are excellent choices under these optics, as are the XP-G2 emitters in nice tint’s.

The difficult to source XP-L W2 fits under the optics but as I said, it’s not reliably sourced. The 3 XP-L “V6” 2D in my Sofirn C8F appear to be the W2 variant, with smaller flats on the side of the dome than the typical V6, this is what allows the W2 to fit the optic. So, if the source for Sofirn’s choice of emitter could be reliably located I’d highly recommend it, I’ve seen the W2 produce 2018 lumens in a single emitter single cell light. Should be quite nice in this one. My Sofirn triple with an aluminum triple reflector is making 4378 lumens. Just sayin…

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Hi,

Today I had another look at the prototype. To be precise, I baked it in the oven at 150 degree C to loosen up the glue in the tailcap and to have a closer look at the switch assembly.

But first let’s start out with a few pictures of the light:

Somehow the design is growing on me, but we have not decided yet if we will keep it like this or change it.
To repeat myself, I am very pleased with the prototype. It’s not entirely the light we want yet but already quite close and the things which need to be changed are details.

But let’s have a closer look at the switch assembly. To get straight to the point, I am very pleased with the switch and my expectations have been exceeded.

Here a picture of all the parts:

LT implemented my design nicely and even improved it. They added a small o-ring to prevent the inner tube from rattling when changing the battery and to provide a tighter fit.

Another detail, there is a small plastic pin in the rubber sealing to improve the feel of the switch.

If you’re not fond of the metal switch or want the switch to be more easily reachable, that’s not a problem either. The light is constructed to support standard 14mm silicon caps.

The quality of the clip is great. Often you can see marks from cutting out the material. Here the edges are nicely rounded and polished.

I hope you like what you see so far and if you have other questions I am happy to answer.

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Looks fantastic!!!! I love this new version! Thumbs UpCool

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Firelight2 wrote:
Looks fantastic!!!! I love this new version! Thumbs UpCool

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I like the silocone button. I hope it doesn’t come glued so I can do that to mine…

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No hole for a lanyard ? I usually put a split ring with a carabiner and hang it off a belt loop for work.
I wouldn’t trust just a pocket clip. To afraid it would slip out and I’d lose it. Not a deal breaker though.
Looks nice.

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I was not stuck on the 1st idea of the light, despite I like some aspects on it, namely that “shine” it has!
But as some said above, this design is growing on me! I see me attaching the flashlight in a pocket much better on this version, as it seems to “slide” more easily than the “1st version” (on post #1).
I hope the tail clicky is “ninja style”: smooth, silent and effective to operate the light nicely!

I’m sure Fritz and the team, and Lumintop still has some work to do, but this is getting a nice shape! Blushing

fritz15 wrote:
I hope you like what you see so far and if you have other questions I am happy to answer.

Though, I dare to ask about an aspect that is being talked in previous posts: is there a final decision on the emitters, or is this a open case yet, like the final shape of the light?

Thanks for you nice work and keep it up to bring this light to our hands Wink

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I still like the original version and this one, one of each please!

It’s a looker alright, sophisticated but still rugged looking, I really like the finish, it would be nice if the head knurling matched the tail cap knurling, balance the look better. I can just hear it now though… Crying

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crz6662 wrote:
No hole for a lanyard ? I usually put a split ring with a carabiner and hang it off a belt loop for work. I wouldn’t trust just a pocket clip. To afraid it would slip out and I’d lose it. Not a deal breaker though. Looks nice.

Looks like a split ring would fit nicely through the hole in the clip, and the clip is captive, so quite secure.

Beam me up!

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There are two places to attach a lanyard — the front of the clip and the back of the clip.

About the finish, I think the plan is to make the final finish have more of a bare-metal shine, similar to the “clear” Convoy lights. Enough anodizing to help protect the surface, but not enough to change its color.

The shape and the emitters aren’t finalized.

The tail clicky isn’t a clicky; it’s an e-switch. It’s not ninja-style, it’s a little louder than most e-switches, but it’s still quieter than most “clicky” switches. The sound can probably also be reduced by replacing the button with a rubber one as Fritz showed.

I don’t expect this to be available for purchase for at least two or three months, though that’s only a guess. Probably not until after CNY / Spring Festival, which falls in mid-February this year. There should be at least one more round of prototypes before release, and that takes a while.

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Thanks for opening the light up and showing us, that’s great!
I still think the prototype is going from a combination of a slender feminine look at the head with the smooth lines to a masculine blocky angular look at the tail end. I really hope the final version turns out to one or the other symmetrically.

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Looks great! I want it now! Thumbs Up

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netprince wrote:
I like the silocone button. I hope it doesn’t come glued so I can do that to mine…

Even if it does come glued, it will not be a problem. I put mine in the oven at 150 degree C for around 20 minutes. After taking it out I used an old inner tube from my bike to get some grip on the light. With that I could unscrew it rather easily.

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Though, I dare to ask about an aspect that is being talked in previous posts: is there a final decision on the emitters, or is this a open case yet, like the final shape of the light?

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Unfortunately, the prototypes feature XP-G2s rather than XP-G3s. It would be nice to have XP-G3s since then all team members could have had a look at the beam and the tint.

KawiBoy1428 wrote:
I still like the original version and this one, one of each please!

It’s a looker alright, sophisticated but still rugged looking, I really like the finish, it would be nice if the head knurling matched the tail cap knurling, balance the look better. I can just hear it now though… Crying

That is one of the comments I have for LT. Currently, the knurling on the tail and the head don’t really match up that nicely.

CRX wrote:
Thanks for opening the light up and showing us, that’s great! I still think the prototype is going from a combination of a slender feminine look at the head with the smooth lines to a masculine blocky angular look at the tail end. I really hope the final version turns out to one or the other symmetrically.

While I would disagree that one look is feminine and the other masculine, but you are right that those two different design styles should be matched.

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That’s the way, aha, aha. I like it, aha, aha.

I always think long and hard before I say something really stupid.

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Quick question. What is the sleeve in the tube body for? Different battery configurations? Smile

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Majoroverkill wrote:
Quick question. What is the sleeve in the tube body for? Different battery configurations? Smile

It carries the electrical signal from the rear e-switch to the front mounted driver.

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I am interested in one light.
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I think I’d like to be put down for a second light please, thanks

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Sorry i diden’t find me in the list, Please Add me with One light. THANKS

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Thanks fritz15…. I like it. A lot!! . Thumbs Up

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Fritz? Isn’t it also customary to cut a bevel at the leading edge of a section of knurling so as to reduce the sharpness? Can’t tell from the pictures if this is being done, thought you might want to look into it…

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Still have no clue about features, except that it is with a single 18650, BUT…it looks awesome!

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Finnno, it’s a triple (expected to be XP-G3) with either Narsil from Tom E or the advanced variant of Narsil that ToyKeeper calls Anduril. Ramping is the primary UI, if it’s indeed Anduril there will be configurable floor and ceiling levels to the ramp, double click to Turbo from any position, moon from a press and hold from off, configurable low and moon levels. Last level memory so you can use a selected level in the 150 step ramp repeatedly, there will be blinkies in a mode group that’s easily selected and these blinkies themselves are user configurable for speed and so forth, like the Beacon will be configurable to blink at a set timing that you choose. There may also be other modes to play with in another group. Wink

At any rate, it will be an advanced UI written by one of two members here. Very nice stuff indeed. Big Smile

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ToyKeeper wrote:
About the finish, I think the plan is to make the final finish have more of a bare-metal shine, similar to the “clear” Convoy lights. Enough anodizing to help protect the surface, but not enough to change its color.

The shape and the emitters aren’t finalized.

The tail clicky isn’t a clicky; it’s an e-switch. It’s not ninja-style, it’s a little louder than most e-switches, but it’s still quieter than most “clicky” switches. The sound can probably also be reduced by replacing the button with a rubber one as Fritz showed.


Sorry and thanks for correcting me; I know this is an e-switch, just used the wrong name for it Facepalm
Anyway, if that can be solved, untill the final version or with a button change, that’s ok for me Wink
fritz15 wrote:
Unfortunately, the prototypes feature XP-G2s rather than XP-G3s. It would be nice to have XP-G3s since then all team members could have had a look at the beam and the tint.

Thanks for both your you answers about the emitters ! I’m sure on the next prototypes they will have the “correct” LEDs for the team to test and to see if they will be the appropriate LEDs for this – already – amazing flashlight Wink

Also, the “bare-metal shine” will be making a my eyes shine with it Big Smile

Keep up the good work and keep us updated in this please Wink Thanks for the efforts on this project Thumbs Up

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Features… lots of features. As many as we can fit into 8K (which, as it turns out, is quite a few).

It seems it’ll probably use Anduril. It has a smooth ramp, a mode group, soft lock, momentary, muggle mode, and about nine optional blinkies in two groups… and the ability to configure almost everything. For example, the mode group uses whatever floor and ceiling levels you want, with any number of levels between, evenly-spaced. The beacon and strobes go at whatever speed you set. Biking and candle and momentary and beacon modes run at whatever brightness you set. Many of the options are configured realtime during use without going into a menu. It also does smooth thermal regulation, automatically adjusting to any of about 640 levels to keep heat from going too high.

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Very interested, please add me to the list for 1.

Any chance it will be offered in high CRI or warmer neutral white like 4000k? Smile

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KawiBoy1428 wrote:
I still like the original version and this one, one of each please!

It’s a looker alright, sophisticated but still rugged looking, I really like the finish, it would be nice if the head knurling matched the tail cap knurling, balance the look better. I can just hear it now though… Crying

Does anyone have a side by side picture of the ‘two versions’…. or the capability’s to make one ???

It would be interesting to see.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
There are two places to attach a lanyard — the front of the clip and the back of the clip.

Any solutions for those who don’t like clips? I know there are a few of us….

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