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Hello everyone. I just bought something off of Gearbest for the first time. It’s the flashlight seen above. I was wondering if anyone owns it and has more info/an opinion on it.

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Good question asked. I’m also wondering the same thing. Most likely a rejected design light from a reputable flashlight manufacturer which doesn’t want to be named? Feel like placing my bet on one.. Smile

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Please add a link to the flashlight

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Welcome to BLF!
If you go to tinypic.com or another image hosted you can upload that jpg for us to see or link to the light on Gearbest please Wink

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Welcome to BLF!

Apparently it’s a fake emitter with blue tint and only makes around 500 lumens.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/52511
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/52754

Also
https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/5u2yif/zero_reviews_usb_rec...

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I knew it’d likely be a fake XML, but I’m disappointed that it’ll have a blue tint (I’m assuming the color temp is 6500-7000k) Sad
Where can I buy genuine Cree Emitters for cheap?
-Nevermind, found some on eBay. I’ll post screencaps of the listings and, if you could, tell be if they’re genuine. -
All the eBay listings have the chips at 6000-7000k. Where could I get 4000k-5000k chips?

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Got this
Tossed the cell
The ramping is nice
Charging should be good

Not sure if I’m going to swap LED
If I sell a light I think I put this in the box as little present.

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According to the description it doesn’t come with a cell. Does it?

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Oh IDK
Mine came in a plastic padded box (nice) with an Ultrafire cell.

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Trust me, you dont want to use that cell, it’s crap very low capacity

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Whether it comes with a cell likely depends on your location.
For example shipping a li-ion cell to USA is problematic and won’t be included.

I would be wearly of leds from ebay and you dont want those random bin tints.

Here is a list of places to get a better led
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/42355

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I already have a cell on hand, I’ll likely use that, but I may get a new one. Still thinking about that,

Well, eventually I’ll replace the LED with a chip that has a lower Kelvin rating. What does reflow mean? (Sorry, I’m an amateur at this stuff)

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I see you edited. Thanks for the link

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What’s the difference between the 5A and 4C tints?

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NFRealBathrooms wrote:
I already have a cell on hand, I’ll likely use that, but I may get a new one. Still thinking about that,

Well, eventually I’ll replace the LED with a chip that has a lower Kelvin rating. What does reflow mean? (Sorry, I’m an amateur at this stuff)

The led has to be mounted to a MCPCB commonly called a star.
You can but the led already mounted to a star (some name brands are sinkpad and noctigon)
or you can buy the bare led, and remove the old one from the star that comes in the light, then put the new led onto that star. This process is called reflowing: led is soldered to the star and to remove/replace it you put it onto a hotplate to reflow the solder.

Easiest way to get a new led is to buy it on a star. You just need to know the diameter of the star that comes in the light so you can replace it with the correct size.

Then it is just a matter of unsoldering/resoldering 2 wires, as opposed to reflowing the whole led.

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NFRealBathrooms wrote:
What’s the difference between the 5A and 4C tints?

Wish I had a better answer but I will refer you to this chart.

http://flashlightwiki.com/File:Ansi-white.jpg

Cree actually explains it in articulate detail but I can’t make heads or tails of it. Big Smile
http://www.cree.com/led-components/media/documents/XLampXMBL.pdf

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So would 5A have a more reddish tint?

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So would 5A have a more reddish tint?

4C is a bit warm, but nice, not too yellowish. 5A is a little warmer, closer to halogen/incandescent.

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It’s a shame that the emitters on all these generic lights are garbage. I’d pay a few $ more to get one of them with a good neutral-white OEM so I don’t have to swap myself. I happen to like the design of a lot of the generic hosts, although I tend to dislike the UIs with the forced strobe modes.

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NFRealBathrooms wrote:
I’m probably gonna buy this:
http://www.lck-led.com/cree-xlamp-xml2-neutral-white-tint-p-1128.html
https://www.fasttech.com/products/1609/10003889/1425002-cree-xm-l2-t6-3b...

Is 20mm the standard PCB size for most flashlights?

No there is not reaaly a standard size. I would measure the star that is in the light or wait for someone to reply who has measured theirs. It can certainly be smaller than 20 in which case you would find yourself filing it down and having less area to solder the wires to

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Yeah, I suppose I’ll just wait till I get the light, then measure it.

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If you look at the thread Angler gave you will see this link

Pok wrote:
I have one, and It is fake XM-L2 blueish tint , I swapped to my spare XML.
I love it.

My language and pics review here.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=725338094301818&id=100...

to a FB page with pictures where he diasassembles it.
It seems Thai, but google translate will help, as far as i can make up from his story, the pcb is 21 mm, so 20mm will do fine probably
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QUOTE:

LA & A L2-8029 Flashlight
.
I decided to buy it. Because price and shape.
Price not over 400 baht.
(If not, start KFC around midway. Left hand note)
The shape is not small.
.
Equipment parts
The overall job is available at this price level.
There are boxes for aluminum body with clips.
Smooth aluminum mirror lens
16mm tube mount
Circuit size 21mm
.
UI
Shut off switch
Pressing the light will gradually decrease to the lowest level, the light will flash twice.
Double click on strobe mode.
The new Hi mode is always open.
.
Light indicator
When the red light on the flashing button
Full chart turns green.
Turn on the green flashlight.
The battery is all red.
.
Eating
4.2V ... Hi ... 2300mA ... Low ... 280mA 4.0V … Hi … 1950mA … Low … 240mA …
@ 3.8V … Hi … 1650mA … Low … 200mA
.
Brightness is about 500 lumen.
Shines about 5600 cd or 150 meters.
.
Circuit Charts fully charged: 4.19V is considered a flashlight, many brands are still swinging.
Available battery capacity: 1000 mA
.
Summary of advantages
Price with something Acceptable
Built-in battery box.
Cooling system is available.
Brass tube base with spiral tube Then screw the head with a flashlight.
.

Conclusion
XM-L2 light forge out the sky.

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Ah, thanks.

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Yokiamy wrote:
If you look at the thread Angler gave you will see this link

Pok wrote:
I have one, and It is fake XM-L2 blueish tint , I swapped to my spare XML.
I love it.

My language and pics review here.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=725338094301818&id=100...

to a FB page with pictures where he diasassembles it.
It seems Thai, but google translate will help, as far as i can make up from his story, the pcb is 21 mm, so 20mm will do fine probably
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Very good of you to find and translate this, however

I think something is lost in translation or perhaps just wrong.

If you look at this picture and consider that the LED is 5mm,
there is no way the star can be 21mm. It appears to be 16mm.
Looks like the LED will fit on the star 3 times across with 1mm left over (16mm),
definitely not 4 times with 1 mm left over (21mm).

I do believe after seeing this picture that the star is 16mm.
What do you think?

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“16mm tube mount” must be referring to the star
It is more likely that the actual tube of the light is 21mm, but the star can’t be.
I think this picture pretty much confirms it is 16mm based on 5mm LED.

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Has anyone seen this light in another store (BG, FT, etc.) ?

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Thanks. Yes, I’ve seen it on AliExpress

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Yep, definitely 16mm. Thanks guys.

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Sorry, my bad

Definitely NOT 20 mm, must be 16mm

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