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Does all usb charger cable fit all flashlight example will the Nitecore TIP cable fit all rechargeable flashlight and so on?

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I think they’re all micro USB, so any USB to micro USB cable will work.

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I wasn’t sure if the usb cable are like the cell phone. Apple don’t fit the Samsung mini usb.

Thanks for the reply!

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Yes. The “U” of USB stands for “Universal”. Some companies like Apple have their own standard indeed (not compatible). The only minor exception perhaps is the latest USB C type plug. But very few devices use this new format that require a different new cable. For example Samsung Galaxy S8, and Wuben T102 (only flashlight that I know of) use USB C.

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Yes, but some usb cables have a larger protective boot that can get in the way if the usb port is recessed. Not an issue with the Tip because that usb port is flush with the case.

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Also be aware that many USB cables use very thin wires, which does affect their ability to transfer high current, meaning that the charge time will be considerably longer.
Anker, for example makes excellent cables.
The Rolls Royce of cables is probably this one: https://paracable.com

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How can I find out which size usb cable fit what rechargeable light? I don’t want to order a cable and it doesn’t fit.

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Venom wrote:
How can I find out which size usb cable fit what rechargeable light? I don’t want to order a cable and it doesn’t fit.

If the light specification says the light has a micro usb charging port, then you just need to order a micro usb cable

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dw911 wrote:
Venom wrote:
How can I find out which size usb cable fit what rechargeable light? I don’t want to order a cable and it doesn’t fit.

If the light specification says the light has a micro usb charging port, then you just need to order a micro usb cable

Apple, Samsung, Amazon Fire they all use micro usb but none of them fit each other.

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You can charge a TIP, Tube, Imalent DT70, Zanflare F1, or any light that is rechargeable via USB with a Samsung USB cable/charger that you get with your Samsung phone (the exception being the Wuben T102 which requires USB C). At least, that’s how I see it.

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All micro USB leads will fit , however the charge rate will vary I have some cheap ones that will pull a max of 0.5A while a good on will pull 2.0A . Makes a big difference charging my BT speaker (Anker 3143) on that its 0.5A generic lead vs 1.5A Anker lead.

Accordng to my Portapow USB power monitor.

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Venom wrote:
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Venom wrote:
How can I find out which size usb cable fit what rechargeable light? I don’t want to order a cable and it doesn’t fit.

If the light specification says the light has a micro usb charging port, then you just need to order a micro usb cable

Apple, Samsung, Amazon Fire they all use micro usb but none of them fit each other.

Maybe I’m not understanding the question you asked or missing what your getting at,so apologies if I am, but in my experience if a device has a micro usb port then any micro usb cable will fit in it, – I’ve got a whole host of various devices, torches etc with micro usb ports,as I’m sure many people have, and ive never had a problem with any of then not excepting a micro usb cable – some may charge slower as others have mentioned , especially if it a cheap – or very long- micro usb cable on say my Samsung s7 edge, my FLIR camera and my Mavic pro drone, but they all charge,sometimes it just takes longer

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As long as the device is listed as having a micro USB port any micro USB cable should fit and work. The only issue I have had with the EE X6R, for example, is that if I use one of the reversible micro USB cables it will only charge if inserted in one direction. Whereas the same cable charges my tablet and my pohone via the micro USB when inserted in either direction.

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I just lined up the Apple and Samsung mini usb. The Apple is thinner and wider than the Samsung usb.

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Apple’s is a “lightning” connector, isn’t it? It is different
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/12/hardware-comparison-lightning-connect...

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Venom wrote:
I wasn’t sure if the usb cable are like the cell phone. Apple don’t fit the Samsung mini usb.

Thanks for the reply!


That’s because apple does not use micro USB.
They use the lighting connector.
It is completely different.

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Lightning is a proprietary connector, only used with Apple products:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_)

Micro-USB is a standard connector used by (among others) Samsung:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Micro_connectors

Mini-USB is an older standard, not in use by any newer products:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Mini_connectors

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Last night while lining the Apple with the Samsung I notice the Apple was difference. After doing research on the lightning connector it makes sense now. The Samsung uses a micro b plug.

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Thanks for the replies everyone its much appreciated

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Hey Venom,

this is typically Apple (not in a good or bad way). They have their own proprietary connection so they can design it to their needs without having to take standardisation into consideration. At the same time this means that as an Apple consumer you are forced to buy their cable with a nice profit margin for Apple.

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RollerBoySE wrote:

Mini-USB is an older standard, not in use by any newer products:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Mini_connectors

Except Garmin. My one year old GPS still uses the mini

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hIKARInoob wrote:
Hey Venom,

this is typically Apple (not in a good or bad way). They have their own proprietary connection so they can design it to their needs without having to take standardisation into consideration. At the same time this means that as an Apple consumer you are forced to buy their cable with a nice profit margin for Apple.


tbh the lighting connector has a much better design.
But they really should switch to USB-C at this point.

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hIKARInoob wrote:
Hey Venom,

this is typically Apple (not in a good or bad way).

In a bad way.
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They have their own proprietary connection so they can design it to their needs without having to take standardisation into consideration. At the same time this means that as an Apple consumer you are forced to buy their cable with a nice profit margin for Apple.
That’s bad.

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Actual screenshot I have just taken from the official spanish Apple site, “Lightning to USB cable” product page:

 

Check it out: https://www.apple.com/es/shop/product/MD818ZM/A/cable-de-conector-lightning-a-usb

 

Out of 121, there were 5 fanboys and 116 who have seen the light. Pretty ludicrous show! €25 a piece! 

Apple may be rich, but certainly it is not because of me.

 

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Having a family that all have Apple iPhones, the 1 aspect of the Lightning cable that I like is that it can be inserted either way. There’s not a top or bottom to it. On the other hand, the micro, mini, and regular USB can only be inserted 1 way. And with the micro USB, sometimes I think I’m inserting it the right way, but then it seems to not quite fit and then I’ll realize to turn it around. I haven’t broke a micro USB in a device yet, but my son has. They seem a little fragile.

I’d rather use my flashlight around the house than turn on the lights.

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RollerBoySE wrote:
Also be aware that many USB cables use very thin wires, which does affect their ability to transfer high current, meaning that the charge time will be considerably longer. Anker, for example makes excellent cables. The Rolls Royce of cables is probably this one: https://paracable.com

I went to the paracable website and they were out of stock on the one I want. How are the Anker Powerline Plus cable?

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I have absolutely 0 problems with one-way cables, NeutralFan, and wouldn't pay even a single additional dime for such feature were it to be an option.

All of you Apple users? Ouch! Not my cup of tea. @#$% closed systems and implied enforcements.

Paracable… overpriced. My custom No-frills USB to MicroUSB Heavy-duty Cat-5e 5+ft 1'5+m Charging/data Cable beats them all performance/price wise. 

 

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Venom wrote:
RollerBoySE wrote:
Also be aware that many USB cables use very thin wires, which does affect their ability to transfer high current, meaning that the charge time will be considerably longer. Anker, for example makes excellent cables. The Rolls Royce of cables is probably this one: https://paracable.com

I went to the paracable website and they were out of stock on the one I want. How are the Anker Powerline Plus cable?

Anker makes good cables.

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I have absolutely 0 problems with one-way cables, NeutralFan, and wouldn’t pay even a single additional dime for such feature were it to be an option.


All of you Apple users? Ouch! Not my cup of tea. @#$% closed systems and implied enforcements.


Paracable… overpriced. My custom No-frills USB to MicroUSB Heavy-duty Cat-5e 5+ft 1’5+m Charging/data Cable beats them all performance/price wise. 


 


Cheers 

Custom can always beat stock.

However:
I was sick and tired of having to replace my charging cables over and over again (since they break). So I tried Paracable and couldn’t be happier.

Paracables may be expensive (the profit margin is probably huge), but they really are built like a tank and will very likely outlive most other brands by a hefty margin (and thus pay for themselves by not having to be replaced). Charging is noticeably faster too and I don’t mind that they look good.

I use both Apple/Lightning and micro-USB (for different devices).

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fireblade893 wrote:
All micro USB leads will fit , however the charge rate will vary I have some cheap ones that will pull a max of 0.5A while a good on will pull 2.0A . Makes a big difference charging my BT speaker (Anker 3143) on that its 0.5A generic lead vs 1.5A Anker lead. Accordng to my Portapow USB power monitor.

I beg to differ. Have tested a lot of cables, and none of them show a drop in amps, even really really crappy ones.

They do have a voltage drop, maybe that is what's influencing your readings, making the device you're charging demand a lower current.

Using a device featuring charging circuitry isn't optimal for testing cables.

Regarding what brand to buy : I'm quite happy with the bang-for-buck factor of BlitzWolf's latest cables, tested a lot of them and they seem to be built pretty good and have low resistance.

If you want to know what cables I've tested, check the links in my sig.

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I beg to differ. Have tested a lot of cables, and none of them show a drop in amps, even really really crappy ones.

The cable do not change the current, but many phones and other devices will reduce the charge current when the voltage drops due to a crappy cable.

My website with reviews of many chargers and batteries (More than 1000): http://lygte-info.dk/

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