Acebeam's upcoming X80

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Don’t worry, pure flood with weak throw will underwhelm quickly, unless you dont have any other monster light, those larger XHP50 dies barely got anything to collect them.

Big flood is where it’s at after the thrill of big throw is gone

And then there’s also the universal law: lumens sell

Vinh’s lights sell, so obviously there is a market for lights with stupid high lumen values. I think Acebeam is doing something interesting by offering lights of this category as a main stream company.

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hIKARInoob wrote:
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Don’t worry, pure flood with weak throw will underwhelm quickly, unless you dont have any other monster light, those larger XHP50 dies barely got anything to collect them.

Big flood is where it’s at after the thrill of big throw is gone

And then there’s also the universal law: lumens sell

Vinh’s lights sell, so obviously there is a market for lights with stupid high lumen values. I think Acebeam is doing something interesting by offering lights of this category as a main stream company.

I am sure this flashlight will have it’s driver removed and fit in the 17mm direct drive from RMM/MTN wrapped in kapton tape to make it higher-end, because Vinh light baby.

I meant to say lights with under 25Kcd (guessing 20Kcd?) are underwhelming lights when they produce 25Klm, it is that much more floodier/spreadier/underwhelming for the amount of lumens.

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Hikelite wrote:
I meant to say lights with under 25Kcd (guessing 20Kcd?) are underwhelming lights when they produce 25Klm, it is that much more floodier/spreadier/underwhelming for the amount of lumens.

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Yeah I know what you mean. You need to have the right environment to benefit such output. Dense forest with super tall trees in a ~10 to 20 meter range will make the light shine. In an open environment you will be blinded by the spill in front of you while a large part of the lumens will be tossed in air making it useless.

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RobertB wrote:
Hikelite wrote:
Don’t worry, pure flood with weak throw will underwhelm quickly, unless you dont have any other monster light, those larger XHP50 dies barely got anything to collect them.

Big flood is where it’s at after the thrill of big throw is gone

i say potato

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hIKARInoob wrote:
Hikelite wrote:
I meant to say lights with under 25Kcd (guessing 20Kcd?) are underwhelming lights when they produce 25Klm, it is that much more floodier/spreadier/underwhelming for the amount of lumens.

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Yeah I know what you mean. You need to have the right environment to benefit such output. Dense forest with super tall trees in a ~10 to 20 meter range will make the light shine. In an open environment you will be blinded by the spill in front of you while a large part of the lumens will be tossed in air making it useless.

Quote: “…In an open environment you will be blinded by the spill in front of you while a large part of the lumens will be tossed in air making it useless.”

Yes, true, correct, succinct and well said. I agree that most of the light is tossed away from where it can be of use, and the close in glare makes viewing anything impossible. I have several legacy lesser flooders that do this not quite on such a grand scale. I do not need the current offering that does this in the biggest way.

I want the current offering that does this in the biggest way.

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I’m in LOVE!!!!!!!!

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seery wrote:
I’m in LOVE!!!!!!!!

!http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy168/seeryky/0049513_x80_630_zpsdosc...!

Have you heard anymore about it seery, like specs?

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Nothing more than what’s been posted over on Taschenlampen.

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$300.

I was way off. Great value for lumens compared to a couple of their previous high powered lights.

The low mode should be lower.

Reviews: Efan IMR18350 700mAh 10.5A, <a href="http://

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Great output for 300 dollar! And I like the size, the design and the colour led option. In the picture in post #2 I do not see a 233A though, must be a picture of a prototype.

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$300 sounded like a great value until I realized all those 22000 floody lumens were at a nasty 6500K.

The low mode should be lower.

Reviews: Efan IMR18350 700mAh 10.5A, <a href="http://

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$300 sounded like a great value until I realized all those 22000 floody lumens were at a nasty 6500K.
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leaftye wrote:
$300 sounded like a great value until I realized all those 22000 floody lumens were at a nasty 6500K.

Pretty much standard procedure or not? Perhaps there will be a NW version as well, just like with the X45.

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Acebeam has just updated the X80 page.

The output has been increased from 22,000 to 25,000 lumens.

And it’s rated for underwater to 30 meters.

This is getting exciting!

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seery wrote:
Acebeam has just updated the X80 page.

The output has been increased from 22,000 to 25,000 lumens.

And it’s rated for underwater to 30 meters.

This is getting exciting!

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Now if the next light could ditch the useless leds and add some throwers in the middle instead

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Acebeam has just updated the X80 page to include specs, UI, pics, etc.,.

For a light with so much going on, the UI looks amazingly simple and intuitive.

Acebeam X80

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seery wrote:
Acebeam has just updated the X80 page to include specs, UI, pics, etc.,.

For a light with so much going on, the UI looks amazingly simple and intuitive.

“Acebeam X80”:http://www.acebeam.com/x80

Thank you for the updated News seery! I see now, that this will run at 4000lm, for 1.5 hours. That is tough to beat in this industry, and becoming standard operating procedure for Acebeam. CoolThumbs Up

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I see now, that this will run at 4000lm, for 1.5 hours. That is tough to beat in this industry, and becoming standard operating procedure for Acebeam. CoolThumbs Up

True that!

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Yes 25000 lumens and 299 USD

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O YES IT DOES.

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Yes 25000 lumens and 299 USD

Can this light use with x65 battery pack?? I am sure it can.. what do you guys think?

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Some update pictures of X80.
I was going to order Nitecore SRT 9: but, I decide to hold after I see the photos.




Best of all, no more green tint like X45

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Looks great. Thanks for the pics.

Is the battery carrier making that ring on the head or is that machined like that?

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I like the exhaust vent on it. And it’s a lot smaller than I thought.

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This looks like something someone at BLF would custom build for fun, not something I’d expect to see commercially-produced. 25k lumens, only 1.1 cd / lm, and only one minute at a time on the highest mode. It’s like a flash bulb — very very bright in a wide area for a short time. For comparison, the Meteor is often considered pretty floody… and it gets 4.5 cd / lm. Its beam is four times as focused as the X80.

Would probably be pretty useful for photography, but I’m not sure when else I’d need so many lumens at such a short distance.

It’s not exactly a light bulb either though… those are more like 0.1 cd / lm, or maybe 0.2-0.3 cd / lm when used in a directional lamp.

At the other end of the spectrum, there’s the BLF GT. It only emits 10% as many lumens, but the beam is 46 times as intense with ~500 cd / lm. Useless for up-close tasks but great for seeing things far away.

Not really sure what to make of the X80.

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Here are a bunch more pics and beam shots.

Acebeam X80 picture gallery

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Thanks TK for the cd/lm number calculations, very insightful!

Weird enough I’m very much attracted to the X80, not because of the output but because it just looks really good. Smile

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To add to the cd/lm discussion: lm/cd (the reciprocal of cd/lm) is an approximate measure of the beam area (solid angle), and so the square root of the lm/cd ratio is a measure of the angular beam width.

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ToyKeeper wrote:
Not really sure what to make of the X80.

lumens/(mm^3)

(it’s a guy thing, hehe?)

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