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Soldering gear thread

This was started in the Q8 thread, but it was suggested that it be discussed in it’s own thread so as not to get buried among a gazillion posts. Good idea The Miller!

Ultimately the discussion lead me to retry to find the old style Sal Ammoniac tip cleaning block. I had some time and tried finding it on Amazon and Ebay. I was successful and have no idea why I wasn’t successful in the past. It came right up. On ebay I got a 1lb block for under $20 shipped. Amazon was 2x the price for an 8 oz block. There were 4oz blocks also but I despise paying just as much to ship an item as to buy it inexpensively. I’ll never misplace a 1# block of it.

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Nice!
Saw some interesting things
I use a cheap copper/brass sponge thing to clean tips.

And just look at this beauty;

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This is mine new soldering station. In fact 2 separate stations – hot-air gun (above) and soldering iron with T12 tips (below).
Each around 45-55USD + shipping. Came as a DIY set so have spent few days assembling each box.

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Can you please post a link to the stuff Brian… I’ve never heard of it, but might just give it try.
Thanks for sharing this… Smile

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The Miller wrote:
Nice!
Saw some interesting things
I use a cheap copper/brass sponge thing to clean tips.

And just look at this beauty;

strango wrote:
This is mine new soldering station. In fact 2 separate stations – hot-air gun (above) and soldering iron with T12 tips (below).
Each around 45-55USD + shipping. Came as a DIY set so have spent few days assembling each box.

That does look good. Have you got a link for it??

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this is the latest product I bought and use, has amazing build quality for the price and has been running for a couple months now. LED reflowing is super easy with it, takes only seconds.

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teacher wrote:
The Miller wrote:
Nice!
Saw some interesting things
I use a cheap copper/brass sponge thing to clean tips.

And just look at this beauty;

strango wrote:
This is mine new soldering station. In fact 2 separate stations – hot-air gun (above) and soldering iron with T12 tips (below).
Each around 45-55USD + shipping. Came as a DIY set so have spent few days assembling each box.

That does look good. Have you got a link for it??

Sure.
Will post links and answer any questions in 1 hour (right now I have no access to my PC so browsing from mobile phone)
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Thank you. No rush at all… just when you have time. Smile

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MILSPEC wrote:
this is the latest product I bought and use, has amazing build quality for the price and has been running for a couple months now. LED reflowing is super easy with it, takes only seconds.

It does indeed look quite nice. Please forgive the stupid question but do you blow air on the LEDs or below the MCPCB? And is there anything you can’t do with one of those that you can do with an iron? I’m looking to replace my old underpowered iron and I’m not sure yet if I should go for a soldering station or hot air. I don’t really do enough soldering to justify having both. Just some occasional flashlight assembly and toy repair, although I would eventually like to put together a driver or two from scratch.
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Can we get more info on the hot air station? I use a spare soldering iron but a hot air station might be nice.

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@ fixed it
If you only want to get one station go and get an iron. You can do more with it. The hotair is nice to have. Its easy to desolder things with a hotair and reflowing a driver with a hotair is also nice. But most drivers could also be put together with a iron. The hotair makes things easyer sometimes.
I got a cheap one (YOUYUE 858D+ ~40$) and then i got a new mcu with complete new firmware (http://blog.spitzenpfeil.org/wordpress/projects/youyue-858d-hotair-stati...). Makes it a lot more save and presize. The standart cheap china hotair could easy overshot 50°c and more. With the new chip (if i remember right it was ~15€) this is all gone.

Cheap bare 385nm UV LED (http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54674)

Q8 Dual footprint, quad LED copper DTP LEDboard interest List (http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54758)

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Can we get a link to yours MILSPEC? Thanks…. Smile

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fixed it wrote:
MILSPEC wrote:
this is the latest product I bought and use, has amazing build quality for the price and has been running for a couple months now. LED reflowing is super easy with it, takes only seconds.
It does indeed look quite nice. Please forgive the stupid question but do you blow air on the LEDs or below the MCPCB? And is there anything you can’t do with one of those that you can do with an iron? I’m looking to replace my old underpowered iron and I’m not sure yet if I should go for a soldering station or hot air. I don’t really do enough soldering to justify having both. Just some occasional flashlight assembly and toy repair, although I would eventually like to put together a driver or two from scratch.

You can get both a iron 30watt can be had for $5 and a hot air gun for $8 online

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You can get both a iron 30watt can be had for $5 and a hot air gun for $8 online
Guys…. please post some links to these good deals you know about and are mentioning, as well as the things you use and like. That way we can check them out & know for sure we are looking at what you mentioned.

Thanks in advance. Smile

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Well
some background at first.
I did not use my soldering staff often so had only cheap Chinese iron with solid cooper tip for a long.
Then I was presented with Yihua 939d

The price was about 30USD.
It was much better that previous. But still not as good as I expected. And after some research I desided to go for T12 soldering irons

After maybe 6 months I caught flash sale for Bakon BK950D

For about 14USD it was must have.
There were still some issues with usability (buttons was definitely not the best solution there) and performance (less powerfull that stated 75W). But still it was better than 939d.

The only thing I did not owe was hor airgun. And as far as i was about to build several custom drivers for SRK I started looking for it.

While searching I’ve found few very inspiring reviews on STM32 based soldering stations from taobao.

At first it was story about bying DIY set with 0.96 inch OLED scren
https://mysku.ru/blog/taobao/45851.html
Then story about upgrade to 1.3 inch screen
https://mysku.ru/blog/taobao/48640.html
And finally STM32 based airgun controller
https://mysku.ru/blog/taobao/48863.html
The latest one is 2in1 iron/airgun controller but all agreed that it is not the best choice now, way too expensive. And it is better to have 2 separate stations.
https://mysku.ru/blog/taobao/51866.html

You can follow the links and check photos and/or use google translator to read some ysefull info.

I’ll try to put main info in a nutshell:


Soldering Iron:
- price is about 45USD + shipping for complete set (controller board, psu, box, soldering iron…)
- AL box ~150х88х38mm
- stm32 based controller board
- 72W+ PSU
- T12 handle
- OLED screen
A lot of features:
- temperatures 150÷480 ℃
- Cold junction compensation 9÷99 ℃
- PID temp control
- standby, sleep, boost mode
- temp 3 point calibration for your tips
- tips databases with presets
- clock
- buzzer
- screensaver lol

Hot airgun:
- price is about 50USD + shipping for complete set (controller+psu board, box, airgun handle…)
- AL box ~150х88х38mm
- stm32 based controller board with integrated PSU
- airgun handle + stand with magnet sensors
- OLED screen
The list of features is more short:
- temperatures 100÷550 ℃
- airflow 20-100%
- Cold junction compensation
- temp control
- 5 presets + manual controls
- standby mode
- timer
- buzzer
- screensaver

Overall impression is very good for both.

Some links for iron tip:
controller board + screen https://world.taobao.com/item/529249246589.htm
power socket https://world.taobao.com/item/536927327500.htm
box with front and rear panels https://world.taobao.com/item/539392658616.htm
finished t12 handle https://world.taobao.com/item/543586547794.htm
dont have link for psu but there are a lot that would fit.

Can be also ordered on aliexpress but price is much higher there.

Fel free to ask any as I do not know what migh be interesting for you about that staff.
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Wow!!! Thank you strango, that is some good info ….
….. with plenty of detail too! Smile .. I appreciate that. Thumbs Up

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Here is some of my soldering/desoldering gear

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Looking good abtglenn….. Thumbs Up

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Looking good abtglenn….. Thumbs Up

Thanks my friend. Pictured is:

Hakko FX-888D soldering station
Hakko FX-901 battery powered soldering iron
Hakko 808 desoldering tool
Weller WESD51 soldering station
Weller WM 120 12 watt soldering iron
Weller 100P 100 watt temperature controlled soldering iron
Sparkfun 808D hot air SMD rework station.

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Looking good abtglenn….. Thumbs Up
Thanks my friend. Pictured is:

Hakko FX-888D soldering station
Hakko FX-901 battery powered soldering iron
Hakko 808 desoldering tool
Weller WESD51 soldering station
Weller WM 120 12 watt soldering iron
Weller 100P 100 watt temperature controlled soldering iron
Sparkfun 808D hot air SMD rework station.

Sure thing Glenn.

From the looks of that I’d guess you are either addicted to soldering equipment or do a lot of soldering. Shocked

My pick would be the latter… a lot of soldering. Thumbs Up .. Smile

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teacher wrote:
atbglenn wrote:
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Looking good abtglenn….. Thumbs Up
Thanks my friend. Pictured is:

Hakko FX-888D soldering station
Hakko FX-901 battery powered soldering iron
Hakko 808 desoldering tool
Weller WESD51 soldering station
Weller WM 120 12 watt soldering iron
Weller 100P 100 watt temperature controlled soldering iron
Sparkfun 808D hot air SMD rework station.

Sure thing Glenn.

From the looks of that I’d guess you are either addicted to soldering equipment or do a lot of soldering. Shocked

My pick would be the latter… a lot of soldering. Thumbs Up .. Smile

I’ve been building audio kits since the late 60’s. Most of it professionally working as a technician in a stereo store, and then working in the printing industry fixing DC motor controllers and control circuits. I’ve been retired since 2013. Since then, I’m not as active a I used to be. I still fix tubed audio equipment on occassion. Mostly for myself and a few freinds.

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That would explain it then……. Wink … Thanks again for sharing, you have some nice equipment.

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Thanks again my friend. I’m still active and love the latest equipment. One thing I need to do is get a scope. It’s the one thing I haven’t had in my personal arsenal in all these years.

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I’ve been building audio kits since the late 60’s. Most of it professionally working as a technician in a stereo store, and then working in the printing industry fixing DC motor controllers and control circuits. I’ve been retired since 2013. Since then, I’m not as active a I used to be. I still fix tubed audio equipment on occassion. Mostly for myself and a few freinds.[/quote]

Now your talking—Tube Audio Gear—I use to be heavy into Vacuum Tubes —Still have a Dynaco 70—Citation V and a pair of 845 SET amps—Bottlehead preamp——nothing better

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I’ve been building audio kits since the late 60’s. Most of it professionally working as a technician in a stereo store, and then working in the printing industry fixing DC motor controllers and control circuits. I’ve been retired since 2013. Since then, I’m not as active a I used to be. I still fix tubed audio equipment on occassion. Mostly for myself and a few freinds.

Now your talking—Tube Audio Gear—I use to be heavy into Vacuum Tubes —Still have a Dynaco 70—Citation V and a pair of 845 SET amps—Bottlehead preamp——nothing better[/quote]

My first kit was Dynaco MKIII 60 watt mono power amp and a PAM 1 Pre-amp I built to use as a bass guitar amp around 1969. I later built 2 Dynaco Stereo 70’s and a PAS 3X preamp. Then I went on to build several Heathkit’s. The list goes on and on. I still use tubed audio equipment these days. Solid state doesn’t come close sonically.

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Albeit I've had an early heater failure (don't really know if no tight fitting low quality aftermarket tips may have played a role there), these work nicely if you invest in some genuine T18 or new old stock 900M tips:

 

 

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atbglenn wrote:
Here is some of my soldering/desoldering gear

!{width:90%}http://i.imgur.com/SWaZz67.jpg!

What is that clear device on the right of the picture sitting in front of the hobby charger?

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Here is some of my soldering/desoldering gear

What is that clear device on the right of the picture sitting in front of the hobby charger?

Indeed it looks like a battery holder.

 

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Here is some of my soldering/desoldering gear

!{width:90%}http://i.imgur.com/SWaZz67.jpg!

What is that clear device on the right of the picture sitting in front of the hobby charger?

It’s an adjustable battery cradle I got from fasttech a while back.

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http://www.ebay.ca/usr/playtle

This is the user/shop I bought the portable hot air from, the model I purchased is no longer in the shop (or not available in the market I searched a moment ago, you could search through ebay Germany, UK, US etc – it might show up). AFAIK the price was 36.00 EUR purchased through the Canadian ebay checkout process. The power module does 110V/220V, however the handle does either 110V or 220V (need to select handle when purchasing).

If you want only one station I would confirm what was said above – either go for a single soldering iron or a combo unit (hot air and soldering iron). I needed a second station for travel or moving around and as a backup.

The temperate setting is very accurate and there is less risk of burning parts. Last LED reflow took literally seconds, I have never done it that quickly.

Only the “chirp” (confirmation tone when you press a key) is not great, the tone changes whenever I press something. Otherwise great unit. Perfect for reflowing emitters, driver boards, PCBs, other projects, heat shrink, working on my car or anything else.

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Thank you MILSPEC, I appreciate the effort & info. . Thumbs Up .. Smile

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The Bakon BK950D looks interesting strango, I’d like to have one of those for the portability of it. But so far all I have been able to find is the 220V version.
I am gonna keep looking though. Wink

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