Narsil M Cheat Sheet NEW VERSION

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Narsil M Cheat Sheet NEW VERSION

Hello everyone,

I tried to shoehorn Tom E’s Narsil manual in a table. 
It’s called Narsil M Cheat Sheet and you can download the PDF from this Google Drive page.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0v3MZNiBWcDQmpwRjRyRFp5SFk

the short link is:
http://bit.ly/narsil-cs

Feedback is appriciated. Is it easy to understand? Anything unclear? Opinions?

Please check for errors, I don’t have a lamp running Narsil, so I couldn’t test it and Tom is quite busy.

I won’t explain the cheat sheet in this post, because I want to know from you if it’s self explaining. 

When most of it is fine I can post this in the Q8 thread. Done

Thanks
Joechina

EDIT:

  • There is a new cheat sheet for NarsilM v1.0 (for Q8 Rev. B) Narsil M Cheat Sheet 2017-10-25 from
    http://bit.ly/narsil-cs
    Changes:
    - The cheat sheet has now the same values for mode groups as the operation manual that came with the Q8.
    - The ? Instead of ° (degree sign) seems to be a glitch on a chinese computer.
    - A sentence below the pictures.
    - A few words about how to set temperature step down.
    There is a new notes section:
    - Added examples how to click
    - Link to JasonWW’s videos
  • The version *Narsil M Cheat Sheet 2017-07-20 *
    is the version sent to thorfire
  • I made a new version *Narsil M Cheat Sheet 2017-07-19 *
    The edits are only on the first page
    - with corrected links
    - and added how to switch off the indicator light.
    The sheet is on the same Google folder, but it has now a bit.ly link
    NarsilCheat Sheet (PDF): http://bit.ly/narsil-cs
Edited by: joechina on 10/24/2017 - 20:11
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Dude, that is slick! Really want to get my hands on a Q8, sounds like it will happen soon!

EDC rotation:
Convoy S2+, 6*7135, XM-L2 3D, 10 degree TIR, PilotDog lighted tailcap.
Convoy S2+, H17F, XM-L2 4C, lighted tailcap
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Olight S1A
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Wow very nice Joe!
Let’s ask Thorfire to print this at 95% landscape and put it in the box for it has links to the important BLF posts and threads and a clear overview
Awesome, thanks so much!

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Nice, thanks!
Got it working, it took changing the printer setting to A4 (it appeared to be in USletter for some reason) and then front and back aligned almost perfectly. Smile I will store it in the Q8.

Note to self: always bring your reading glasses when using the Q8 Smile

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@djozz
Whoo, looking good.

I don’t why you had letter format, mine is everything in A4.

I don’t know if it fits, maybe you need verry thin paper.

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Cool, I’ve added this to the others

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joechina wrote:
@djozz
Whoo, looking good.

I don’t why you had letter format, mine is everything in A4.

I don’t know if it fits, maybe you need verry thin paper.


Thickness of the stack that I made is 1.6 mm. I will have a look at home tonight how well it fits, but it feels thin enough Smile
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Thickness of the pack is 1.6mm, the space in the rear of the Q8 proto3 is 2.2 mm. So it fits! Smile :

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Wauw!
That is great!

Also neat that owners can write phone Nr and email on it, ready for a BLF meeting Smile

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Thanks djozz for the video and testing!

I guess that’s a unique feature for a flashlight Smile

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Are there BLFers using the latest Narsil version who can check this?
Would be awesome for it is about time to email Barry the to be printed manuals.

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I can’t check any info contained on the cheat sheet, but nicely done on the actual cheat sheet!

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Awesome manual now it is time for Q8.

Man i wished it could happen, imagine a BLF gathering but i am living too far away. How many lumens in total if we switch on all the lights we have at the gathering

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Wauw!
That is great!

Also neat that owners can write phone Nr and email on it, ready for a BLF meeting Smile

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Probably a lot! I EDC probably 4k lumens. But for special occasions I bring bigger lights.

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Whew. This could be a new competitive maze-type game.

Starting off at one setting — find the minimum number of clicks to end up at a different setting.

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Hello,
I need proofreaders.
I hope the new notes help to start with NarsilM.

I edited the OP:

There is a new cheat sheet for
NarsilM v1.0 (for Q8 Rev. B) Narsil M Cheat Sheet 2017-10-25 from
http://bit.ly/narsil-cs
Changes:
- The cheat sheet has now the same values for mode groups as the operation manual that came with the Q8.
- The ? Instead of ° (degree sign) seems to be a glitch on a chinese computer.
- A sentence below the pictures.
- A few words about how to set temperature step down.
There is a new notes section:
- Added examples how to click
- Link to JasonWW’s videos

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I feel like the dumbest guy alive. I can’t figure out how to program from ramp to modes. I’ve read the directions 20x and I know I’m missing something simple

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msg1285 wrote:
I feel like the dumbest guy alive. I can’t figure out how to program from ramp to modes. I’ve read the directions 20x and I know I’m missing something simple

Hold down the switch for about 8 seconds until the light flashes. When it does click the button one time and it will disable ramping or two times to enable it. After you do this hold down the button til the light shuts off. Don’t worry about what the light is doing(flashing or whatever) just keep to this direction and it should change for you.

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It appears I am the only one that is going to say this, but I decided not to buy a flashlight with Narsil now that I have seen this. Honest.

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msg1285 wrote:
I feel like the dumbest guy alive. I can’t figure out how to program from ramp to modes. I’ve read the directions 20x and I know I’m missing something simple

I show going from ramping to mode sets and then back again in my video.

https://youtu.be/xrwP3gG0I_A

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

6 NarsilM user videos
http://bit.ly/narsil-vid1

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Joshk wrote:
It appears I am the only one that is going to say this, but I decided not to buy a flashlight with Narsil now that I have seen this. Honest.

Seen what?

Once you try Narsil you will want all your lights to have it. It’s a simple ramping up and down. Just leave everything at default levels and enjoy. Lol

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

6 NarsilM user videos
http://bit.ly/narsil-vid1

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Cool... Thanks...

 

Believe it or not mine printed out correctly the first try lol... Even I didn't expect that as my printer skills change with each printer model upgrade.

 

Thanks again. 

Terry White

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msg1285 wrote:
I can’t figure out how to program from ramp to modes.

Hm, have you an idea where you get stucked?

Switch from RAMPING to MODES
(you hold for a long time, if you ramp down it’s easier on the eyes)
- hold for 8sec,
- after two short blinks and one blink, — do a single click (1x).
- The lamp continues to blink out configuration for MODES.

(Basically it is holding the button till it blinks 2x and 1x and than a double click shuts RAMPING on.
Or a single click shuts it off.)

- Now you can wait till the lamp is gone through the rest of the config menu.
- The lamp will blink four times short when finished.

Or if you don’t want to wait you do a click and hold till the lamp blinks four times.

Sorry, I can’t explain it better.

If you tackle the hurdle can you please report back what the problem was?

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LightRider wrote:

… When it does click the button two times and it will disable ramping or one time to enable it. After you do this hold down the button til the light shuts off. Don’t worry about what the light is doing(flashing or whatever) just keep to this direction and it should change for you.

Can you please edit the typo?
two clicks enables ramping

And thanks for the help here in the thread!!
Can you tell me why you get the stuff and others have so a hard time?

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joechina wrote:
LightRider wrote:

… When it does click the button two times and it will disable ramping or one time to enable it. After you do this hold down the button til the light shuts off. Don’t worry about what the light is doing(flashing or whatever) just keep to this direction and it should change for you.

Can you please edit the typo?
two clicks enables ramping

And thanks for the help here in the thread!!
Can you tell me why you get the stuff and others have so a hard time?

Oops. It’s fixed:)

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JoeChina,

I think one thing that would make the cheat sheet easier to read would be to make one section of it for ramping and another for discrete modes.There is a LOT of information that needs to be communicated in there, but when I’m in ramping, I don’t care in the least about what clicks do in discrete mode, and vice versa.

I’m willing to take a stab at it, do I recall that there is a link somewhere with non PDF version of the data you have compiled?

PS – one typo I did see was in the tip of the the hat to me (thank you) re the larger rolled version – only 1 ‘z’ in Lazy-R-us Big Smile

Lazy-R-us

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JasonWW wrote:
Joshk wrote:
It appears I am the only one that is going to say this, but I decided not to buy a flashlight with Narsil now that I have seen this. Honest.

Seen what?

Once you try Narsil you will want all your lights to have it. It’s a simple ramping up and down. Just leave everything at default levels and enjoy. Lol

I simply love the Q8 UI the way it comes out of the box. Yes, it can take a little playing with it to learn the length of press to turn on or off. I had more of an issue with finding off at first. I absolutely love the ramping and the simple way to change direction. I love it so much I have not bothered to explore the discrete modes option.

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joechina is it you intention that in your latest cheat sheet only version 1.0 is listet under Overview Click Sequences?

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lichtpfadfinder wrote:

joechina is it you intention that in your latest cheat sheet only version 1.0 is listed under Overview Click Sequences?


Yes, I’m sure. This thread is from July 2017.

Wait, I think I see your confusion. You are mixing up the older Narsil with the newer NarsilM.

Lots of people confuse them because they don’t notice the M on the end. (Blame Tom E for the similar names. I think it was his doing. Silly )

The latest version is currently NarsilM v1.0.

NarsilM v1.2 is being tested currently and will be out soon.

My Convoy L6 thread with XHP70.2, Texas Avenger FET driver, Narsil v1.2 ramping firmware, lighted side switch and cut down SMO reflector. Lots of amp draws on stock driver as well.
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54477

My Supfire L5-S thread with XHP70, Texas Avenger FET driver, NarsilM v1.0 ramping firmware and lighted side switch. My mini L6! http://budgetlightforum.com/node/55746

6 NarsilM user videos
http://bit.ly/narsil-vid1

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