Any one know the Zanflare B3 bike light

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Any one know the Zanflare B3 bike light

Who get it? ZF claimed that it has a new tech/design in this industry. Who know the details?

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I saw that a couple of days ago, while it looks interesting there is no mention of battery type at all. I can’t see either a charging port or a way to get the battery out. Can’t be enough space for an 18650, too much power for something smaller, so must be either multiple smaller batteries or a rechargeable pack?

Don’t see a charging cable in the box either, seems to be a bit of a mystery?

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yah, 63 USD is not cheap. Really want to have to try.

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Yep, let’s get a group buy going!

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huh

i have seen similar designs (thorfire 2 led) appear waterproof but are not (gasket around LEDs leaks or is not there)

battery is probably the 4×18650 2S2P style – which are never waterproof unless they cost more than this

best blinky mode (which they may not have) would be the ‘bike strobe mode’ from BLF A6/Astrolux S1 and others

bike lights frequently get overheated (thorfire) even with fins, either when you are stopped, or if you try to use them on sunny days

it;s way too expensive – especially if it does have the faults i am “pre-reviewing” (guessing) above

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Also are those emitters cool white , warm white, or neutral white?
I like how the Go-pro mount is integral to the housing.

It is a deal beaker for me without a quality battery pack and charger.

I could buy the NightFighter BT40s from Gearbest without a battery pack for much less

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bike lights usually go for brightest and cheapest, meaning cool to very cool..

if that is a go pro mount, it is because bike lights used this o-ring plus half round bracket approach for years

is it just me or does all the zanflare stuff seem too expensive for what it actually is?

there are TONS of decent bike lights for $20 already, on amazon (fast shipping) and with battery packs (which you may have to waterproof yourself by sealing in a plastic bag)

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wle wrote:
bike lights frequently get overheated (thorfire) even with fins, either when you are stopped, or if you try to use them on sunny days

Ummm, wait…

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you would use them in the day time as strobe warning lights, that can use up to half the full-power capability of the light, it has no way to request any other power level.. and it can be enough to overheat the light when riding or still, on a sunny day.

it just depends.

but yes it is possible and desirable to use a bike light during the day time.

i do it frequently.

and i have a thorfire 2-led light that does get very hot, it was free [review sample] and i have another light, so i don;t worry too much about it, but also it didn;t cost $75 sans battery, or whatever this is.

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Zanflare, legitimate questions asked about the batteries. Can you please talk about it?

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i’m guessing they know and don;t care..

he’s already said they didn;t test in the day time, or that it seems unimportant to him, mr zanflare

what about in still air (at night, presumably)?

does it require a certain air flow and ambient temp to not overheat?

wle

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Probably an external multi 18650 pack. No way any decent batteries fit the light itself.

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maukka wrote:
Probably an external multi 18650 pack. No way any decent batteries fit the light itself.

Can’t be, photos on the website show the box contents, no external battery pack.

Beam me up!

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zanflare. your light looks ‘pretty’ but, the advertisement appeals to the average consumer, and not to us, in here, who have a more thorough understanding of what makes a good light. I see that no run times have been posted. Is there any particular reason why? Does the light use a case in which we insert our own cells or does is use a pre-built pack? (The second photo, in the horizontal bar, below the first pic on the webpage, shows what looks like a cord, coming from the back of the light.) Does this light have an ‘integrated shelf’?

Your lights in general, seem to be built well so I expect this light to be decent however, that price is a little questionable.
Thanks for your info.

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This looks like what began life as the “MTBR Custom Light” built to MTBR forum user’s requested specs. See the original thread here (I believe a similar thread was posted on BLF a long time ago too). In post #566 of that thread we were informed that GearBest dropped our project. This looks to me like they picked up what they had created for us (the body design) and threw something together in order to sell it. Lots of differences between our MTBR requested specs and this light.

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I am very interested in this bike light, but the price may not be right for mecool

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hmmmmm … has anyone at Gearbest spoken up about this?

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$63 without battery pack is a bit steep for me.
I have used Fenix BT20 before, at least they have battery container included.

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I have a couple of questions for you (Zanflare).

1) When are we going to be able to buy this light?

2) Please clarify if I am understanding the UI correctly. The light has 3 modes (1, 2, or 3 emitters operating at the same time) and there is a low, med, and high power setting in each of these modes + a special mode for flash/strobe/SOS, is this correct? Also curious how the buttons are operated to access these modes/power settings.

 

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How to operate? We will upload a introduction video

Please provide the information as plain text too.

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It’s too expensive.
It needs to include batteries.

Why does an established company need a crowdfunding?

You need a native English speaker, if you are going to try to sell to English speaking countries.
That would be part of being a world class company, trying to sell expensive products.
It’s part of ‘service’.

ALL your language is confusing and awkward.
(Yes, everything I have ever read by you guys.)

(The accent on the video is TERRIBLE. It’s like Borat.)

borat

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Honestly it’s not too expensive IF it truly is a quality product AND has a warranty. You’re going to have a very hard time finding a light with these features at this brightness level that is a quality reliable product as a lighthead only under about $100 (note: I still don’t like the 1LED-2LED-3LED “feature”). Over at MTBR our pool of “budget” lights to recommend is very small. I’m talking lights that are reliable for mountain bikers bombing down fast descents that need a light guaranteed not to quit after hitting a few bumps. The current most highly recommended bang for the buck are the Ituo lights. (Notice those light head only options start at over $100.) This Zanflare is supposed to be direct competition but at a more budget friendly price point (the original goal of the MTBR custom light build).

Battery packs – we already have quality Panasonic cell packs available from KD. As you can see, adding a battery pack really boosts up the cost! There is NO WAY you are going to get a quality triple LED bike light suitable for mountain biking with battery pack at this lighthead only price.

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huh.

i’m just a road bike dude.

probably less stressful than mt bike riding
the $25 ones work for me Smile (plus if the light fails, you can usually ride at night slowly with streetlights and whatnot. i also have an EDC light in my pocket.)

at least the lights work until the batteries start fading.

then i get a whole new light and battery pack
i am on number 3 now on about 7 years.

currently i’m using a thorfire double led one they sent for review (but i had to waterproof it myself, they left out the main gasket)

and the battery pack is not waterproof, the cheap ones never are, but you can stick it in a plastic bag with just the wire coming out.

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garrybunk wrote:
Honestly it’s not too expensive IF it truly is a quality product AND has a warranty. You’re going to have a very hard time finding a light with these features at this brightness level that is a quality reliable product as a lighthead only under about $100 (note: I still don’t like the 1LED-2LED-3LED “feature”). Over at MTBR our pool of “budget” lights to recommend is very small. I’m talking lights that are reliable for mountain bikers bombing down fast descents that need a light guaranteed not to quit after hitting a few bumps. The current most highly recommended bang for the buck are the Ituo lights. (Notice those light head only options start at over $100.) This Zanflare is supposed to be direct competition but at a more budget friendly price point (the original goal of the MTBR custom light build).

Battery packs – we already have quality Panasonic cell packs available from KD. As you can see, adding a battery pack really boosts up the cost! There is NO WAY you are going to get a quality triple LED bike light suitable for mountain biking with battery pack at this lighthead only price.

-Garry

i’m also skeptical of these zanflare guys.
their advertising and specs indicate to me, more marketing hype than engineering smarts or technical skill
just an opinion.
i think they are marketing something that looks good, pretends to be good, is expensive, MAY actually be good, but i would have to see it.
nothing that they have presented to the public convinces me
maybe they have good engineers, who don;t write the marketing blurbs
or the videos
or maybe it is just a language problem
again, i would have to be convinced.

which is also hard because i like the $25 solution already.

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about warranties:

i just had a manker light fail, and manker said ‘sorry, you bought that from gearbest or fasttech, they are not authorized dealers and do not have after sale service’.

so how was gearbest or fasttech able to sell them, if not buying from manker?

just saying – it;s another loophole they can crawl through

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Zanflare wrote:
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wle wrote:
bike lights frequently get overheated (thorfire) even with fins, either when you are stopped, or if you try to use them on sunny days

Ummm, wait…

Yes, common bike lights frequently get overheated. So our design aims to improve this issue. The heat dissipation ability of B3 is much better than other bike lights.

Naw, I expressed puzzlement and even bewilderment at using a light on bright sunny days. Shocked

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puzzlement and even bewilderment at using a light on bright sunny days

Because automobile drivers, between their cellphones and their other distractions, can’t see pedestrians or bicyclists reliably. Or each other.

I carry and use a flashlight with a “bike strobe” setting just as a pedestrian — and I turn it on before stepping into the crosswalk because if some nitwit comes around a corner fast I won’t have time to fiddle around finding the right setting on the flashlight. I’ve brought several automobiles to screeching halts because I refused to run out of the crosswalk when they’re expecting me to. Too old for that BS.

Same applies for bicyclists. They need to be attention-getting.

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Notice how Zanflare has skirted by the issue of whether or not this light is the product of the MTBR custom build (not entirely to MTBR specs, but very similar)? I was chosen to be the reviewer of the light and was close to receiving a sample when the project was abandoned.

-Garry

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Zanflare wrote:
Lightbringer wrote:
Zanflare wrote:
Lightbringer wrote:
wle wrote:
bike lights frequently get overheated (thorfire) even with fins, either when you are stopped, or if you try to use them on sunny days

Ummm, wait…

Yes, common bike lights frequently get overheated. So our design aims to improve this issue. The heat dissipation ability of B3 is much better than other bike lights.

Naw, I expressed puzzlement and even bewilderment at using a light on bright sunny days. Shocked

I am also confused by Mr wle.

zanflare – it is simple – i am a potential CUSTOMER – one of my APPLICATIONS is to use the light in the day time – you do not need to know why – if you do not support that, you lose a sale

and possibly other sales as well

(i also gave a reason for day time use, which was not confusing to an english language reader, if you care to go back and read, maybe have it translated.)

may we assume your light will not work in day time?

(since you prefer to disrespect my question, rather than provide an actual answer)

wle

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dont want to be a wet rag but it looks a lot like generic 2 or 3 emitter heads that sell for teens or at worst 20’s of dollars.

just saying.

there are plenty of bike lights under $25 dollars.

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Yes, that is what I like, actually, the $25 ones, I just use them for 2-3 years til batteries fail then get another, or fix the batteries.

$25 all day long on amazon.

With batteries.

I’ve had at least 3 of these and the light/switch unit never fails, just the batteries. Even so they last 3-4 years, several hundred charges.

So there are not reliability issues really with them.

$25.

And you can use the strobe in the day time (apparently, they get hot but have never failed).
Zanflare won’t say if theirs works in the day time or not.
They would rather pooh-pooh the question and asker [me].

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