Steel EDC AA XP-G3 from Ali ? (Amutorch S3)

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Steel EDC AA XP-G3 from Ali ? (Amutorch S3)

Does anyone know this model ?

It seems to be really compact with only 17mm in diameter and 88mm in length.
Basic L-M-H boost driver, SS tail clicky and TIR optic, on paper this is a great light for 18$ !

EDIT : Mascaratum B did a review and it seems to be a winner Smile

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It looks like a Convoy clip.

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looks decent, and cheap, small.

they don;t show beam pattern or color though.

or lumens for L M and H

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I got 3 on the way! 2 bought, 1 as an offer! They may arrive next week, I hope!
When I get them I can make a “sort” of review. Not that technical, of course Big Smile
But for the comments on their store, it seems to be a nice light!
A similar model is/was sold in Amazon, I guess, but this seems to be better and made by a “professional” company! The other lights on their store are quite nice too!

EDIT: I asked the seller if they take 14500 batteries, and the answer was “No”! However, a buyer mentioned he was using 14500 batteries without burning the driver! So…this may be a really nice deal, if one can use them with AA (alkaline, Ni-MH) and 14500 Li-Ion!

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This look pretty.
I think most of us will hope that the pill isn’t glued.

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I have the JM20 and love it… not a barn burner but good runtime and plenty of brightness! I might have to try this little guy!

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That looks very nice. Hopefully the clip comes as nicely smoothed on the edges as the photo.

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Nice find, I bet it’s heavy for its size tho

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Yes, will be heavy, but do not expect it to be as heavy as the old C3 stainless.

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Convoy S2+, 6*7135, XM-L2 3D, 10 degree TIR, PilotDog lighted tailcap.
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Nice Smile

Yeah, I’m proud to have found it by myself Innocent

I’ll buy it this month I think so I’ll make a little review Smile

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I like the look of it. I think it could be a nice gift light. A gift to myself? Innocent

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Yeah, I’m proud to have found it by myself Innocent

I’ll buy it this month I think so I’ll make a little review Smile

Looking forward to it Big Smile

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Looks good! Though I think I’ll prefer function over form and get a Zanflare F2, unless a review shows that comparatively speaking, it is a bad idea because this one is AMAZING Big Smile

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Jack Kellar wrote:
Looks good! Though I think I’ll prefer function over form and get a Zanflare F2, unless a review shows that comparatively speaking, it is a bad idea because this one is AMAZING Big Smile

I don’t know for sure about the F2, but the F2S has a XP-G2 not XP-G3 as this light has. It is also a 2AA light, whereas this one uses single AA. And, this light is steel, compared to the anodized Aluminum F2S. The Zanflare F2S seems to me to be a very well-made light, but it isn’t directly comparable to this one in any way. What is it that you’re going for?

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DavidEF wrote:
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Looks good! Though I think I’ll prefer function over form and get a Zanflare F2, unless a review shows that comparatively speaking, it is a bad idea because this one is AMAZING Big Smile

I don’t know for sure about the F2, but the F2S has a XP-G2 not XP-G3 as this light has. It is also a 2AA light, whereas this one uses single AA. And, this light is steel, compared to the anodized Aluminum F2S. The Zanflare F2S seems to me to be a very well-made light, but it isn’t directly comparable to this one in any way. What is it that you’re going for?

Battery platform. What really matters to me is that it’s AA.

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Jack Kellar wrote:
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Jack Kellar wrote:
Looks good! Though I think I’ll prefer function over form and get a Zanflare F2, unless a review shows that comparatively speaking, it is a bad idea because this one is AMAZING Big Smile

I don’t know for sure about the F2, but the F2S has a XP-G2 not XP-G3 as this light has. It is also a 2AA light, whereas this one uses single AA. And, this light is steel, compared to the anodized Aluminum F2S. The Zanflare F2S seems to me to be a very well-made light, but it isn’t directly comparable to this one in any way. What is it that you’re going for?

Battery platform. What really matters to me is that it’s AA.

Well, in that case, the Zanflare is probably a better light for you. It takes 2xAA, so it will have better run time than this light. And it’s cheaper than this one by a couple USD. More-for-less! Cash

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I just ordered it.
What matters to me is : 1*AA, as slim as possible (17mm), good enough driver without strobe and a tail clicky

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Looks like a good host.
Did you order the other light you asked about, that’s even shorter & slimmer.

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MascaratumB wrote:
I got 3 on the way! 2 bought, 1 as an offer! They may arrive next week, I hope!
When I get them I can make a “sort” of review. Not that technical, of course Big Smile
But for the comments on their store, it seems to be a nice light!
A similar model is/was sold in Amazon, I guess, but this seems to be better and made by a “professional” company! The other lights on their store are quite nice too!

EDIT: I asked the seller if they take 14500 batteries, and the answer was “No”! However, a buyer mentioned he was using 14500 batteries without burning the driver! So…this may be a really nice deal, if one can use them with AA (alkaline, Ni-MH) and 14500 Li-Ion!


I was going to say something a couple days ago regarding the use of a 14500 cell, but I forgot. If you want a little more output without burning up the driver, you should try a LiFePO4 14500. Most of these boost drivers are actually rated for either 1S or 2S alkaline. So, the LiFePO4 max charge voltage of ~3.6V is close enough. Most of these boost drivers do happen to survive the 4.2V Li-Ion max charge as well, but that’s way outside the range and could cause problems.

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DavidEF wrote:
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Looks good! Though I think I’ll prefer function over form and get a Zanflare F2, unless a review shows that comparatively speaking, it is a bad idea because this one is AMAZING Big Smile

I don’t know for sure about the F2, but the F2S has a XP-G2 not XP-G3 as this light has. It is also a 2AA light, whereas this one uses single AA. And, this light is steel, compared to the anodized Aluminum F2S. The Zanflare F2S seems to me to be a very well-made light, but it isn’t directly comparable to this one in any way. What is it that you’re going for?

Battery platform. What really matters to me is that it’s AA.

Well, in that case, the Zanflare is probably a better light for you. It takes 2xAA, so it will have better run time than this light. And it’s cheaper than this one by a couple USD. More-for-less! Cash

Yep, getting to that conclusion Big Smile Should’ve tried to compare it to the Thrunite T10 as well (more fitting, as it’s the exact same 1xAA platform), but all is good in the hood.

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Looks like a good host.
Did you order the other light you asked about, that’s even shorter & slimmer.

Not yet, I fear that it would be more slippery but OTOH I prefer a reflector rather than a TIR…
But it doesn’t have a clip…although maybe the convoy clip would screw in the lanyard holes… could you check that ?

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X3 wrote:
I just ordered it. What matters to me is : 1*AA, as slim as possible (17mm), good enough driver without strobe and a tail clicky

Eheh, same reasons I ordered it Wink Using it with a 14500 can be a plus, but 1AA (Ni-MH) will be enough Wink
The quality seems really good! Thumbs Up

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I was going to say something a couple days ago regarding the use of a 14500 cell, but I forgot. If you want a little more output without burning up the driver, you should try a LiFePO4 14500. Most of these boost drivers are actually rated for either 1S or 2S alkaline. So, the LiFePO4 max charge voltage of ~3.6V is close enough. Most of these boost drivers do happen to survive the 4.2V Li-Ion max charge as well, but that’s way outside the range and could cause problems.

Hum, aren’t those a bit harder to find? Never had one of those… And normally I don’t seem them when searching for the 14500! Or maybe I just overlook them Flat Stare
The “funny” thing about this model (i don’t know if it is exactly this light) is that on the Amazon store where I found them, it is mentioned that they can be used with 14500 batteries. Being the Li-Ion the most common, I believe they refer to that type of battery…
I’ll just have to try them when I get them Big Smile
Thanks for your information about the LiFePO4 14500 Thumbs Up

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I was going to say something a couple days ago regarding the use of a 14500 cell, but I forgot. If you want a little more output without burning up the driver, you should try a LiFePO4 14500. Most of these boost drivers are actually rated for either 1S or 2S alkaline. So, the LiFePO4 max charge voltage of ~3.6V is close enough. Most of these boost drivers do happen to survive the 4.2V Li-Ion max charge as well, but that’s way outside the range and could cause problems.

Hum, aren’t those a bit harder to find? Never had one of those… And normally I don’t seem them when searching for the 14500! Or maybe I just overlook them Flat Stare
The “funny” thing about this model (i don’t know if it is exactly this light) is that on the Amazon store where I found them, it is mentioned that they can be used with 14500 batteries. Being the Li-Ion the most common, I believe they refer to that type of battery…
I’ll just have to try them when I get them Big Smile
Thanks for your information about the LiFePO4 14500 Thumbs Up


They are easy enough to find on eBay (at least for me). But, I failed to mention that they don’t hold as much energy, so run-time will suffer, even compared to Alkaline AA. Facepalm

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A bolt on clip isn’t really going to work but the clip from a Klarus Mi7 or DQG AA could work, may need epoxied in place.

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They are easy enough to find on eBay (at least for me). But, I failed to mention that they don’t hold as much energy, so run-time will suffer, even compared to Alkaline AA. Facepalm

Hum…despite liking the higher outputs, I guess that a longer runtime will may be a more important aspect for my use! Especially because I use these AA lights for longer periods of time, indoor or in places that don’t need to be light-blasted!
So Ni-MH and eventually the Li-Ion will gain some predominance!
Thanks again WinkThumbs Up

Btw, CRX, that’s a quite nice one!!
I have a SS 3xAAA / 18650 light on the way, and I guess that the clip tip will be a good one to fit that light Wink

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Yeah that’s one of my ludicrous builds, one of the smallest clicky AA lights you can get with an MT-G2 , one of the largest emitters we use Smile

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I received my flashlights today! I’ve done a small “review”, you can find it here Wink
I can’t give more “numbers” or technical aspects, but here you have a glimpse at a pretty light! Wink

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X3 wrote:
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Looks like a good host.
Did you order the other light you asked about, that’s even shorter & slimmer.

Not yet, I fear that it would be more slippery but OTOH I prefer a reflector rather than a TIR…
With an XP-G3 ?
I would strongly prefer a TIR with those modern tint shifting LEDs.

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5” parabolic reflector (for recoil light)

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Jerommel wrote:
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CRX wrote:
Looks like a good host.
Did you order the other light you asked about, that’s even shorter & slimmer.

Not yet, I fear that it would be more slippery but OTOH I prefer a reflector rather than a TIR…
With an XP-G3 ?
I would strongly prefer a TIR with those modern tint shifting LEDs.

Well, I swapped my Acebeam M10 XP-G3 (6500K) for a much warmer 2700K one and don’t see any tint shifting neither before or after.
I guess Acebeam designed the reflector specifically for this emitter.
That said, TIR are good for EDC (see Olight S series, all equipped with TIR) for close range use.

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I have this one

with XP-G3 /Nichia 219c option

any one want can PM me

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