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Lightest 18350 flashlight?

Anything out there that weighs 60g or less including battery?

 

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there aren’t a lot of choices, have you looked at the astrolux S1?

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review says“S1 weighs 76 grams with the 18650 tube and 55 grams in the 18350 form”
too heavy
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you may find better luck with 16340 lights, they really are about the same battery capacity as 18350.

in either case you will be stuck with a twisty switch probably.

i have one of these and it is pretty good, very small and cheap, decent light tint, super lightweight

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M2S7KYM/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpag...
out of stock at amazon, not sure how to find elsewhere, no brand given here

here it is on ebay

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/500LM-XPE-LED-Mini-Portable-Small-Flashlight-Torc...
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these are ok too

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/K03-Mini-LED-Flashlight-EDC-Compact-Pock...

review
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/54746


i think it will be impossible to find 60g including the battery
at least w 18350

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wle wrote:

you may find better luck with 16340 lights, they really are about the same battery capacity as 18350.


Thanks. I already have OTR M3 that takes 16340. I was hoping to find something similarly lightweight but using 18350 cell. You can find 18350 cells with about 1100 mAh capacity, so that’s quite a bit more than an 16340 cell.
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One of my favourite 18650 flashlight “Nitecore EC21” weight exactly 60g, but this sadly does not include battery.
Still great little flashlight, tho.

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Ah, title says 18350 not 18650. My bad.

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Emisar D4
With battery (and 18350 tube) a tad bit heavier than your limit, but I would think it’s the smallest/lightest (and brightest) in its class on the market.

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unlikely – an 18350 (the Efest that I just looked up, anyway) weighs 55g in itself, leaving only 5g for the light….

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raynman wrote:
unlikely - an 18350 (the Efest that I just looked up, anyway) weighs 55g in itself, leaving only 5g for the light....

 

Just weighed my aspire18350 1100, that test out continuously at 1223.

Its 25g total weight

 

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allcool wrote:

raynman wrote:
unlikely – an 18350 (the Efest that I just looked up, anyway) weighs 55g in itself, leaving only 5g for the light….

 


Just weighed my aspire18350 1100, that test out continuously at 1223.


Its 25g total weight


 

Aspire 1100mAh (unprotected) = 25g
Keeppower IMR750mAh (unprotected) = 21g

A light – in size – like the new Klarus Mi1C or the Olight SMini would be good to have that weight (+- 60g), but they only take 16340… Facepalm
Manufacturers should listen/read more of what is said here !…

EDIT: Even the Astrolux E01 has 60g (+ battery = 85/86g, just like a S2+ without clip)…

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The MecArmy PT16 is said to weigh 40 grams.
Add the 21 gram battery mentioned above…the total is 61.

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Tjohn wrote:
The MecArmy PT16 is said to weigh 40 grams. Add the 21 gram battery mentioned above…the total is 61.

Hum, the first light review I saw (that I can remember) on Youtube Blushing
But…according to this review it is heavier than that Shocked

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If the Weight and size is that important to you, i think it is inevitable that you mod an existing light.

I managed to enlarge the inner size of an eagletac D25c just as much to fit an 18350 inside.

This in combination with a fet driver and an xp-l2 made it into the smallest pocket rocket i own.
Including the battery its weight is no more than 48 grams.

In highest mode it heats up very quickly.

Without modding: don’t mind the extra weight.

Everything is moddable!

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My Skilhunt H03 shortened with Astrolux S41 18350 tube is 65g with Aspire 18350 battery.

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MascaratumB wrote:
Tjohn wrote:
The MecArmy PT16 is said to weigh 40 grams. Add the 21 gram battery mentioned above…the total is 61.

Hum, the first light review I saw (that I can remember) on Youtube Blushing
But…according to this review it is heavier than that Shocked


As you mention……
The weight is not 40 grams,
the correct weight is 52.
I was not anywhere near a scale, relying instead on the weight specified by Illumination Supply, where I purchased my light.
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Tjohn wrote:
The MecArmy PT16 is said to weigh 40 grams.
Add the 21 gram battery mentioned above…the total is 61.

Except that it runs on 16340, not 18350.
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RollerBoySE wrote:
Emisar D4
With battery (and 18350 tube) a tad bit heavier than your limit, but I would think it’s the smallest/lightest (and brightest) in its class on the market.

Any idea on the actual weight?

Thanks!

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On AliExpress you can find super cheap (<$2) skywolfeye flashlights that use 18650s, they have wall’s thin like soda cans, possibly fake or super old cree emitters, but I can’t really recommend them

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S2+ with shorty tube and TIR?

Anyone ever weigh that?

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Lightbringer wrote:
S2+ with shorty tube and TIR?

Anyone ever weigh that?


MascaratumB weighed it at 86g, I believe.
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Pete7874 wrote:
Tjohn wrote:
The MecArmy PT16 is said to weigh 40 grams.
Add the 21 gram battery mentioned above…the total is 61.

Except that it runs on 16340, not 18350.

It runs on both batteries.
If you look at the specifications and battery sizes, you will see 18350 is included, simply not mentioned in the title.
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Lightbringer wrote:
S2+ with shorty tube and TIR?

Anyone ever weigh that?

I did here: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1193366#comment-1193366

Although it has the reflector and not the TIR, that wouldn’t make the difference in this case.
The final weight with battery is above 86g (with a Keeppower battery, that is lighter than an Aspire), meaning that only the body of the light will weigh more than 60g. And that was the limit asked by Pete.

EDIT: BTW, has anyone ever seen this light/project ? I guess it ended in “nothing”, but this was a pretty light (and they had others) Love
It was from “helioslight”, and I guess this is not the actual “Heliuslight” (it has some posts and threads here on BLF)
http://www.spicytec.com/2013/04/helioslight-most-powerful-key-chain.html

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Pete7874 wrote:
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S2+ with shorty tube and TIR?

Anyone ever weigh that?


MascaratumB weighed it at 86g, I believe.

Hmm. Figured with plastic TIR vs Al reflector, might lighten it up a bit.

Use a lighter cell? Big Smile

Why the 60g limit, though?

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Pete7874 wrote:
RollerBoySE wrote:
Emisar D4
With battery (and 18350 tube) a tad bit heavier than your limit, but I would think it’s the smallest/lightest (and brightest) in its class on the market.

Any idea on the actual weight?

Thanks!

Sorry, I have no scale available.
With 18650 tube it’s 66 grams (+ cell).

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Why the 60g limit, though?

Anything more than this, and it becomes impractical when attached to a cap visor for extended walking, in my experience. And I would like more runtime than what a typical 16340 cell allows. 2 hours of runtime at about 300 lumen output would be nice.

I don’t want to use a head strap.

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maybe try clipping a raw 18350 to the hat, something tells me the cell alone may also be too heavy..

i don;t think i would like anything over 30 grams for that

maybe you have a different kind of hat

there are also ‘headlamps’, some of them might be adaptable to cap wear
they may, but not always, have batteries via wire, making the head part lighter but adding the annoyance of a wire

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Pete7874 wrote:
RollerBoySE wrote:
Emisar D4
With battery (and 18350 tube) a tad bit heavier than your limit, but I would think it’s the smallest/lightest (and brightest) in its class on the market.

Any idea on the actual weight?

Thanks!

56.2g with 18350 tube. 69.1g with 18650 tube.

grey 18350 tube 14.28g

Slight weight variations in my different emitter models and tubes, batteries.
Not sure what the lightest battery would be. Most are listed with ‘in the ballpark’ weights in their specs.

If you use a shorter brim hat, the extra 19g over your spec of 60g weight wont be so bad..? So,,, don’t be a flat brimmer.. lol

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allcool wrote:
56.2g with 18350 tube. 69.1g with 18650 tube.

grey 18350 tube 14.28g

Slight weight variations in my different emitter models and tubes, batteries.
Not sure what the lightest battery would be. Most are listed with ‘in the ballpark’ weights in their specs.


Thanks. Based on what was posted above, Aspire 18350 weighs 25g, so that means a D4 with 18350 battery would come in at 81g.

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If you use a shorter brim hat, the extra 19g over your spec of 60g weight wont be so bad..? So,,, don’t be a flat brimmer.. lol

LOL!
Interesting suggestion though. I wasn’t aware that baseball caps come with longer and shorter visors. I’ll have to look into this.

As for the D4 specifically, my main issue with it is the ramping UI. I’d much prefer something that has preset output levels, so that you can gauge battery runtime better.

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56.2g with 18350 tube. 69.1g with 18650 tube.

grey 18350 tube 14.28g

Slight weight variations in my different emitter models and tubes, batteries.
Not sure what the lightest battery would be. Most are listed with ‘in the ballpark’ weights in their specs.


Thanks. Based on what was posted above, Aspire 18350 weighs 25g, so that means a D4 with 18350 battery would come in at 81g.

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If you use a shorter brim hat, the extra 19g over your spec of 60g weight wont be so bad..? So,,, don’t be a flat brimmer.. lol

LOL!
Interesting suggestion though. I wasn’t aware that baseball caps come with longer and shorter visors. I’ll have to look into this.

Yes, my aspire is 25, or more precisely, 24.8. My lightest 18350 is 23g… so that puts it at 79g with my lightest 18350

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Jaxman E2L with 18350 tube + Aspire 18350-cell:

More than 60 gr but still pretty lightweight.

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allcool, how long is the brim on that hat? I just ordered a hat with a 2” brim to try. I’m pretty sure my current hat has a longer brim, but I’m out of town, so I can’t verify.

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allcool, how long is the brim on that hat? I just ordered a hat with a 2” brim to try. I’m pretty sure my current hat has a longer brim, but I’m out of town, so I can’t verify.

my brim might be longer then yours,,, but by no means is it flat… lol

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